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Posted 6/4/2013 7:59 PM (GMT 0)
just FYI...clay intake is pure aluminum intake. Probably not a good thing.



Only beatUC thinks it's nasty, fruitgirl. That's a very biased opinion carefully planned jab.

Chrissy...you do have lots of anxiety, and this issue is really the same old.

Any extreme in eating isn't good, and for your baby's sake, going down that path can also encourage him/her to adopt the same eating fears.

You won't cure your UC with food....period.

Balanced is good, but if you believe what you eat is bad, that's a psychological issue.

And there are obviously many here to encourage that thinking.



JUST SAYING!!!

q
Posted 6/4/2013 8:44 PM (GMT 0)
natural clay has no aluminum and stop thinking every post is a jab at you Quincy.
It's not always about you. (in fact never)

Also, the effect on UC by diet is not purely psychological, to say so is demeaning and simply not true.
Many, many people have had success by diet alone and by using a holistic approach. We all know how individual UC is and using that same rationale, you can't dismiss any approach that is different that yours.
hey, if you can get your UC under control with diet. exercise, supplements, etc, more power to you!

Post Edited (beatUC) : 6/4/2013 2:54:10 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/4/2013 8:51 PM (GMT 0)
"Soystud- I know you have had a lovely remission from the natural path which is encouraging :D. And you still are potatoes lol. So rebellious in terms of the scd lol jk"


bagsfull !

potato smoothies ! yumm !

jk
Posted 6/4/2013 8:55 PM (GMT 0)
Chrissy - forget about any diet crap - just eat healthy, simple foods, take your meds, and most of all, take care of your baby -
Posted 6/4/2013 9:07 PM (GMT 0)

beatUC said...
natural clay has no aluminum and stop thinking every post is a jab at you Quincy.
It's not always about you. (in fact never)
!

lol, beatUC and Quincy in thread? bring the popcorn lol
Posted 6/4/2013 9:08 PM (GMT 0)
Also, the effect on UC by diet is not purely psychological, to say so is demeaning and simply not true.
Many, many people have had success by diet alone and by using a holistic approach. We all know how individual UC is and using that same rationale, you can't dismiss any approach that is different that yours.
hey, if you can get your UC under control with diet. exercise, supplements, etc, more power to you!


I could not agree more !. Diet modification absolutely works for some, obviously not all. Some people simply do not believe food has anything to do with it and it clearly does for many, to some extent.

Best...
Posted 6/4/2013 9:13 PM (GMT 0)
There will be no popcorn in this show Somedude. I have faith that these two will remain civil....right Q and BeatUC?
Posted 6/5/2013 5:59 PM (GMT 0)
beatUC...do the research. All clays, either bentonite or whatever either internally or externally are mostly aluminum in different forms.

I didn't say that the effect of diet is psychological. Diet has great impact on the body/mind/health.

The over-focus on food, fear of eating, etc is a psychological issue.

q
Posted 6/5/2013 7:26 PM (GMT 0)
I really have nothing helpful to add to this thread, since I no longer have my colon!! Still, I love reading all of this stuff...the way this disease effects and reacts so differently in everyone is so fascinating and frustrating. I say if a diet that you can live with brings any extra relief that the meds aren't giving you, then go for it, but don't go crazy trying to find it....it might not be the thing that works for you. I wish I could've gotten my mega flare under control and given that avenue a shot myself. That wasn't meant to be for me though, and I am very happy and healthy post-surgery.
Posted 6/5/2013 10:50 PM (GMT 0)
maybe what, the next time you are eating a delicious, greasy, yummy pizza with a crust as thick as a pillow, you'll take a moment to think of me, suffering in a crust free world, before you devour the next bite :-)
Posted 6/5/2013 10:53 PM (GMT 0)
soystud....I'll think of you tonight while I'm having corn chips and salsa...would that help?

Have you tried making gluten free crust?

Thick crust is overrated..lol.

q
Posted 6/6/2013 5:05 AM (GMT 0)
actually Heather, about 3 weeks ago, i cheated a bit and had pizza with gluten free crust at Abby's Pizza - it's a chain in washington and oregon - it was absolutely delicious ! i will definitely have that one again - so i'm not so deprived after all :-)

but thanks for thinking of me - i will not be eating corn chips anytime soon :-(

although the same mexican restaurant we go to, also does an awesome flan - my wife turned me onto that about two months ago - for now anyway, it's a more than adequate replacement for the chips - not sure how it would mate up with the salsa tho ?

Posted 6/6/2013 8:53 AM (GMT 0)
i think i have finally come to the conclusion that the whole.. you can cure this illness through diet is a load of bull crap.

Think about it - UC is an auto immune disease and to some UC up in a nutshell our immune system is attacking the colon causing inflammation, its not our diet we have to sort out its our messed up immune systems... when i have a flare and have to take pred i can literally eat anything i want that is because the pred is protecting my colon from my immune system attacking it giving it time for the ulcers to heal, so effectively i have a normal colon for a while. once in a flare i could do all this paleo and SCD and it doesnt really make a difference i will still pass blood and all the other nasty stuff that comes with it.

