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Posted 4/21/2014 7:25 PM (GMT 0)
Hi all,

I often ear that it's not good for us to eat foods that contains gluten.
So I eliminate pastas, bread, etc, from my diet.
But bread....bread.... that's so hard to live without.....
A french baguette...mmmmh... that's so delicious :)
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So I was wondering what was the safest kind of bread to eat, one that doesnt contain gluten of course.
There are several reciepes but I don't know the one to choose... So maybe you have one that is good and that is known to be ok for UC/Crohn ?

Thanks a lot

Jean, french amateur of bread !

Post Edited (jeanloup) : 4/21/2014 1:34:27 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/21/2014 7:38 PM (GMT 0)
Find out first if Gluten is an issue for you. It seems as though you are new to UC and to Healingwell, you will hear A LOT of stuff that is good/bad for people on this site for UC. Remember everybody is different and what helps and what hurts one person doesn't mean the same to you. I would say if bread hasn't caused you any issues I wouldn't neccessarily look to change that, maybe just cut back on it and keep it in moderation. I know for me I don't have any gluten, lactose or histamine issues either for that matter, but many do with UC. The best thing for you to do if you are just getting started on dieting with UC is to keep a food journal for several weeks to months and monitor what you eat and how the next day or two goes with it. Who knows maybe you just don't have to give up the french baguette.
Posted 4/21/2014 7:41 PM (GMT 0)
I use Udi's white bread to make some mean veggie-meat sandwiches.

Also, bought this rice and non-gmo corn pasta recently for the resistant starch. Throw on some tomato sauce, grate some cheese and zuchinni and you're golden. :D
Posted 4/21/2014 7:42 PM (GMT 0)
Well if you DONT have a gluten allergy, intolerance, or sensitivity.... there is no reason to cut gluten out of your diet.

I tried it, saw no improvement, got tested for celiac just to be sure... it was negative.

So I eat bread and pasta often.
gluten free pasta or oriental rice noodles can be yummy!
but gf bread... eh, I have a hard time palate-ing it.
and premade store selections are filled with sugars and crap to try to enhance the flavor.

So unless you've eliminated gluten from you diet, and seen drastic improvement. ... there's no reason to over limit your diet selection. We are all different! Not everyone improves on the same diet. :)
Posted 4/21/2014 7:43 PM (GMT 0)
In fact I don't have any intolerance to gluten, I can eat it, but many people (scientists too) say that foods containing gluten are very badly digested, they stick to the gut walls, and then the digestion is long and tiring for the body.
That's why I eliminate it from my daily meals. All the foods made from wheat are (or would be) bad for the guts.
Posted 4/21/2014 7:46 PM (GMT 0)

Guardian9 said...
I use Udi's white bread to make some mean veggie-meat sandwiches.

I would never even touch this kind of bread, it's full of garbage (XANTHAN GUM, etc)

But thanks for the suggestion :)
Posted 4/21/2014 7:50 PM (GMT 0)
If we want to get scientific, I don't think modern wheat can be given a free pass and absolved from some of our health problems anymore, particularly when it comes to some of the common inflammatory markers and reduction in IBS symptoms. I see zero issues with this dietary pursuit, as nothing but good things can come out of it.

Read up on wheat belly or grain brain on the perils of gluten/wheat. This recent study kind of vindicated everything they said about modern wheat. IMO, there is every reason to eliminate modern wheat from our diets, but it's a very tough decision to make and I had trouble with it as well.

My sensitivity tests showed no gluten issues, but I get reflux, congestion and brain fog symptoms after attempting to reintroduce it to my diet. My bowels can tolerate it, but I prefer not to eat it because it's pretty much empty calories.
Posted 4/21/2014 7:55 PM (GMT 0)

jeanloup said...

Guardian9 said...
I use Udi's white bread to make some mean veggie-meat sandwiches.

I would never even touch this kind of bread, it's full of garbage (XANTHAN GUM, etc)

But thanks for the suggestion :)

Everything you wanted to know about xanthan gum. Your decision should based on the available evidence on it, not my personal suggestion. :)

I'm not suggesting it as the main course, but rather something that can be eaten in a bind. It's certainly a better alternative to wheat IMO. I eat a few pieces here and there, but it's certainly not the main course of my meals (veggies, fruits, etc).

And you're very welcome for the suggestion. :)

Post Edited (Guardian9) : 4/21/2014 1:58:21 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/21/2014 7:59 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Guardian for the link about the study, will read this tonight :)

Concerning Udi's bread, I just took xanthan randomly, but just take a look at the ingredients list, this stuff is everything but bread... (at least in France this kind of product is considered as rubber or glu, not food)
Posted 4/21/2014 8:11 PM (GMT 0)
The reason I suggested this bread as opposed to the others is because they use vegetable starches (potato starch, tapioca) and brown rice, along with some fillers which I'm not particularly fond of but can tolerate in small amounts. I personally don't believe there there are good gluten free breads out there and it's best to just stick real foods if you are on a healing protocol, but I find this one to be the "middle ground" gf option where if you don't have the time to cook up a meal, it will get the job done and provide a nice base for sandwiches.

