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Posted 9/29/2012 6:17 PM (GMT 0)
OK. I have meant to make a follow up post on this issue but haven't gotton around to it until now. As some of you know last Tuesday for dinner I had pizza, fried cheese sticks, and ice cream sandwhiches for dessert (forgot to mention that). I've never had a problem eating pizza or ice cream sandwhiches. I had a really miserable night, going to the bathroom probably 20 times in a 4 hour span. I vowed I would never have cheese sticks again. To my credit, I haven't but I do like experimenting so the following night I decided to have leftover pizza and followed it up with ice cream sandwhiches, no cheese sticks. I had another misearable night and I couldn't blame the cheese sticks. Makes me wonder what would have happened if I had had cheese sticks only and no pizza or ice cream sandwhiches but after the hell I went through I didn't have the guts to even think about really trying it. I have never had any problem with pizza or ice cream before but for an entire week before this incident I started to take Zymactive, a combination of several different protease digestive enymes. They made my condition worse and I had to discontinue them. I believe this must have been the reason why I could eat the pizza and ice cream before but had a miserable time with them on this occasion. Anybody have a guess what would have happened to me if I had eaten just the cheese sticks only that second night?
Posted 9/29/2012 6:22 PM (GMT 0)
I, personally, don't think it's a "serious" issue, just difficult to pinpoint the exact culprit in your own mind.

That's a lOT of milk product and fat...sometimes the digestive tract can handle a fair amount and then one drop more and it's all hell.

I used Zymactive for a while, but found I was losing too much weight. It can also be used between meals for weightloss...so I would say it was breaking stuff down fairly quickly/efficiently after using it for a while.

How much were you taking?

q
Posted 9/29/2012 6:30 PM (GMT 0)
Bit difficult to figure out.
Pizza high fat and gluten from the wheat,milk protein.
Ice cream sandwich: Fat,chocholate,wheat,milk protein,and unless real
icecream a bunch of additivies including possible carrageenan.
Cheese sticks,fat,fried with veggie oil,milk protein,wheat coating and who
knows what else.
High fat meal induces bile,bacterial and endotoxion transloction,and different bacteria to grow.
The trend seems to be high fat
causing some problem,but too
much going on for me to figure out. Is it real icecream or does it contain a high amount of synthetic milk fat.
Old Mike
Posted 9/29/2012 6:57 PM (GMT 0)
i'm just wondering what your wife had to say about all this experimentation - i can't imagine she was appreciative of what i'm guessing to be a very pungent environment -
Posted 9/29/2012 7:06 PM (GMT 0)
i agree with soystud haha your poor wife!

but yeah, all those cheesesticks are deep fried and so fatty... plus it has gluten and god knows what other things in that batter.

do you think you really need the enzymes? i keep reading a lot of different views about them. i think having too many enzymes would just speed up your digestion way too much and unless you have been tested that you have some sort of enzyme deficiency, i wouldn't take them.

Posted 9/29/2012 7:07 PM (GMT 0)
Just curious, are you used to eating this specific pizza and these specific ice cream sandwiches?
Posted 9/29/2012 7:22 PM (GMT 0)
seriously tho - could a normal person survive that butt-blaster unscathed ? let alone us colon compromised wimps ! and you went back for seconds ?
Posted 9/29/2012 10:45 PM (GMT 0)
Quincy: I was taking 1 zymactive pill, 3 times per day. I think that was the recommended dosage.

soystud: I had bad smelling flatulance two years ago at initial onset of my UC and for the most part, since basically being controlled through VSL and Asacol, there has not been any bad smells, no matter what I eat, including these two bad episodes. I actually try experimenting quite a bit. I guess I am a bit of a scientist. There have been several times where I ate something and seemed to be worse afterward and then turned around and ate the very same thing like the next day and wound up having a better day than usual. Go figure. Unless I truly have a really bad experience I don't condemn any food after just one bad experience.

bananagirl: I basically have zero UC symptoms other than frequency and too much gas and I kept reading that UC patients don't have enough enzymes to digest certain foods, causing gas and this was one reason I tried this approach. The second reason was that I was strongly believing that my UC is caused by the epstein barr virus in my colon, causing the inflammation process. I read that these particular protease enzymes were good at helping to fight that epstein barr virus. I never had my enzymes tested and this treatment pretty much backfired, making me worse. Fortunately I have since returned to my normal after discontinuing them.

ActiveUCer: That is an excellent question. Ice cream sandwhiches were the exact same. I have eaten many different kinds of pizzas with no problem. Most of the time I eat just cheese. I'm not into veggies on pizza much and even though the meats are good they give me a heart attack just looking at them so I usually stick with just cheese. This particular pizza happened to be a new one for me - Pizza Hut thin crust pizza. It did have ham on it. I have never had this particular version before since having my UC. Even though it is possible that the new version did something to me this thin crust cheese pizza has less fat, less cheese, etc than the Pizza Hut pan pizza I just had about a week earlier with no problems, other than weight gain. I'm really leaning toward my bad experience with the digestive enzymes temporarily made my UC worse, causing me to be more sensitive this particular time around.

Post Edited (garylouisville) : 9/29/2012 6:01:21 PM (GMT-6)

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