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Posted 6/8/2013 5:01 PM (GMT 0)
Is it reducing people's level of pain?
Posted 6/10/2013 3:42 PM (GMT 0)
So its been about 4 days since I started taking CCHerbal. Honestly this is the most amazing stuff I've taken! It's helping me tremendously. I was afraid I wasn't able to run the Warrior Dash over the weekend due to my flare. However, I felt good and did the race! I feel pretty amazing right now.

My flare has gone down and I can feel some healing going on. My bouts of constipation and D are gone!!! My stools are well formed compared to the last couple weeks of agony I've been having.

Honestly I wasn't sure this stuff would work. I mean the website does look a little generic. However, I decided to take the plunge. And it honestly paid off. These are legitimate Chinese herbs listed. I'm glad I tried CCHerbal. I will keep updating on my progress with CCHerbal.
Posted 6/25/2013 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
therearemiracles whats the latest
Posted 6/25/2013 7:00 PM (GMT 0)
I have to say its been over two weeks and I am in remission. I feel fortunate to have found this stuff. Even my acupuncturist was advocating trying Chinese herbs. I'm glad I did.
Posted 6/25/2013 7:01 PM (GMT 0)
Not good for me when I started because I just started amino acid therapy too, I had back off of everything.
Posted 6/25/2013 7:56 PM (GMT 0)

therearemiracles said...
Not good for me when I started because I just started amino acid therapy too, I had back off of everything.

What does that mean?
Posted 6/26/2013 12:43 AM (GMT 0)
So, no one else has tried or is trying ccherbal? I'm skeptical about this kind of stuff, even more skeptical because the few successes seem suspicious.
Posted 6/26/2013 9:06 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah...
Posted 6/27/2013 3:33 AM (GMT 0)

A couple of days ago I posted my current experience under the topic CCHERBAL and Natura Alpha. 

I started taking the herb a short time ago after enduring an over a year long flare.  I lost 65 ibs.

and had to be on IVs.  I couldn't eat or drink anything without running to the bathroom.  Have

been confined to my house forever.  After three days of taking the herb from CCHERBAL my flare

for the most part stopped.  Now I am eating meals without any problems.  I don't know if my prayers

were answered the day I started taking the herb, but I'm now going shopping with my wife and feel

in control again.  I'm not saying I'm totally cured but I no longer am running to the bathroom.  My

stools are no longer bloody and are getting almost too firm.  What a change. My GP Doctor believes

in multiple approaches to health care but my Internal Specialist is not happy with me.  He doesn't

believe in anything but what he prescribes.  The herbs in the capsules are Indigo, skullcap root and

Costus root.  I have also cut my other meds in half ( 2 Aprisos instead of 4 & 1 entocort vs 3) without

any negative affect.  If the flare starts up again I will post immediately to let you know.  I hope to

stop all meds if everything continues to improve.  I do not know if your results will be dramictic as

mine but I was at a point where I couldn't imagine getting any worst than I already was.

Hope this is of some use to you.      

Posted 6/27/2013 1:23 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah, what Maroonbamjo said..
Posted 8/26/2013 11:16 AM (GMT 0)
I ran across an article that noted the efficacy of Qing Dai (a component of CCHerbal) for UC which referenced the following study. It appears to have had rather impressive results.

Therapeutic efficacy of the Qing Dai in patients with intractable ulcerative colitis

Yet another thing to add to my list of stuff to try if necessary.
Posted 8/27/2013 2:08 AM (GMT 0)
There are some more articles that noted efficacy and safety of Indigo Naturalis(Qing Dai).

1. Therapeutic efficacy of the Qing Dai in patients with intractable ulcerative colitis (World Journal of Gastroenterology)

2. Efficacy and safety of Fufangkushen colon-coated capsule in the treatment of ulcerative colitis compared with mesalazine: a double-blinded and randomized study.

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And I have been taking Qing Dai power over a month.

I had taken Pentasa(Mesalazine), Clipper(colon-coated steroid), and Salofalk(Mesalazine suppositories) but it didn't work.

However, after taking Qing Dai power 2g per day for 5 days, it started to work.

After taking it for 2 week, i got into remission.

And there are at least 2 thousand people taking Qing Dai in Japan.

Recently many South Koreans started taking Qing Dai.

