Fecal Transplant - I took the plunge! PART III

The coffee enemas are part of the Gerson Cancer therapy (not designed for UC). The theory is that our bodies are constantly breaking down cancer cells, virus cells, dead cells, bacteria, impurities, poisons, contaminants, etc, and flushing them out of our systems through the liver, kidneys and lymph systems. According to the theory, our bodies could cure themselves of cancer if we could just flush the cancer cells out fast enough. But typically we can't. So part of the Gerson Therapy involves kicking this elimination system into overdrive. Coffee enemas supposedly trick to liver into dumping all its collected waste material quickly so it can gather up a whole new batch. Cancer patients (along with a diet, supplements, and juicing plan) are supposed to do the coffee enemas 6 or 8 times a day. I have only done it once or twice a day as they are very time consuming (and I don't have cancer).

Again, I don't know if they actually help. I have a friend, who has a friend, who supposedly cured himself of stage 4 cancer this way. I;m working on tracking him down so I can talk to him personally.

I figured, if UC has anything to do with a proliferation of a harmful bacteria, then an excellerated detox program like this might help. But it appears I got more benefit from the diet and juicing than the coffee enemas.

I'm not sure. I don't know anything about your ages, or health history.

I also don't know what the SCD diet is. What is it? I'm interested and would like to know.

You could ready to Brorody article as see what all they test donors for. I know they test for HIV, syphlis, parasites, cancers... but I'm sure there's more stuff.

Of course, I also know first hand how hard it is to ask someone to donate. It not only takes a VERY close relationship, but it is also WAY easier if you live together. My girlfriend is donating for me and we don't live together, and it's jsut not that easy.

Clearly, his intestinal flora is clearly healthier than yours. Probably the best thing you could do is read the article. You can find it at www.cdd.com.au under "publications", or go to it directly at http://www.cdd.com.au/pdf/publications/paper17.pdf

Read up on what they test donors for and talk to your donor at length about his medical history and family medical history to see if he might be "at risk" for something (like a high risk of colon cancer due to a parent or grandparent having had it). If you feel safe... do it. If you're unsure, find a way to get him tested. I remember seeing posts about testing in the history of this topic, but I don't remember where. Or ask folks here about testing and how they got it done.

I certainly understand how difficult some of this is (and how risky) since most doctors don't want to risk their licenses, insurance companies don't cover this, and we (you and me) are not medical experts. I even considered going to Australia to have this done by Borody himself, but I don't have 10,000 to 15,000 dollars, or even credit availability to work with.

keep us posted please! I'm cheering for you!

Hey Poo Bare: Here's the post I added yesterday about my husband:
Hey guys! I am strongly considering doing home FT! I want to use my husband as a donor! He has been on the SCD diet with me for just over a week. I was wondering if yall thought he would be a good donor.

He hasnt taken any antibiotics in a couple of years and is rarely sick. He has no known health history other than high triglycerides.
Before the diet, he thinks he was lactose intolerant b/c of gas and very soft stools, occasional diarrhea. Even before the diet he had anywhere from 1-3 regular BM's a day and Since he has been on the diet he has normal BM's everyday.

I found a lab near my home so my husband and I are both having our stool tested for those things listed by Dr Borody assuming the lab can test for all of those.

The SCD diet was established several years ago by an MD. The lady who helped write the book has/had Crohns and used this diet to virtually eliminate all of her symptoms. The book is called "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" and can be found on Amazon. THere is also a separate thread on SCD.
It basically believes that many chronic diseases i.e. Crohns, UC, autism, IBS etc are linked to the gut. The diet cuts out all sugars, gluten and most dairy. It states that complex sugars feed the bad bacteria in our gut and the only way to restore balance is to starve those bacteria. I have been on it for about 1.5 weeks and was seeing some results at the beginning but thin I may have added too many new foods at once. It has rave reviews tho so check it out.


How did the 2nd FT go? Are your symptoms improving? It sounds like you are already eating a diet with a good amount of fiber...fruits and veggies have a lot of fiber in them.

You got it!  Poop on a plate is the way to go.  My donor actually used a large measuring bowl with a handle which he could hold under his butt while he sat on the toilet...The things we do!!

I've seen some improvement !

I did my second FT yesterday and this morning half of my BM was solid (the second half, not so much). But still! That's an improvement! I will hopefully be doing a third FT later today.

I am seriously considering doing this with my daughter as I am not willing to move up the medical chain and this looks like the most promising option. FYI Jini Patel has just put up a very interesting pod cast on her wellness circle site (which you have to pay for). You can buy just the podcast on her website shop. It's with the RN who helped develop the HPI protocol with Dr. Borody. In my opinion it's well worth the money to read this. I believe she does consultations too if anyone wants guidance while trying this out.
Poo Bare,
I would think most people who tried FT were flaring and so probably bleeding as well. And yes you should be off abx (I would think and I think that's what Dr. Borody says in his article) because otherwise you're killing what you're trying to implant. Keep updating us, it's very useful!

Niro, I think it's worth it. She talks about what they did originally and what Dr. Borody does now (they no longer work together). I'm not sure how much is "new" but still worth $10 if you're considering it IMHO. Also, yes, I believe they've had success with considerably more than 6 people. If you go on the Probiotic institute website, I believe the figure is 50% for UC (though I don't know if this means long term remission or what). IMO, I'd rather give my kid a poop enema a few times a year than remicade but everyone is different. Some people apparently find this too disgusting to try? My concern is that it's impossible to screen for everything and I am dealing with a small child.

I think the majority of people probably have bleeding ulcers when they try this treatment - its not generally something that people with mild symptoms are really interested in!! However Borody does admit that the treatment works best on a colon that is less inflamed.

My understanding is that the 5ASA's also have some anti-bacterial properties, and if I remember correctly, I did read somewhere that Borody recommended not taking them while doing the FT's.  Not 100% sure on that though...

I also remember reading that the institute in Australia has treated over 1000 patients, and killcolitis is right about the success rate.  I did the home protocol when I was pregnant, and whilst I had to continue with 'pulse treatments' as mentioned somewhere (on another thread I think), it did make my symptoms completely manageable without any other medication.

Best of luck to everyone having a go at this - it was definitely worth it for me.  

Poo bare thats awesome! I am awaiting our stool results but also just found out I am pregnant so dont know if I should try the FT's while pregnant! ???

It amazes me that more doctors in the US don't recommend this but I guess they worry about the liabilities. I am inclined to try the VSL # 3 via enema to see how that works. How much should I use and how often?

I am going to have this thread locked due to length, so please continue your posts on here:

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=1865200

Thank you!