Posted 11/2/2013 9:18 AM (GMT 0)
This might be of some assistance to you:
"In August I wrote about our experience with histamine and depression, but in the last couple of months I have figured out that I didn't have it quite right. I thought that he was having problems because of low copper, and his copper probably was contributing a little, but now I really have the answers.
Over two years ago my son started having problems after having had antibiotics. I realize now that his gut dysbiosis made it so that he doesn't absorb proteins very well. He became deficient in methionine, the amino acid precursor to SAMe, which is used to donate a methyl group to histamine in order to degrade the histamine. He also has a few mutations in his methylation cycle that probably have contributed to his problems, but the main problem is that, even though GAPS is a diet high in methionine, his methionine levels are not high enough to make enough SAMe to get rid of the histamine. A year ago I had him tested for the MTHFR gene mutations and he was positive for the MTHFR 677 gene and we started him on methylfolate and he felt better within a couple hours of having a 5 mg dose. However, although he was feeling better, it just was draining more homocysteine from his supply and he was in a downward spiral. I have also had him tested by 23andme recently and he has CBS C699T +/- and A360A +/+ which were probably draining his homocysteine levels at a higher rate, too, so after a few months he started feeling worse and worse, and I kept finding ways to deal with the symptoms, like taking lots of vitamin C. I started giving him methyl B12 about a week ago and it was like magic. He felt so great! But after 2 or 3 hours he would have to take more and after a couple days of this it wasn't working any more. I realize now that this is because MTR, which uses methylfolate to change homocysteine into methionine, has feedback inhibition from low homocysteine and he was making less and less methionine synthase and slowing down his methylation cycle to a crawl.
Now he is feeling fine after taking enough methionine to replenish his supply of homocysteine. Eventually we hope that GAPS will heal his gut enough so that he will be able to absorb all the nutrients he needs, but he isn't there yet. But at least now he isn't getting any die off symptoms, when he used to get symptoms just from eating any food. "