In Chinese herbal medicine, it is common to prescrib Qing Dai for oral administration and enema.

Post Edited (HM Kim) : 8/26/2013 8:33:54 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/27/2013 11:14 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the information.

How do you know that Fufangkushen contains Qing Dai? I searched but could not find any detailed information about Fufangkushen.
Posted 8/27/2013 1:45 PM (GMT 0)
If you google "Fufangkushen" on the web, you can find full pdf file.

and you can find the ingredients of Fufangkushen capsule in that pdf file.

Use the URL below.

(if you just click it, it won't work. Copy and paste it in the address bar.) 

http://www.tcmclinmed.com.cn/fujian/4%20Efficacy%20and%20safety%20of%20Fufangkushen%20colon-coated%20capsule%20in%20the%20treatment%20of%20ulcerative.pdf

Post Edited (HM Kim) : 8/27/2013 7:52:22 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/27/2013 2:17 PM (GMT 0)
And there is another herbal capsule that contains Qing Dai(Indigo Naturalis) named "CSCC".

But now I can't find free full text.

Just click the URL below.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21110172

 

Posted 8/27/2013 5:14 PM (GMT 0)
Stay away from CCherbal. As I just posted in another thread:

Nothing is standardized.
Nothing is organic.
The pills are filled with a blueish mystery powder.
There are no scientific names of the herbs supposedly in the pills.
There are few if any trustworthy anecdotes on here or anywhere else regarding the efficacy of this stuff.
China's water, soil, and air are largely defiled and polluted, anything grown there is suspect.

Save your money.
Posted 1/5/2015 5:20 AM (GMT 0)
This is my first post anywhere about this. I'm a 30 year old Male who is just mentally and emotionally coming to terms with being diagnosed with colitis three years ago. 2014 was my worst year dealing with flair ups and colitis related issues. I read all your posts a little over a month ago and thought I should share my experience with CCherbal.

I have been taking CCherbal for over a month now. After 30 days I decided to order a 3 month supply. All year my flair ups had been up and down but in October and November I had a very serious one that wasn't getting any better. I went on a steroid for a week, started taking Mesalamine again, and got back on Fetzima to help me handle my stress. Stress is a major trigger for a majority of my flair ups. I've always taken fiber and I take probiotics and other vitamins on and off. My mom is a nurse and a patient told her about CCherbal. I was very skeptical since the website doesn't look medically professional but I wanted to try something different. I'm so sick of being on this flair up roller coaster.

I don't know yet if CCherbal was the miracle I was looking for or if it was the combination of everything but I haven't felt this good in over a year. December usually scares me to death because of all the running around, holiday parties, car rides, and normal holiday money stress. I thought I would be spending the entire month taking Loperamide or some other anti-diarrheal but I only took them before Christmas parties as a safety precaution. I feel so much better and i've been able to make it to work on time again. The stress of sitting in traffic without a restroom tends to make me late during a flair up.

I'm going to stop using Melamine this week and just try out the CCherbal, Fetzima, fiber, and probiotic. Hopefully this combination will work out for awhile because I would love to start running again this spring. It has been quite awhile since I felt comfortable enough to start running again.

I hope this helps anyone who might be skeptical like me. Maybe I will pop back on and give you an update soon. Thanks for all your posts they have really helped me.

