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Posted 7/24/2009 4:10 PM (GMT 0)
hi i'm here in the uk and beginining to worry about swine flu as i'm on imuran,and working with kids quite likely to get it this winter,any thoughts
Posted 7/24/2009 6:21 PM (GMT 0)
i think the likelihood of getting any flu or cold virus (there are at least a hundred of each possibly) by the same means is just as high....just depends on who is coughing/sneezing in your direction I would think.

What I find interesting is how people now will quit shaking hands and become a "don't touch me" society because of one flu....where others can kill as equally.

q
Posted 7/24/2009 6:32 PM (GMT 0)
     A bit of a concern, but not overwhelmingly so.  Maybe if I were you and worked with kids, I would be moreso.  I'm on 100 mgm of 6MP.  I also have two grandkids and although I love them dearly stay away from them when they have colds.  I wash my hands almost compulsively.

     Funny Heather stated about not shaking hands, etc.   For awhile they stopped the distribution of wine in our church ( Roman Catholic).  I never received it anyway because I always disagreed with drinking from the same chalice.  Thought it very, very unsanitary.  Wiping the outer edge of the chalice just didn't cut it with me....sorry Pope.  Thought they could invest in individual cups like the Protestants..oh well.  They did stop shaking hands there for awhile too, but notice on Sunday people did shake hands as a sign of peace.

     I do think, come fall, people will be more on the alert of this Swine Flu.

Posted 7/24/2009 6:39 PM (GMT 0)
I agree that this has been the eye opener for people to get with the program of personal hygeine....it takes a while.   It seems there may be something more than the information that's out there.

I do tend to get colds which ticks me off because I am so careful. But, I do handle money, touch doors and eat in restaurants, and probably touch my mouth on occasion without thought.

One thing that I do try to avoid is the cashier who is coughing and wiping her/his nose, or when someone is coughing or sneezing near me in a store, I just hold my breath and high-tail it out of the area.

I'll never know what I've avoided, but I'm shocked when I do get sick unless I have been around someone (or my husband) who's picked up something.

From the hand sanitisation and pure avoidance, it's possible we will create more superbugs of other stuff.....but it's part of evolution...too bad we take longer to evolve than the bugs/viruses/bacteria out there.

I hope they can find a vaccination for the swine flu at least to help us get some immunisation against it....

quincy

Posted 7/24/2009 6:52 PM (GMT 0)
But isn't swine flu just the same as any other flu really?! Seems like the medias made a massive deal out of it because its a new strain of flu.

I'm also on Azathioprine so I'm particularly trying to avoid any types of cold or flu especially as my WBC count has started to drop. However I've had a sore throat/cough coming for about 10 days and its arrived today...I'm pretty sure its just a common cough/cold though as I feel no flu symptoms.

 

Posted 7/24/2009 7:30 PM (GMT 0)

quincy said...
I hope they can find a vaccination for the swine flu at least to help us get some immunisation against it....



quincy

I contacted the hospital nearby that is recruiting to test the vaccine, but I can't get a straight answer on the ingredients. Very curious what those will be in all the different shots, because there are several different companies rushing to get it out. It's interesting to watch the 60 minutes broadcast on youtube of what happened last time the swine flu came through.
Posted 7/25/2009 2:32 AM (GMT 0)

qwerty1 said...
But isn't swine flu just the same as any other flu really?! Seems like the medias made a massive deal out of it because its a new strain of flu.

Actually, based on statistics from this past year, the swine flu was LESS deadly than a typical flu, except in Mexico. The reason the death rate was so much higher in Mexico is still unknown AFAIK.
Posted 7/25/2009 7:37 AM (GMT 0)
I think because it's "newer" with less mutations or less people affected previously with "some" immunisation against i. It's the new kid on the block and not established, so its effect is more positive (like being blindsided) than other flus which many of us has been exposed to and have some immunisation.

Qwerty...you'd know if you had the flu...you'd have a high fever and shivering almost uncontrollably...plus feel like there's an elephant sitting on each of your joints. Even thinking or breathing hurts...it's a horrific thing which I've only had a few times in my lifetime....I remember each of them vividly.

