Meats Q

I read Old Mike's post on meat and it reminded me so let's say you want to do scd or paleo but you can't afford organic /grass fed meat, is it still going to be beneficial? Or is it unhealthy because of all the hormones in the meat etc?

I don't know about scd or paleo but it is my opinion that some people go way overboard with their diets, such as organic, grass fed, etc. I find just eating unprocessed meats is better for me than fruits and vegetables or fiber and I don't buy special meats. I saw a show like 20/20 or something which did a segment showing you don't always get what you think you're getting with that stuff. I truly believe that some people may need to avoid grocery store meats but that is only about 1 out of 100 who truly have a problem. If you want to make it a mental thing that's ok but in reality people don't get as much benefit out of it as they think they do. For most people it is just a marketing gimmick.

I think if your diet is primarily meat, then it is CRUCIAL to buy the best quality out there. I did the same thing when I was a fruitarian- just bought organic fruits because it was the bulk of my diet. I'm not saying you won't get sick (look where raw veganism got me), but if you can budget for quality meat, it is so worth it.

Gary- tell me more about that. Are you talking about fruits and veggies as well? Like saying the organic thing is marketing ploy?

Whoooooooooooah! Don't take what I said toooooo seriously. Yes I was talking about all the organic (etc) stuff like fruits, vegetables, meats, etc. I can't remember what show it was I saw but it was like 20/20, Dateline, etc. where they did a segment showing that you're not always getting what you think you are getting and that many things aren't as "organic" as you thought. The show did not codemn the concept as a whole but, if I remember correctly, they did find some items in just about every store that turned out to be not quite as organic as thought. In some cases I think even the stores themselves were surprised at the findings. It is a marketing ploy to some extent just as all advertising has marketing ploys. By marketing ploy I was merely trying to say they are marketing all this stuff as being "healthy" when in fact I don't believe there is any solid evidence that unorganic is unhealthy and organic is more healthy, sort of like in the 60's there was no real evidence that smoking was actually unhealthy. I really hate making that comparison because it presupposes that at some point it will actually be proven that organic is healthier than nonorganic and that may not wind up being the case. I certainly didn't mean to imply that these stores are outright lying to us.

garylouisville said...
I don't know about scd or paleo but it is my opinion that some people go way overboard with their diets, such as organic, grass fed, etc. I find just eating unprocessed meats is better for me than fruits and vegetables or fiber and I don't buy special meats. I saw a show like 20/20 or something which did a segment showing you don't always get what you think you're getting with that stuff. I truly believe that some people may need to avoid grocery store meats but that is only about 1 out of 100 who truly have a problem. If you want to make it a mental thing that's ok but in reality people don't get as much benefit out of it as they think they do. For most people it is just a marketing gimmick.

Ha ha, thinking whats in the store and your average restaurant is "perfectly fine" is the only real marketing gimmick where meat is concerned. What a joke.

Why dont you all just go to the source and get your omega 3s from fruits and veggies (where the cow got them mind you). Is it just a matter of the fiber not agreeing with you? I truly dont get it and think paleo is a huge load of BS.

The only thing about paleo that is a huge load of bs is eating no grains; paleo people did eat grains. That and the fact that most "paleos" are eating meat that comes from a system as different from what real paleos ate as can be imagined.

they ate chicken & fried rice.

Somedude- you're taking LDN? How is it?

Boo. That's how I feel about all the meds I've tried except for the steroids :/

There are plenty of different wild grasses and other seed bearing plants that paleo people ground into food. They just probably werent doing it to the extent that we do today. Most wild grasses make edible seeds, some just aren't large enough to bother with, but many are. It just depends where on the planet you're talking about and what a paleo culture, and what the native flora had to offer there. For example in California, people from over 100 different cultures we're relying heavily on acorns. Not a grain, granted, but still a carb. And there were many many wild grasses and other seeds that were eaten as well, some of which could probably be considered staples, at least seasonally.

Post Edited (freddyj) : 2/18/2013 10:10:05 AM (GMT-7)

hahahaha,

you got the raw food cultists arguing with the vegan people which in turn are arguing with the SCD/Paleo people who in turn are arguing with the normal eating people who in turn argue with the people taking meds who in turn argue with the people who choose surgery who in turn argue with the people who chose j pouch vs bag.

lol lol....can you read all this stuff I wrote?