Post Edited (Ichabodpro) : 1/4/2015 10:25:27 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 11/23/2018 12:38 AM (GMT 0)
Hi everybody
My son took the ccherbal for almost 4 years; and he had no major flare since .
But he had 2 small one ,each one are on the very stressful time at work or in his personal life .
but he can go to work and had a normal social life .
he didn’t take other medication for years, just probiotics and CCherbal and some Qin powder. Perhaps isn’t the product for everybody but for him it was a life saver .
Posted 11/26/2018 3:45 PM (GMT 0)
I'm wondering if any of the 'old and confirmed' members have had any real successes with Chinese herbs? or is it only Maroonbamjo (with all respect) who has been cured completely?
Posted 11/26/2018 4:43 PM (GMT 0)
I wonder that as well, as there is always one or several almost fanatical pro-claimers of the benefits of (insert random supplement) and often one-time posters with little if any followup months later. What really matters is sustained and repeatable results, not just one individual's excited proclamation of the last thing he/she did being absolutely the reason he/she achieved a remission (despite internal healing taking many months and likely a combination of things to achieve a good result). There's always the "spontaneous remission" that's described within UC literature to consider as well (sometimes UC goes into a remission with no explainable cause/reason).
Posted 11/27/2018 10:57 AM (GMT 0)
I have been taking CCherbal since 2009 and joined HealingWell in 2010. I have seen several postings over the years where people are having good results with CCherbal as well as other things. I could be wrong but it seems like people who have found a treatment that is effective for them, might move on and stop posting (no follow up). Mary
Posted Yesterday 2:39 AM (GMT 0)
I have been in a continuous flare since last October. Entyvio and a high dose of steroids since January. Still flaring with all of that. Started trying to get off of Prednisone in May due to osteoporosis. Had to go back up in June due to antibodies to Entyvio. I am currently holding at 4mg because I am having a difficult time adrenal wise getting off of them. I started bleeding as soon as I worked on tapering down. I did a bunch of research, and in the end of September I ordered Qing Dai from Acupuncture Atlanta. I researched the company that bottles/processes it first, because of concerns with Chinese products. It is packaged in the USA, and they do testing. My first time taking it my bleeding stopped after 2 days. I was taking aprox. 1.5 grams. I spooked because of some big increase in pain one day, and quit taking it. It took 1 week for my bleeding to return. I tried it again, and again, bleeding stopped in 2 days. I tend to flare back up in the fall. I am flaring back up per symptoms and blood work. (Had a couple of accidents, little bit of bleeding) I had missed a week to 1.5 weeks because I ran out. I resumed taking it, no bleeding, no more accidents after 3 days. It isn't a cure...I can't stop taking it and stay better. Not even sure if it is really enough for me as I am losing weight again. Didn't realize how much until I realized today I had lost my wedding ring due to it falling off. Going to keep taking it for right now as it seems I am quite a bit worse without it.
Posted Yesterday 5:50 PM (GMT 0)

freddyj said...
Stay away from CCherbal. As I just posted in another thread:
The pills are filled with a blueish mystery powder.
There are no scientific names of the herbs supposedly in the pills.
There are few if any trustworthy anecdotes on here or anywhere else regarding the efficacy of this stuff.
China's water, soil, and air are largely defiled and polluted, anything grown there is suspect.
Save your money.

So ... the active ingredient Isatis Naturalis, aka Isatis Tinctorum, aka Woad, aka basically a plant that grows out of the ground that has been used for centuries is a "mystery powder"?

There are no "scientific names" for this herb ..... you mean like the ones I just named?
There are no "trustworthy anecdotes" .... what exactly is a "trustworthy anecdote" anyway?
Do you mean no "trustworthy studies"? As in "clinical studies"? Specifically done for UC? Like this one?
https://www.karger.com/Article/PDF/444217
Or this one?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4604072/
Or this one?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4306662/

China's ground is polluted ... ok, maybe there are no unpolluted areas in China, and we shouldn't eat ANYTHING that's grown in China ... but are there are no sources for isatis naturalis outside of China? Or in the US? Are you saying it can't be grown in your own backyard?

Save your money .... I agree, I've saved lots of money from the remission I've received from the herb.... then again I'm probably not a "trustworthy anecdote"..
Posted Today 1:35 AM (GMT 0)
Diagnosed in early 2013 with severe pancolitis- I have done steroids as well as mesalamine for both ends. Every healing diet imaginable, thousands of dollars in supplements, naturopaths, chiropractors, network spinal therapy, yoga therapy, reflexology...by far the best thing to get me out of a flare and jump start me towards remission is a similar herb called Isatis Cooling by Health Concerns. It’s a Chinese herb blend and you can find information on it in several threads, some by me. I also respond to those that contact me directly about my experience- I don’t work for the company and have nothing to gain here. I found the name of it in a super old thread and my results were so great I wanted to share. I wish there was more research on it that was peer reviewed but took my chances on it and was glad I did. I don’t come around here much as I am doing well, but pop in sometimes to give updates! Not everything works for everyone so this is a great place to share ideas - each of us has to find our “secret sauce”. smile
Posted Today 10:15 AM (GMT 0)
I’ve bought Isatis Cooling without using it yet as Mesalazine is working well. Can you tell me what dose you use? Also do you use it during remission too?
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