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Posted 1/3/2010 6:01 PM (GMT 0)
  When I eat or drink anything with carrageenenan in it I have a severe flair.

   Does anyone else have this reaction from carrageenan?

Posted 1/3/2010 6:19 PM (GMT 0)
and what do you eat it in specifically?

The only think I'd eat it in is ice cream and I'm lactose intolerant so I'd expect some discomfort.

No, it doesn't cause me to flare....no food/additives cause me to flare.
Discomfort such as gas or increased bms based on amount I've eaten...yes, flare...NO.

q
Posted 1/3/2010 6:26 PM (GMT 0)
Yes True,

Carageenan inflames you intestines like hell...Carageenan is almost in all the products...

Your toothpaste, yoghurt, cream, Soy Ice Cream, Regular Icream, Almond Milk, Soy Milks, Choclates, All the liquid products in the grocery shelf has carageenan.

After i found that carageenan in the main culprit...I totally stopped it. Feeling better than before. minimised bloating, minimized pain. Hope my intestines are healing itself, after stopping it.

Read this article about carageena, written by a phd.

http://raypeat.com/articles/nutrition/carrageenan.shtml
Posted 1/3/2010 6:29 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't eaten my toothpaste in a long while, and the others you've mentioned are all lactose containing products.

I'm seeing spam bombardment based on Bael's other posts in IBS forum.

q
Posted 1/3/2010 7:23 PM (GMT 0)
I know a couple of people have posted in the past about carrageenan bothering them as well (maybe it was Old Hat or Princesa?).
Posted 1/3/2010 7:37 PM (GMT 0)
First bad experence with carrageenan was slim fast then land-o-lakes non fat creamer.

Did some research and found that alot of people have a bad reaction from foods/drinks containing carrageenan.

Posted 1/3/2010 7:55 PM (GMT 0)

quincy said...
I haven't eaten my toothpaste in a long while, and the others you've mentioned are all lactose containing products.

I'm seeing spam bombardment based on Bael's other posts in IBS forum.

q

Hey this is a honest sharing of one own's agony....My same post in IBS was about inflammed gut... and now the same quesiton about CARAGEENAN.

What you expect me to answer ... I can share what i know and believe... And I will learn from other what they say..

are you sure the toothpaste when you brush your teeth are not absorbed through you mouth...

Since when SOYMILK, ALMOND MILK CONTAINS LACTOSE FOR YOU...

They have the highest content of CARAGEENAN...

Posted 1/3/2010 8:37 PM (GMT 0)
I believe it's a thickening/gelling agent used in many processed foods. Like a lot of other additives, it's been linked with cancer. I doubt whether it's anywhere near as bad a carcinogenic as the burnt fat from a bbq mind.
Posted 1/3/2010 8:48 PM (GMT 0)
Not all, but many products like soy milk, ice cream, pudding, etc use it. It can be a a problem for your intestines from what I read. I used to drink lots of soymilk that had carrageenan in it, now I wonder if possibly it could had something to do with my getting colitis, maybe not, but I do avoid products with it now, and I would recommend people watch out for it if you have bowel problems. They say it is natural because it comes from a type of seaweed but that doesn't mean it is good for you.
Posted 1/4/2010 12:18 AM (GMT 0)
Alot of IBDers and IBSers have issues with it, that's why I altered my diet by not eating/drinking anything processed.

:)
Posted 1/4/2010 1:53 AM (GMT 0)
I don't see it being absorbed through your mouth as you brush your teeth and causing UC problems...it's probably one of those things where they gave thousands of times what a human would normally be exposed to into rats and discovered the rats had certain digestive problems. Thanks for the heads up but I haven't noticed a problem with using products with this thickening agent in it.
Posted 1/4/2010 2:00 AM (GMT 0)
I easily see it being absorbed through the mouth which is the start of the GI tract, things absorbed through the skin (the biggest organ of the body) can hae negative effects on our health including our GI health. Even toothpaste is suspected to be a trigger for IBD and I wouldn't be surprised if it's due to the carrageenan.