The positives are that people are taking note to change policies regarding "sharing"...I guess this is what's waking everyone up. Interesting because SARS didn't seem to affect change as this has.

q
Posted 7/25/2009 7:38 AM (GMT 0)
I haven't checked out the video from the first swine flu Dr. A....what year was that?? because I was sure there was a swine flu in the '70s.

q
Posted 7/25/2009 8:20 AM (GMT 0)
Yer I think I remember, hearing something about some older people having some immunity I think it was people over 50.There is of course a school of thought, that says it would be better to get it sooner rather than later as infection spreads the potentiality of the virus to mutate and get much stronger increases,this is what happened with the spanish flu I think.My GI did'nt have much to offer on the subject only that he wanted to get it as soon as possilbe so he could be frontline in the hospital staff,dealing with it this winter,he'd just got a new handbook a tomb,on procedures,not to be alarmist but people with impaired immunity are at risk from complications,also I just have to say I love my GI,bye for now Anna
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Posted 7/25/2009 3:12 PM (GMT 0)

quincy said...
I haven't checked out the video from the first swine flu Dr. A....what year was that?? because I was sure there was a swine flu in the '70s.

q

It's news reports following the one in 1976.
Posted 7/25/2009 5:24 PM (GMT 0)

quincy said...
Qwerty...you'd know if you had the flu...you'd have a high fever and shivering almost uncontrollably...plus feel like there's an elephant sitting on each of your joints. Even thinking or breathing hurts...it's a horrific thing which I've only had a few times in my lifetime....I remember each of them vividly.

quincy - everyone reacts to the flu differently. Some people have very mild symptoms, similar to a cold. Most people have fever and some degree of joint pain. The degree of symptoms you describe are actually less common - most people don't describe the flu as being "horrific".
Posted 7/25/2009 6:02 PM (GMT 0)
     I remember being pregnant with my second daughter when the Swine Flu was going around.  My OB/GYN doctor wanted me to get the vaccine.  Luckily, I worked for an Internist who was dead set against my receiving the vaccine as he said he wasn't satisfied with the safety of it, especially for pregnant women.  So, I decided NOT to get the vaccine.  I know of one fatality and one other person who developed the Guilliame/Barr syndrome.

     I am now almost 63 yrs old...maybe I do have natural immunity to it....hope so.

Posted 7/25/2009 7:55 PM (GMT 0)
LuckyLindy...I agree that some don't get severe symptoms, but I can't see it being a "non" symptom experience unless one has some immunity to whatever it is they have at the time.

I don't react well to colds either, and yes, some colds can be nothing to some, horrible to others.    I'd take a cold over the flu.... neither would be preferable, however.

I hope I never have a flu again because they were all horrific experiences for me.

q

Posted 7/25/2009 8:04 PM (GMT 0)
Dr. A.....ah right, I was sure the swine flu happened in the '70s....that year wasn't a good one for me and I did have a flu in '77..very sick. I'm sure it wasn't the swine flu, tho, but I wsn't checked for it.

Interestingly, that was when the first cold sore I ever had happened. The next one was when I had the flu in 1999....weird connection.

I'll check out the video.

q
Posted 7/26/2009 2:47 AM (GMT 0)
My daughter and I might have gotten the swine flu about three weeks ago. It lasted a little more than a week. We had the following symptoms:

Stuffy nose that turned into a sinus infection.
Sneezing and coughing.
Chest congestion.
Extreme tiredness.
Loss of appetite.
Chills.
Extreme sore throat.
Headache.

My daughter's friend and her friend's dad got the swine flu right before us. A friend of mine said she had pneumonia right before and during the time I had the flu. My daughter and I never went to the doctors. We were too tired to go. So we don't know for sure whether it was the swine flu or just the flu, but I can't think of any other flue that is going around right now.
Posted 7/26/2009 2:49 AM (GMT 0)
I'm on Imuno suppressants, and I've been on Imuran. I also work with children. I've been fine swine flu wise.
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