VanJordan said...
CCinPA said...
It's not very scientific to want to limit discussion of current treatments to only what you want to talk about. I hope that Pravda wasn't that close minded when he discovered his theory.
This is a personal attack and I don't appreciate it. My kind request for people to stay on topic has nothing to do with if one is scientific or not. Coming here to persuade people who are looking into alternative methods to go back to methods that aren't working is inappropriate and frankly tone deaf. You're here to bait me into a fight like you did in other threads with personal insults.
It's not closed minded to request that people stay on topic, when there are thousands of other threads on HW talking about
conventional treatments. I'm not allowed to tell my personal story about
how conventional medicine failed but an alternative method worked without the usual suspects showing up to accuse me of being closed minded. I'm allowed to talk about
the failures of conventional medicine, as I see them. I also said in many places in this thread that people should do the treatments that work best for them. Since this thread is about
an alternative approach, obviously we are going to focus on that to the preclusion of modern meds.
The vanguard on this forum really needs to back off and let people talk freely. Modern medicine isn't curing UC, so conversations like this thread are super important to give people real hope. If we were sitting at a table talking about
Dr. Pravda's technique and you showed up to completely change the topic back to conventional medicine, we would all find you rude. It's no different on this forum. Please let people talk without feeling the need to defend your chosen treatment. There are thousands of other threads that support your chosen treatment.
Modern medicine and its doctors failed me. I won't erase my story because you personally feel threatened, sorry.
Now... if you want to talk about
the merits/demerits of Pravda's theory, that would be where the real scientific discussion is. Others have posted doubts on that basis and I really enjoy engaging with them. If you're here to say this thread is closed minded or judge its participants, then I won't engage with you. Have a nice day!
Please quote the post where I was trying to persuade someone to go back to treatments that failed them. I commented on meds when others brought them up. You keep saying those who have doubts are being close minded -- please reread our posts. I think all of us keep saying that if alternatives work for you then to stay with them and we wish you the best. My only issue is that you keep saying this is the definitive answer for UC and that once the paper comes out it will prove that. Please look up what a peer reviewed paper really means ... it is not 100% absolute proof of anything.
People have brought up valid questions and have tried being nice to you for the most part, but instead of engaging in civil conversation and discussing what they bring up you attack and tell us to stay out of your thread and not comment. The defensiveness you are displaying is not productive and is what is creating discord. I will continue to comment when I have something to say whether you like it or not.
For those who are following the Van Jordan/Pravda protocol ... I hope that it works for you and you are well for many years to come. If it doesn't work, don't think of it as a failure if you need to use meds to be well.