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Posted 8/7/2012 2:41 PM (GMT 0)
Something else,used to make teflon coated cookware,possible

also used in water repellants for rugs,furniture.

Wonderful: Better things for better living through Chemistry

Old Mike

http://www.statejournal.com/story/19146561/c8-science-panel-concludes-probable-link-to-colitis-thyroid-disease

http://westvirginianews.blogspot.com/2012/08/duponts-contamination-of-drinking-water.html

http://www.whitfordww.com/pdf/literature/pfoa%202-07.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfluorooctanoic_acid

This stuff is everywhere,I now have to wonder if it is in my plastic water filter.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20811865

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 8/7/2012 1:55:33 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/7/2012 7:12 PM (GMT 0)
I'm going to send you a bubble! I'm going to order one for myself too..lol.

Anything's possible, but the trigger to unlock the magic of UC.... I don't think we'll ever find.

q
Posted 8/7/2012 7:37 PM (GMT 0)
Impossible that we will never find. Everything is findable. Maybe not in our life time....but it is findable.
Posted 8/7/2012 7:42 PM (GMT 0)
OK....it's subjective then...impossible to find the trigger for everyone. And not everyone knows what's in their genes.

The game's afoot Watson!

q
Posted 8/7/2012 7:58 PM (GMT 0)
These are all possible causes but they really need to start looking
around 1920 or so for the cause. One of the problems now is that
most everyones gut bacteria is about the same due to the western
diet,they need to look at developing countries like Japan,China,middle east,and where it is increasing.
There researchers probably blew their chance in Japan by now.
Old Mike
Posted 8/7/2012 8:01 PM (GMT 0)
the reason why there was less IBD in Asian countries is because they ate alot of rice.

Rice is the cure. I'm gonna go get some Uncle's Ben tonight from the store. You want some Mike?
Posted 8/7/2012 8:02 PM (GMT 0)
Yes Mike...but travel to all parts of the world are easily accessible by everyone...from and to their "more contained" lifestyle.

The more we add to our environment or expose ourselves to, it causes the body to react in ways that have never challenged genes.

What diseases do the Chinese, middle easterners and Japanese suffer that others don't?

q
Posted 8/7/2012 11:10 PM (GMT 0)

quincy said...
OK....it's subjective then...impossible to find the trigger for everyone. And not everyone knows what's in their genes.

Baloney! There is nothing subjective about bleeding from your rear or going ten times a day. The cells in your intestines obey the same laws of physics and chemistry as everything else. To say that it's impossible to discover the trigger for everyone is like saying it's impossible to figure out why every individual airplane is able to fly.
Posted 8/8/2012 2:57 AM (GMT 0)
meaning subjective to each one's trigger of UC.....and hello, not all bleed with flares of UC or go 10 times a day...that's only one set of symptoms depending on some variables. 


get real. if it was one thing across the board/or planet, they would have found it by now.

q

Posted 8/8/2012 3:59 AM (GMT 0)
How come I have a problem and no one else in my family does? We all ate the same, food was prepared the same...
Posted 8/8/2012 4:04 AM (GMT 0)
because it's not the food? We're all exposed to and pick up a crap load of stuff, maybe what's IN the food/on the food...what affects one, may not affect another.

You have no guarantee that someone else in your family down the line had no IBD...not many people talk butts.

q
Posted 8/8/2012 4:17 AM (GMT 0)
notsosicklygirl, you also don't know whom in your family is around the corner of getting an IBD either...my mom was in her 60's when she got her UC...I had my CD first and got it in my 20's...if my mom had died before she had her IBD triggered I still couldn't assume that I'm the only one in my family that has an IBD...not to mention, they don't even have a clue how exactly it gets passed along...in some families an aunt or uncle has it but the parents don't.

And research has already said it's more than likely a combination of environmental triggers rather than just one trigger and each person's triggers would likely vary from one another. This is also why it's so difficult for them to pinpoint this disease.

IBD has been around for over one hundred years, no way in heck that everyone knows what their ancestors from over a hundred years ago bowel habit were.

It's easy to blame triggers to be on current things but clearly if IBD has been around as long as it has then triggers come from the distant past that we are still "exposed" to. And there very well could be new triggers nowadays that weren't around a century or more ago.
Posted 8/8/2012 4:18 AM (GMT 0)
And Q, you don't know for sure that it's not from food, be it the food itself or bacterias on the food...if researchers can't rule food/diet out, neither can you or anyone else. You may not "think" it's from food, but that doesn't make it a fact...it's simply your opinion.
Posted 8/8/2012 6:13 AM (GMT 0)
And a strong opinion it is, I know it just bugs the heck out of you.
What's IN or ON the food, yes...the chemicals added, the altered tidbits that pass for food...maybe. So, it's semantics. Food. I guess, could be stated as anything that one consumes? (aside for the weird stuff like upholstery foam, toilet paper, bleach, detergent, stones, dirt, glass, etc, for which some have a need)

q
Posted 8/8/2012 12:25 PM (GMT 0)
Quincy is correct insofar as the "magic bullet" for us is not going to be eliminating some trigger (really, multiple bullets will be needed- we all know that nothing works for everyone, and UC- indeed all IBD- is surely a wide family of related disorders that is simply lumped together for convenience). Rather, the magic bullet(s) are going to be how to restore robustness- stability- to a fragile, shaky, hypersensitive immune system. It's the immune system thats bonkers. We definitely need to tiptoe around our triggers (antibiotics were clearly the killer app that set me off), but the holy grail is how to restore tolerance so that our immune systems dont have a temper tantrum fr triggers that are innocuous to 99% of the population.
Posted 8/8/2012 1:50 PM (GMT 0)
I agree that perhaps alot of us who don't have family hx of uc probably do BUT likely our ancesotors had much more mild symptoms. The question is why is it becoming more prevalent, and virulent, now?
I just wanna kill this disease, my dream is to see it obliterated off the face of the earth.
Posted 8/8/2012 4:57 PM (GMT 0)
Concquer UC, that's quite a speculation you're making....as if IBD syptoms likely weren't as bad back then as it's become...each person (then and now) has it differently and I'm sure that if you could ask president Kennedy how he'd rate his colitis, it would be a 10 on a scale with 10 being the worst....check out this link...

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec02/jfk_11-18.html

John Kennedy was sick from age 13 on. In 1930, when he was 13, he developed abdominal pain. By 1934 he was sent to the Mayo Clinic where they diagnosed colitis or it was called colitis.

The 34th president of the United States, Dwight D. Eisenhower, suffered from Crohn's disease and underwent an emergency resection in 1956. That sounds like he had it pretty serious to me.

It's becoming more prevalent now because there are more people now and even worse "toxins" now than before.
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