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Posted 1/4/2010 2:11 AM (GMT 0)
the entire skin is one thing (like a lotion staying there for a long time and being absorbed, many have problems there) but you really believe the minute the toothpaste is in your mouth while your brushing your teeth would cause a problem with your GI system, you're not eating the stuff and you should rinse your mouth...I don't see it but some must be extremely sensitive to this stuff. And the studies they ran were with the rats they overdosed like I said i that earlier post.
Posted 1/4/2010 2:21 AM (GMT 0)
It's been used to induce colitis in mice. I'm not sure about the toothpaste issue, but I'd rather not take chances with it. I avoid all "milks" with it - it is possible to avoid rice milk without it.
Posted 1/4/2010 2:24 AM (GMT 0)
Every time I eat sugarless gum I get urgency issues; it's hard to find non-sugarless gum anymore it seems. But I'm ingesting the stuff. I know drugs gets aborbed inside your mouth but it would seem that you're using a lot, swallowing some and not rinsing afterward. It just seems that as many food items that folks bring up here to avoid we should not eat anything but water to avoid problems...
Posted 1/4/2010 4:21 AM (GMT 0)
You can rinse all you want after you brush your teeth but there will still be traces left behind and that's enough to affect people and their GI tract.

BTW, Sugarless gum generally contains sugar alcohols like sorbitol, malitol (anything ending in "tol" is a sugar alcohol) and that can wreak havoc on a healthy persons GI tract let alone someone with an IBD or IBS, research has shown that even half a stick of Extra gum can cause gas, bloating and D.  Chewing gum or brushing your teeth produces salivia which will cause you to swallow and that's one way of how it can end up affecting your guts.

:)
Posted 1/4/2010 4:24 AM (GMT 0)
I meant buy rice milk without it.
Posted 1/4/2010 8:39 AM (GMT 0)
sorry for getting off topic but i thought it was the sucralose in these products instead of the sugar alcolohls that caused the urgency or diarrhea? What anyone's take on sucralose?
Posted 1/4/2010 9:47 AM (GMT 0)
I wouldn't ingest it on purpose, I avoid purchasing anything that has it in the ingredients list.
That or aspartame.

I will, however, chew gum with only xylitol (spry).....I don't chew many pieces in a day, however.
There is only one gum with just sugar....Glee....it's horrible and sticks to my teeth and hard as a rock in 5 minutes. Not worth the purchase.

q
Posted 1/4/2010 12:19 PM (GMT 0)
Hmmm. This has me thinking about my toothpaste, which is a whitening formula.
Posted 1/4/2010 6:56 PM (GMT 0)

Burli said...
sorry for getting off topic but i thought it was the sucralose in these products instead of the sugar alcolohls that caused the urgency or diarrhea? What anyone's take on sucralose?

Sucralose (splenda) found in low-carb products, diet soft drinks, gelatin, light fruit beverages and low-cal baked goods, is regular sugar (sucrose) bonded to chlorine...it is considered "safe" but I don't find sugar itself safe so I won't use sucralose either.

 

Let me know if you're curious about Aspertame, Acesulfmae Potasium or saccharin (sweet N low).

 

:)

Posted 1/4/2010 7:05 PM (GMT 0)
I get a mild reaction to anything that has carrageenan in it. One time I switched to a Lactaid milk (forgot which one - calcium enriched I think) and I kept going to the bathroom and then I learned that it had carrageenan in it. So I switched back to the old Lactaid that I was drinking. I would say that carrageenan bothers me but it doesn't make me flare.

Sugarless gum doesn't bother me unless I chew a lot of it in one day.
Posted 1/4/2010 8:28 PM (GMT 0)
If toothpastes contain carrageenan just what can anyone recommend I use to brush my teeth?
Posted 1/4/2010 8:29 PM (GMT 0)
Tom's? I used it for many years. It didn't peel my lips..lol...but have never noticed any gut symptoms from any toothpastes.

q
Posted 1/4/2010 9:12 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for this post...I thought I had a problem with my coffee mate creamer ( for the 1 cup of coffee I just can't give up
in the morning) I was right! I stopped using it when the current Flare I am having started up & I went back to plain old whole milk
& reg sugar (lactose not a problem for me but arti-sweetners are) in my coffee b/c I suspected the creamer may be causing the urgency.
Anyway, carrageenan is an ingredient. Needless to say I tossed it & will NEVER use any of those again! That "notmilk" page has some very
enlightening info. to each of us...our own right!
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