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Posted 12/10/2012 5:59 PM (GMT 0)
I have often wondered that just about everything they try on mice/rats improves the condition after

DDS induced colitis.  This little gem has just popped up on pubmed.

Old Mike

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23211300

 

Posted 12/10/2012 6:14 PM (GMT 0)
OM, I had to see what products carry this ingredient on our shelves today. I was surprised to see it is in energy drinks!

http://www.dextransulfate.com/dextran-sulfate-sodium.html


L-arginine Supplementation Improves Responses to Injury and Inflammation in Dextran Sulfate Sodium Colitis


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3299802/

What else has it?

I think deicer has it in it also but not 100% sure yet...

I am thinking all sulfates are just bad..I would have to question alot of processes foods then.

Steve

Post Edited (twiggs) : 12/10/2012 11:29:21 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/10/2012 6:26 PM (GMT 0)
Rodent studies that used symptoms as outcome may be most at risk of being invalid. The ones that did colon biopsies after DSS to see about treatments that protected or reversed, those should still be mostly valid.
Posted 12/10/2012 6:31 PM (GMT 0)
Ok here is a government link to sulfates in drinking water in general.

http://water.epa.gov/drink/contaminants/unregulated/sulfate.cfm

Perhaps we need to look at sulfates in general in foods and water etc...

Steve
Posted 12/10/2012 6:46 PM (GMT 0)
Believe that to be  bogus info, cannot find any use of dextran sulfate in food.

However dextran might have been used in an energy drink of which I cannot locate.

Old Mike

http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodIngredientsPackaging/GenerallyRecognizedasSafeGRAS/GRASSubstancesSCOGSDatabase/ucm261271.htm

Posted 12/10/2012 6:57 PM (GMT 0)
Steve: I have a huge threads on sulfates, dextran sulfate is not the same thing.
DB: Yes it is hard to tell which ones might be valid, but even if the colon improves it might possibly be
due to healing in other parts of the digestive track. Back in the old days 1950's or so they used to instill hydrogen
peroxide into the colon,possibly this might ber a more valid procedure,don't know for sure.
Old Mike
Posted 12/10/2012 6:58 PM (GMT 0)
Perhaps but what about sulfates or sulfites in general you think it is worth looking into?

Steve

Post Edited (twiggs) : 12/10/2012 12:02:09 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/10/2012 7:31 PM (GMT 0)
Steve here is a thread,use the search function,search beta oxidation,sulfate reducing bacteria,milk fat,sulfites.

Whether any of it causes a problem,don't know for sure.

Old Mike

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=2496733

 

Posted 12/11/2012 2:15 PM (GMT 0)
OM, wow thats alot of info in that past thread..I have plenty to read up on now. I have been on a paleo diet mostly with the addition of very limited pasta and bread. When I do eat bread it is sourdough bread. I dont eat dairy except for swiss cheese. I am also one who had experienced very high amounts of sulferous gas prior to getting this disease. I mean I had 6 months of it where immediatly after eating anything I would have terrible sulferous gas. I noticed it especially after drinking dark beer. Not long after after it going away this happened. Now I dont smell anything unless I eat garlic even then I dont smell iot that much just barely. I see that this symptom of high sulfer in gas form prior to getting dx is high with us in the case. I am not sure where to go with that but it is a commonality. I guess I will keep reading that past thread and your links.

Steve
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