From great to flaring - 2 unendorsements

I stuffed myself with breaded pudding and chocolates and cakes over the entire holiday season. It just kept flowing to my door and our table when out dining with family.

I was doing great with digestive enzymes even hit 'PP' perfect poop.

Then early January I had a freshly steamed salmon from Whole foods with a curry rub. Tasted great and the more I ate it the worse I got - quickly. I tossed it however I was stuck in rinse mode. Then the rinse became red colored for a week straight - I bled a lot and am back on special iron tabs. This did not seem to be salmonella etc. Hard to say what went wrong but it was clear I would soon be on prednisone if I could not reverse the collapse.

Last supplement added : Concentrated Cherry juice
2nd to last supplement added : Serrapeptase

I take back my endorsement of each.

Now I had taken Serrapeptase for weeks and was fine BUT maybe it is foolish to take both digestive enzymes and a systemic enzyme. It was only supposed to clear away fibrin from clots and dead tissue to help with inflammation - seems like with digestive enzymes it was doing more than that and eating a hole into me. God only knows, what I do know is I was going down and I subtracted and added back in the right items. This after all was my FIRST ever winter flare.

All red is gone, rinse mode is gone, sore spot in intestine is gone. Everything is improving, back up 6 lbs in body weight.

Protocol to get back to normal ( and probably settle on this protocol and stop experiementing )

- Terramin clay pills at 3:00 am with glass of water set out before bed
- Psyllium Seed powder 2 spoons, cod liver oil lemon flavored with whey protein blended
- 4 Psyllium husk pills ( I finally felt them this time, could feel it moving over inflammed area like sand paper )
- VSL#3DS
- The other 3 over the counter probiotics I had laying around.
- 'Go Raw' sprouted sunflower seeds - great tasting with sea salt
- Eggs,butter,swiss,siggy icelandic low carb yogurt, chobani candy yogurt
- Harvest seeded bread
- No juice no soft drinks only water and Ultima hydration powder or just water

- lots of chicken
- brown rice
- some potatos
- some mixed greens

Took 2 days off from lifting weights - body felt like it was doing a lot of heeling apart from the muscles so I just let it heal.

Post Edited (aguywithuc) : 1/21/2013 12:32:32 PM (GMT-7)

Do you lift while flaring? I try not to but i have always wondered if i was to lift during a flare would it do any harm...

I still have Terramin clay laying around, you still think this helps? I can't tell. Psyllium always seems to make me bleed more. Can you go to profile and update your signature line and add what all you are taking. Any meds? I seem to forget who's who. Sorry and Thanks

I have clay too... Can't say it did much back when I tried it

omg I'm sorry to keep writing. You know I love working out but find I can't do it much when I'm flaring (which seems to be all the time) I wonder if I'm depressed to.

Can you suggest anything to up my spirit. The reason why I said I might have depression issues is because a friend of mine text me at 8 20am (while I'm still in bed) and said she just left the gym and I sprung out of bed and said "yep that's what I'm going to do today" and yet the day is not over but I'm not movtivated to go, I'm in a rut and I don't know how to get out of it. But hearing she went made me want to go and bust up with "I can" do spirit. I have  a lot of diarreah right now a ton to be exact and I think this makes me fearful of going any where.

I don't know why I have it. I ordered a stool analysis that will cost about $300 when I get it, but I need to know what the heck is going on.

 

therearemiracles said...
I still have Terramin clay laying around, you still think this helps? I can't tell. Psyllium always seems to make me bleed more. Can you go to profile and update your signature line and add what all you are taking. Any meds? I seem to forget who's who. Sorry and Thanks

It is actually there, but needs an update, if I use the quick post it shows up just not using REPLY. I will try to hit that today because I am still looking at the after math to figure out what worked, my part of the kitchen has 50 supplement bottles and all but the ancient ones were suspended.

I need a clear list of what to do next time too so I will take your advice and get it in there today.

This is a 'Quick Reply' and I expect my old signature will show up, but I modified it quickly to reflect my latest tale of recovery from too much experimentation. Can fine tune it later.

Zinc Picolinate
Iron Glycinate, Citrate
Magnesium Chloride spray on skin.....experiementing with Magnesium Glycinate

Any of these take in the wrong form wrecks my guts happiness.

This last bout felt like I was feeding myself dextran-sulfate or something...which I why I cut out everything but known-safe and known-helpful.

Drum roll for the signature via 'Quick Reply' test......

Interesting Gary. For the first couple years I swore by salmon as a simple method out of a flare, 5 days of salmon 3 meals a day and I was on my way out. For the last year it all seems pretty gross except what Whole foods produces at deli or steamer and this time the steamer seemed like it got me me or something in the rub he put on it.

Salmon is so anti-inflammatory, but it is very fatty and I can just use chicken and rice for now, still learning to cook. Last nights ginger-honey chicken was a horrible recipe to follow, made my kid a sandwhich :)

Interesting. That is my newly edited sig from today, but Quick Reply has it cached and did not notice I just corrected somethings before saving to my profile. Will test again after some time passes.

Good you were able to get back on track.

aguywithuc, if your willing to share, how many calories do you try to consume on a good day? and on a flare day? do you feel like flares set you back a little on weight?

I use P90X, i've counted calories and I upped them during break -- consuming around 3000 daily. From 130lbs in Jan 2011 to 145 this last Xmas. Current flare set me back to 140lbs..

stereofidelic89 said...
Good you were able to get back on track.

aguywithuc, if your willing to share, how many calories do you try to consume on a good day? and on a flare day? do you feel like flares set you back a little on weight?

I use P90X, i've counted calories and I upped them during break -- consuming around 3000 daily. From 130lbs in Jan 2011 to 145 this last Xmas. Current flare set me back to 140lbs..

I worked for a company that had gone public with a food logging software used with their MRM device. It would determine your resting metabolic rate. Then add in any cold water your drank, steps you took, all activity, have sex today ? Was it bla or vigorous ?

I bailed after they started tanking. Most people dont like to count calories. Most people are not able to count calories. Last two friends of friends said 'cutting calories did not work for them'. Wow knowing what I know that made me think they are dumb or deluding themselves.

I have such a hard time gaining weight I just look for up up and away. Now right now I got some around my middle and I dont like that. However my shoulders and chest are solid so I just need to cut out the b.s. calories. Less butter on things. No 'comfort foods'. UC only interacts when I am trying to go very low carb which I did last week to help get out of the hole I was in.

However I am making changes with spring months away. Downed chicken breast before chobani vanilla yogurt which has half the calories of the fruited choices. IOW I aint walking around the pool this month so nobody sees my smoothed out abdomon but me so no point in a knee-jerk reaction. After prednisone I just wanted to put muscle back on. Mission accomplished now I will lean out slowly over time.

"The most natural and gentle iron is Spatone, as it is naturally sourced from water high in iron. Also, it's in liquid form."

Thank you for posting that. Will pick some up tomorrow.

SouthernGirl6 said...
I know you replied to my post about the black cherry concentrate, but did you try the concentrate juice or just black cherry concentrate? Mine is like a thick syrup and I mix it with water. It has practically put me in remission..no blood since I posted a few days ago and 2 formed bms/day. I realize it may be one of those things that either helps or hurts because we're all different.

Not sure I undestand the difference.
-black cherry concentrate
-concentrate juice

Let me go see what the label says :

100% Black Cherry Concentrate ( unsweetened )
Ingedients : Black Cherry Juice Concentrate
contains 70% juice when reconstituted

The juice and the serrapeptapse might have been thrown under the bus, but I had to do something and the 'new' items made the most sense.