I think you need to look at it from a different angle and say what can i do to stop my immune system from attacking me... could it be adrenal support? could it be chinese meds that help with immune disfunction??? i dont know but what i do know is if you sit back and think about it what has food got to do with altering the immune system.

Fair enough eating fatty or spicy foods arent going to help because lets face it they are going to give people with normal bowels digestive problems, but all these books on diets and how to cure UC through them in my personal oppinion is someone who has thought i can make some money out of this through selling books, diets, miracle cures etc because they know people are desperate to get better and will buy into it, and ill be honest i am one of these suckers ill try anything to get better but im starting to realise i will probably have to rely on drugs from the hospital.

Anyway sorry for the essay but thats my oppinion.

Cheers
Posted 6/6/2013 9:38 AM (GMT 0)
Derby, I'm not sure diet can cure UC but I believe it can help manage remission. I'm in a good place right now with a healthy diet but I'd say that if I ate junk food for a week with sugary soft drinks, caffeine and booze then I'm pretty confident I could bring on a flare. So by that logic I'd say diet is an important element.

I also believe that we can alter our immune systems through diet, as much of our immune system is the actual bacterial colonies in our gut. So what we eat feeds or affects their growth or overgrowth. And as I understand it certain pathogens that cause immune responses can get overgrown if we feed them the wrong stuff
Posted 6/6/2013 9:59 AM (GMT 0)
Jimbo NZ - i agree what your saying to a point, of course sitting eating that sort of stuff for a week would give you digestive problems, but lets be honest if anyone healthy or unhealthy sat and did that im sure they would have some sort of digestive problem as a result i.e the runs.

Of course use common sense and listen to your body but the fact of the matter is its not the food hurting you its your own immune system, thats the whole reason for drugs such azathaprine (imuran) and remicade to try and calm it down.

your point about the bacteria overgrowing i feel the best way to combat that is a maintenace dose of probiotics and products like wheat grass to sort of detox the system, if im honest thats the first time i have heard the bacteria can effect the immune system but if thats the case ill think about then when tryin my next miracle cure :-)
Posted 6/6/2013 1:28 PM (GMT 0)

"i think i have finally come to the conclusion that the whole.. you can cure this illness through diet is a load of bull crap."

dc - where exactly has anyone talked about curing anything ?

Posted 6/6/2013 2:41 PM (GMT 0)
Soystud- ok if your going to be picky let me re phrase diet can put you into remission alone... in my personal oppinion and experience if in a bad flare.... impossible
Posted 6/6/2013 2:50 PM (GMT 0)
well then, i went through a bad flare in feb, out of bad flare, all w/o drugs - for me, very possible - for you, guess not -

so is it possible or impossible for others ?

and yes dc, i am very picky - always 100% real maple syrup on my gluten free waffles, never aunt jemima 100% fake syrup !
Posted 6/6/2013 2:57 PM (GMT 0)
fair play to you if you can do that, unfortunately not possible for me, maybe if i didnt have a full time job and bills to pay i could take my time and try and do it all natural but again not possible.

I personally now am researching how to alter the immune system using natural medicines/remedies because i firmly believe if i can calm my immune system down it will go along way in helping me and every other UC sufferer combatting the disease.

Thoughts?
Posted 6/6/2013 3:06 PM (GMT 0)
Hey soystud, what are the gluten free waffles you buy and which maple syrup. I also did a quick google check and this is the ingredients of gluten free waffles:

"Fluffy Gluten Free Waffles
Contributed by: customer Kerri Maynard
This recipe produced such light and fluffy waffles, the customer just had to share!

1 cup 1/2 GF All Purpose Baking Flour
2 tsp Baking Powder
1/2 tsp Baking Soda
1/2 tsp Salt
1/4 tsp Stevia (or 1 Tb Sugar)
1 Tb Oil
3/4 cup Milk
4 Eggs, separated
1 tsp Vanilla
"

are we allowed milk? oh wait, maybe your not on scd,
Posted 6/6/2013 3:08 PM (GMT 0)
yup, i agree - life circumstances play a big part in healing options - i'm very fortunate that my situation allowed me the time to deal with a nasty flare w'o having to rely on drugs -

as far as what causes uc ? immune system gone haywire ? absolutely - but why ? i'll leave that to the smart folks like you to figure out - me, i'm gonna go have me a nice plate of gf waffles !

good luck dc - i hope you can find some answers - too many people suffering !
Posted 6/6/2013 7:30 PM (GMT 0)
I love all the responses to this thread it is pretty awesome lol. Yes soy stud I am curious of these waffles you eat as well. I thought you were grain free?
Posted 6/6/2013 7:33 PM (GMT 0)
ssssshhhhhhhh chrissy - my butt has rears !
Posted 6/6/2013 7:35 PM (GMT 0)
"maybe your not on scd,"


i am, sorta, but it aint your momma's scd :-)
Posted 6/6/2013 7:37 PM (GMT 0)
"what are the gluten free waffles you buy and which maple syrup"

i'll get back to you re the waffles -

syrup, most any as long as it's the real stuff - i haven't really detected any difference between brands -
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