Vaccines

I had my first dose on Thursday (Pfizer) and other than feeling tired that day I had no side effects. My arm was sore on Friday but it is 90% gone today.

I would JUMP at the chance to get a vaccine, especially pfizer or moderna. But I'm in the EU which means I have to wait months still.
Folks in the US are very very privileged with regards to covid vaccines.

I've had tons of other vaccines and none of them had any impact on my UC. Can't see why covid should be different.

Sure, there's a thread further down the page where you can read about direct experiences (i think it's called "pfizer or moderna" or similar)

I've not heard of anyone flaring from covid vaccine, or any other vaccine, and don't see why they should.

VCcolitistoiletrunner said...
My GP thinks because I was on Budesonide, that’s why my symptoms were mild

According to researchers at the University of Oxford , your GP might be right.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-02-09-common-asthma-treatment-reduces-need-hospitalisation-covid-19-patients-study
Common asthma treatment reduces need for hospitalisation in COVID-19 patients, study suggests

https://www.timesofisrael.com/common-asthma-drug-can-reduce-covid-hospitalizations-by-90-study/
Inhaling the steroid budesonide reduced by 90 percent the need for urgent care or hospitalization, when compared with the use of the usual treatment for virus patients, the Reuters news agency reported Tuesday, citing the Oxford experts.

The theory, with steroids your immune system is tamped down. Really bad outcomes with Covid have been from cytokine storms, in other words, hyper immune response, which we already deal with our immune systems attacking our body. My wife, who also had it back in December, was treated with steroids. I intend to get vaccinated, hoping in the next couple months to hear more about people like us, and how the vaccine interacts with the disease and the efficacy.

IamCurious said...
Just curious, but why get vaccinated against Covid if you may already have antibodies against the virus?

Because there have been cases of people getting Covid twice. Also, the level of antibodies after having Covid apparently differs among people. Because the virus is so new, they honestly don't know yet how long antibodies last or what level of protection they offer, especially against new variants.

Got Covid last March 25th was very sick. Almost got put on ventilator . Was tested in Nov -no Covid and anti bodies were 2.8 which I was told was a high count. Tested 2 weeks ago and no Covid and anti bodies were 1.7. 1.4 is considered normal/average. Both test were beginning of month. So in 4 months i went down 1.1. I'm 62yo. Very good shape. 6'5-225. No spleen. No colon. Looking to get vaccine sooner then later

Post Edited (3timechamp) : 3/7/2021 2:05:13 PM (GMT-7)

I got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine yesterday. I had a slight headache for a few hours and a sore arm yesterday. Today my arm was less sore, but the headache came back. I took two Tylenol and the headache went away.

I fretted over whether to get the Moderna/Pfizer vaccine or wait for the Johnson & Johnson, which was available here this coming weekend. Kind of drove myself a little crazy over it. I finally decided that they all have their pluses and minuses, and we just don't know enough about any of them to make an informed decision on which is "best." So it's a bit of a crap shoot. However, we KNOW that Covid can be deadly or long-term debilitating (I have a good friend who is a "long hauler" with still severe repercussions after having Covid last March). So I ended up taking the first available appointment and decided to accept whichever one they gave me.

I'm still worried about having a bad reaction to the vaccine, especially after the second shot. It scares me. But I have pretty severe health anxiety, so I'm always worrying about that!

In the other thread about the 2 vaccines, some members are on Imuran, maybe ask your question in that thread. Drs are telling us it's best to get the shots than run the risk of getting the virus without some protection.

fyi:
The new BCG vaccine might be available in July. It may be a safer alternative to the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna which were approved thru an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).
But we will know more after we see the results of a large-group placebo vs inoculum study taking place in Canada .

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/03/no_author/if-you-absolutely-must-vaccinate-against-covid-19-out-of-fear-or-coercion-hold-out-for-this-already-proven-vaccine/

These same researchers reveal there already is a proven safe and effective vaccine that protects against COVID-19 via activation of T-cells – – the Bacille Calmette-Guerin (BCG) vaccine for another infectious lung disease — tuberculosis.  It is derived from a mycobacterium (mycobacterium bovis) found in cattle. It is a “live” but attenuated bacterium.

Evidence for the BCG vaccine to quell COVID-19 infections is compelling.

A study published in November of 2020 confirms that BCG vaccine protects health care workers from COVID-19 infection. Healthcare workers previously inoculated with BCG vaccine experienced a marked decrease in COVID-19 infection.

Population studies reveal the potential of BCG vaccination. Epidemiologists project a 37% decrease in COVID-19 mortality between East Germany which was vaccinated with BCG vaccine and not West Germany.

Statisticians claim there would have been 80% fewer COVID-19 deaths in the US by March 29, 2020 had the country employed mandatory BCG vaccination since 2000.

BCG vaccine is so safe it is approved for use with neonates, children and adults for almost 100 years.

Post Edited (IamCurious) : 3/24/2021 2:32:14 PM (GMT-6)

There have been some trials looking at whether the BCG/TB vaccine can protect against covid, the results are not promising, see here:
https://www.umcutrecht.nl/nl/over-ons/nieuws/pers/tuberculosis-vaccine-does-not-protect-vulnerable-elderly-people-against-covid-19
The conclusion is clear: the BCG vaccine does not offer vulnerable elderly people protection against COVID-19. While disappointing, it is important to share the preliminary data immediately, especially during the ongoing pandemic. The BCG-PRIME study will be continued to investigate whether BCG vaccination protects against serious respiratory infections and/or severe forms of COVID-19

IamCurious said...
fyi:
The new BCG vaccine might be available in July. It may be a safer alternative to the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna which were approved thru an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).
But we will know more after we see the results of a large-group placebo vs inoculum study taking place in Canada .

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/03/no_author/if-you-absolutely-must-vaccinate-against-covid-19-out-of-fear-or-coercion-hold-out-for-this-already-proven-vaccine/

These same researchers reveal there already is a proven safe and effective vaccine that protects against COVID-19 via activation of T-cells – – the Bacille Calmette-Guerin (BCG) vaccine for another infectious lung disease — tuberculosis.  It is derived from a mycobacterium (mycobacterium bovis) found in cattle. It is a “live” but attenuated bacterium.

Evidence for the BCG vaccine to quell COVID-19 infections is compelling.

A study published in November of 2020 confirms that BCG vaccine protects health care workers from COVID-19 infection. Healthcare workers previously inoculated with BCG vaccine experienced a marked decrease in COVID-19 infection.

Population studies reveal the potential of BCG vaccination. Epidemiologists project a 37% decrease in COVID-19 mortality between East Germany which was vaccinated with BCG vaccine and not West Germany.

Statisticians claim there would have been 80% fewer COVID-19 deaths in the US by March 29, 2020 had the country employed mandatory BCG vaccination since 2000.

BCG vaccine is so safe it is approved for use with neonates, children and adults for almost 100 years.

I'm truly impressed at your ability to dredge up bullsh!t from the deepest, darkest depths of the internet.