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Posted 10/31/2023 2:31 PM (GMT 0)
Hi. I’ve had UC since 2016 and currently I’m taking 8 week interval injections of Stelara. Doing ok, not great.
But that’s another topic for another day.

Here’s why I started this thread…

Went to the dentist this morning because I thought I had a tooth going bad. Turns out he thinks it’s a gum infection. That the tooth does not need a root canal. No pain, but I feel some swelling in my gum line above several teeth.

Anyway…he Gave me a prescription for Amox-Clav 500-125 MG antibiotic. Said to take that 3 times a day, but if my stomach acts up it’s ok to do 2x a day. Gave me enough for a week.

I seem to remember hearing or reading that “we” should always take a probiotic if we have to go on an antibiotic?

Currently I do not take a probiotic.

Thoughts?

Post Edited (Rusty Barr) : 10/31/2023 8:44:02 AM (GMT-8)

Posted 10/31/2023 2:38 PM (GMT 0)
Rusty, whenever I am put on an antibiotic my dr has me take Florastor, it's an OTC probiotic. As long as I take this I never have any issues. Even when I have been put in the hospital for unrelated problems requiring an antibiotic this is always given to me.

I hope things go well for you.
Posted 10/31/2023 3:35 PM (GMT 0)
Rusty,

I always take a probiotic plus the SCD diet yogurt and I double it when taking antibiotics..(My doctors recommend it also). Knock on wood... not too many problems if I do that. It does make a difference but doesn't negate the nausea from the pills... and sometimes I will still have a little thinner output but that usually stops 2 to 5 days after I stop antibiotics.

My friend didn't do either and she ended up with a yeast infection and then thrush after antibiotics. She hasn't suffered from either of those since she started doing the yogurt and the probiotics...

The issue is... sometimes when you start a probiotic or the SCD yogurt it can cause some of the issues we try to avoid...a little nausea, thinner output.... But for me I'd rather be safer from the yeast infections and thrush.

Clo
Posted 10/31/2023 4:53 PM (GMT 0)

straydog said...
Rusty, whenever I am put on an antibiotic my dr has me take Florastor, it's an OTC probiotic. As long as I take this I never have any issues. Even when I have been put in the hospital for unrelated problems requiring an antibiotic this is always given to me.

I hope things go well for you.

Milk and me? We don’t get along.

It says online that if you have trouble with milk don’t take florastor

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Posted 10/31/2023 4:55 PM (GMT 0)

clo2014 said...
Rusty,

I always take a probiotic plus the SCD diet yogurt and I double it when taking antibiotics..(My doctors recommend it also). Knock on wood... not too many problems if I do that. It does make a difference but doesn't negate the nausea from the pills... and sometimes I will still have a little thinner output but that usually stops 2 to 5 days after I stop antibiotics.

My friend didn't do either and she ended up with a yeast infection and then thrush after antibiotics. She hasn't suffered from either of those since she started doing the yogurt and the probiotics...

The issue is... sometimes when you start a probiotic or the SCD yogurt it can cause some of the issues we try to avoid...a little nausea, thinner output.... But for me I'd rather be safer from the yeast infections and thrush.

Clo

What brand of OTC (can get at walmart) Probiotic has worked well for you?
Posted 10/31/2023 4:59 PM (GMT 0)
I believe VSL#3 is lactose free... but it is strong stuff, and expensive.
Posted 10/31/2023 5:31 PM (GMT 0)
I use what's in my signature, but take them both when on abx. I take probiotics at bedtime an hour or more after any meds. I had an infection in my gum and bone from a blown root... and was on 2 courses of Clavulin. I had to have it pulled...and then do the process of an implant, which then required another course.
Any abx I request a 2x daily regimen rather than 3.

q
Posted 11/1/2023 12:15 AM (GMT 0)
Rusty,

On probiotics...
I take daily Renew Life from Walmart 30 billion CFU. It's the only one that doesn't make me feel nauseous. (My doctors didn't know if it would actually help me but for some reason it does...even though it is a less expensive brand. When I am going thru heavy duty antibiotics and I start seeing hints of yeast infections I get VSL also. It's very expensive. I've used it as an extra every other day when I start to have yeast infections break out while take antibiotics. (Any moist skin on skin contact is where I get itchy then break out)

I have gotten by several times with just doubling the Renew dosage to two capsules a day as long as I follow that up with SCD yogurt...

I can't drink milk.... I usually use almond milk... the idea of whole milk yogurt made me want to run out the door cause my butt was gonna be on fire--literally--and I was gonna be heaving.... BUT the SCD yogurt from whole milk... it "ferments" on the counter 24 to 48 hours which reduces the lactose enough that even I can tolerate it. So if you can make it and utilize it I recommend it.

I've been unable to Forester and many of the other probiotics also.

I'm thinking of you and hoping it goes well.

Clo

P. S. When my gums were infected my infectious disease doctor/dentist also had me brush with salt, rinse with mouthwash, then wait 10 to 15 minutes and rinse with water, swish with a very light hydrogen peroxide rinse... 1/4 C water and 1/4 C 3 per ent hydrogen peroxide swished for 30 seconds...

Post Edited (clo2014) : 10/31/2023 4:21:40 PM (GMT-8)

Posted 11/2/2023 1:49 PM (GMT 0)
I always take Culturelle. I have done so much research over the years and Culturelle and Florastor can survive antibiotics while you are on them but the other strains die so it is a waste of money. Best to take a more expensive one after you are done the antibiotics. I cannot tolerate Florastor at all (gives me more diarrhea) so I avoid it.
Posted 11/9/2023 12:57 AM (GMT 0)
Iam currently studying this course on IBD for dietitians (Iam a dietitian), and they say that https://usprobioticguide.com
is a good source of info on which probiotics are effective and what for. Dietitians use it to guide their product recommendations.

And the main one for IBD is Visbiome. It has the most research behind it.

Florastor is also good as it is a yeast and it won’t be killed by antibiotics so it’s a good one to take if you are on antibiotics.
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