Beachlife - Saw Palmetto ?

I saw Saw Palmetto in your sig, I see that UC and saw palmetto do not mix..

Saw palmetto may increase your risk of bleeding

What should I discuss with my healthcare provider before taking Saw Palmetto (Saw Palmetto (Serenoa Repens))?

You should not use this medication if you are allergic to saw palmetto, or have certain conditions. Be sure your doctor knows if you have:

a bleeding or blood clotting disorder (such as hemophilia)
stomach ulcer with active bleeding; or
ulcerative colitis or Crohn's disease


You have no problems taking it ?

Post Edited (aguywithuc) : 3/17/2011 9:14:17 PM (GMT-6)

thank you for posting this aguywithuc, I had no idea. I didn't ask my GI but I did my TCM, he said no worries. So far nothing bad at all

I've taken almost 250 capsules of the Natural Whole Herb Saw Palmetto 450mg..but as I saw no difference in my urinary symptoms(BPH??), I did research and found that the Saw Palmetto needed to include fatty acids. Currently I'm taking(5/day):
GNC Saw Palmetto Herbal Supplement
Standardized Extract, 160mg
85% Fatty Acids
.2% Sterols

both have had no problems with my UC

ps - where did you read your warnings? I see nothing on these two bottles

Post Edited (beachlife) : 3/18/2011 5:20:56 PM (GMT-6)

I like Life Extension brand which contains all of the prostate herbs in one pill. Two pills a day will shrink the prostate, you will start noticing the difference in about 2-3 weeks. After everything is normal I still take one pill a day to keep it from growing back.

www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item01495/Ultra-Natural-Prostate-with-5-LOXIN-and-Standardized-Lignans.html

If you are worried about reducing your chances of getting prostate cancer as opposed to BPH then first of all get your blood levels of vitamin D checked. Optimum levels significantly reduce the risk. After you measure you may find that your 500 IU supplementation isn't enough.

Check out the studies that indicate that eating good soy like miso and tofu can help (not bad soy found in most meat substitutes)

Also get a good multivitamin with zinc and at least 200 mcg of natural selenium. Rainbow Light is good. Check this out:

The Nutritional Prevention of Cancer (NPC) study, first reported in 1996, included 1,312 men and women who had a history of non-melanoma skin cancer. Results of the trial showed that men who took selenium to prevent new non-melanoma skin cancers received no benefit from selenium in preventing that disease. However, approximately 60 percent fewer new cases of prostate cancer were observed among men who had taken selenium for six and one-half years than among men who took the placebo (3). In a 2002 follow-up report, the data showed that men who took selenium for more than seven and one-half years had about 52 percent fewer new cases of prostate cancer than men who took the placebo (4).

BabeintheWoods - Thanks for the Life Extension pills. Been taking them for over a month now. Can't say I see a change though. Nothing negative with the UC.

Update on me...Prostate Biopsy came back all negative - great news. Yesterdays cystoscopy did indeed show an inflamed Prostate Finally an answer - prostatitis? It's not painful so I'm not sure if prostatitis is the right term.

Must say, cystoscopy was not that bad. but the burning pain afterwards was BAD. Tried to convince myself pain is good, not easy. All better now. Don't schedule a cystoscopy on Friday afternoon!!

Dr Advice from what I remember last night while in pain:
- return in 4 weeks when I'm back to normal
- semen sample to see if the inflamed prostate is due to bacteria.
- acupuncture - most interested in this course of action!
- third antibiotic, forgot the name, starts with a D.. ..Doxycyline ??
- Tramadol

any thoughts from you smart folk?

Yes it is definitely that fast. I have seen men who are total skeptics concerning vitamins and nutrition become true believers after having BPH cured with saw palmetto.

But beachlife is talking about prostatitis, not BPH. I have heard that cernitin might help for some types of prostatitis but I have no direct experience with it.
www.lef.org/magazine/mag2010/feb2010_Optimal-Prostate-Defense-Requires-a-Multi-Modal-Strategy_01.htm?source=search&key=prostatitis

Cernitin significantly decreased inflammatory cytokines and tissue inflammation in a rat model of nonbacterial prostatitis, a painful chronic condition that afflicts many men.73 This may render it an ideal candidate both for the management of BPH and for a complication of chronic prostatitis called chronic pelvic pain syndrome, which has proven difficult to treat with standard medication.74,75

In 2009, a multicenter, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study showed that cernitin significantly improved measures of pain and quality of life in men with category III prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome, a prevalent condition for which no standardized treatment exists. Overall prostatitis symptom scores were also significantly reduced compared with placebo, without major side effects.76 Higher doses of cernitin appear to provide faster relief of symptoms.77

Post Edited (BabeintheWoods) : 5/15/2011 7:56:05 AM (GMT-6)

BabeintheWoods said...
Yes it is definitely that fast. I have seen men who are total skeptics concerning vitamins and nutrition become true believers after having BPH cured with saw palmetto.

But beachlife is talking about prostatitis, not BPH. I have heard that cernitin might help for some types of prostatitis but I have no direct experience with it.
www.lef.org/magazine/mag2010/feb2010_Optimal-Prostate-Defense-Requires-a-Multi-Modal-Strategy_01.htm?source=search&key=prostatitis

Cernitin significantly decreased inflammatory cytokines and tissue inflammation in a rat model of nonbacterial prostatitis, a painful chronic condition that afflicts many men.73 This may render it an ideal candidate both for the management of BPH and for a complication of chronic prostatitis called chronic pelvic pain syndrome, which has proven difficult to treat with standard medication.74,75

In 2009, a multicenter, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study showed that cernitin significantly improved measures of pain and quality of life in men with category III prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome, a prevalent condition for which no standardized treatment exists. Overall prostatitis symptom scores were also significantly reduced compared with placebo, without major side effects.76 Higher doses of cernitin appear to provide faster relief of symptoms.77

I'll give it a shot for bph and report back here.

Will do and thanks

I'm 27 and I've been using SP on and off for periods of a few months at a time with no issues with my UC.  The primary reason I've used it is because I've read medical journals citing "overly frequent (more than 3 times a week) ejaculation" as an eventual threat to prostate health.  I believe it has to do with hormonal imbalances after ejaculation which create conditions that can eventually increase the risk of prostate cancer. 

Not that I'm at all promiscuous or have a sex life to write home about (sorry hun!) but I didn't want to ever think of saying "not tonight dear" after counting past 3 on any given week!  When in remission and feeling up to it, I need to make the most of the situation!

As for safe sources (a very good point that supplements can sneak past regulating bodies like the FDA) I've been using "Swiss Natural Sources" and "Webber Naturals".

Life Extension replied to my email. Thanks Babeinthewoods for the info.


Please excuse the delay in our response. Graminex™ carries the patent for the Cernitin® trademark. The name on the supplement fact label was revised in 2010, but the ingredient is still the same (252mg of Secale cereale L.), which is the flower pollen extract we discussed in the February 2010 article. The Ultra Natural Prostate with 5-Loxin® and Standardized Lignans (#01495) is the product we carry with the flower pollen extract that has been shown to help ease inflammation of the prostate, as well as counteract the potentially harmful dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Here is a link to one of our prostate health protocols which discusses additional nutrients to support the prostate:

http://www.lef.org/protocols/male_reproductive/benign_prostatic_hyperplasia_01.htm

If you have any additional questions, please e-mail us or call the advisor helpline at (800) 226-2370; international customers dial 001-954-202-7660. We will be glad to assist you.

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