I think wheat is actually okay to eat in France though. They don't mess around there and produce nice, healthy and non-GMO food. :)

Post Edited (Guardian9) : 4/21/2014 2:23:52 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/21/2014 8:27 PM (GMT 0)
I don't tolerate wheat very well. It's not the gluten - I'm not coeliac. I eat rye bread - Russian or German style usually.
Posted 4/21/2014 8:45 PM (GMT 0)
Yes we have the chance to have GMO free wheat, but unfortunately it is also full of pesticides. France is the number 1 country that use chemical stuff to grow plants, cereals, fruits, etc.

UCyousee> rye is also a hard digestable cereal for the gut
Posted 4/21/2014 9:19 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not really sure why you even posted this question. If this is the way you believe and the way you live your life, why do you need any opinions here? You already know what it is you want.
Posted 4/21/2014 9:36 PM (GMT 0)

garylouisville said...
I'm not really sure why you even posted this question. If this is the way you believe and the way you live your life, why do you need any opinions here? You already know what it is you want.

I don't really understand your post...
If I opened this thread, it's to know what people use to replace their bread. That's all simple.
Of course I'm looking for something healthy/safe. I don't want to replace gluten by additives or chemical stuff.
Posted 4/21/2014 9:49 PM (GMT 0)
i make a coconut butter bread that is awesome. so fluffy and very flavorful and is delicious with a big smear of butter!

5 eggs
1/4 cup melted butter or coconut oil
1 cup + 2 Tbsp melted coconut butter
1/2 tsp sea salt
3/4 tsp baking soda

separate eggs into whites and yolks. beat the whites for a few minutes until fluffy. add egg yolks to blender and mix. add each ingredient into blender and mix after each addition. add whites at the end and mix. pour into 9 by 5 greased loaf pan and bake for 40-50 minutes at 300 F.

mine is always done in 40 minutes but check with a toothpick in the center of the bread to make sure.
Posted 4/21/2014 10:15 PM (GMT 0)

jeanloup said...
UCyousee> rye is also a hard digestable cereal for the gut

That's the thing about UC - we're all different, and can tolerate different foods. You asked what kind of bread we eat....well I eat rye!
Posted 4/21/2014 11:34 PM (GMT 0)
I eat any bread i like. I prefer sourdough but i love french baguettes too.
Posted 4/22/2014 12:45 AM (GMT 0)
I guess I just feel like if you have done your homework so well that you have decided not to eat gluten or stuff with additives or chemicals in it, then you should already know your choices. It's a strange combination to have already made those decisions and yet be asking for advice on what to eat. Unless, maybe you have not really done your homework on glutens, additives, and chemicals and are wanting to try out the fad, in which case maybe glutens, additives, and chemicals aren't really as bad as their hype.
Posted 4/22/2014 1:26 AM (GMT 0)
I'm ok with gluten but horrible with whole grain/high fibre. I like plain ol' white bread, best if bought from my favourite bakery tongue
Posted 4/22/2014 1:43 AM (GMT 0)
White bread or no visible hunks of grain. I had some grainy bread a few weeks ago that made me miserably bloated. I hate white sandwich bread, but I don't hate all white breads. I have oatmeal bread pretty often, but it is not gluten free. I haven't had any grain free bread that was really like the real thing, but there are some fairly good recipies out there now, if you're a baker at all.
Posted 4/22/2014 1:54 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Jean,
most gf breads will contain xanthum gum as a substitute for gluten because otherwise you can't get a fluffy rise from the yeast. Xanthum gum doesn't have the bad reputation for irritating the gut the way carageenan does. So I eat many different types of GF bread: Franz, Udi's, Rudi's or one of Pamela's bread mixes.
My favorite though, is the Gluten free pantry mix and it has guar gum instead of xanthum gum - maybe that would be more acceptable for you.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Gluten-Free-Pantry-French-Bread-And-Pizza-Mix-22-oz-Pack-of-6/17339148

Other than that, I eat home made tortillas using Bob's Redmill organic corn masa, OR if you are in the US and visit a Jimmy John's subway shop, you'll find that they make some wonderful Lettuce Wraps. It's basically the inside of a subway sandwich but they substitute iceberg lettuce for the bread. So there are options out there if you don't like "fake" bread. BTW I've been GF for about 30 years and never want to go back to gluten of any type.
Posted 4/22/2014 3:16 AM (GMT 0)
I didn't know wheat/gluten was a problem for me until I removed it all from my diet and saw my symptoms lessen. Udi's white bread is the best substitute I've found but I'm still planning to make some home-made bread when some free time arrives (wishful thinking).

Nothing in Udi's irritates my gut at all and I've also used xanthan gum in some muffin recipes.
Some gluten-free flour substitutes are not gut-friendly for me, such as garbanzo bean flour.
Probably too much fiber is my guess.

Removing bread from my diet took a lot of thought in the beginning because frankly a lot of our normal meals revolve around wheat products (sandwiches, pasta, etc). My gut is so much better without wheat I can't imagine taking the risk of eating it again.
Posted 4/22/2014 4:10 AM (GMT 0)
I have celiac, so I am supposed to remain GF. I have dramatically cut back on "bread" consumption, but when I HAVE TO HAVE IT I like Udi's. They even make baguettes. I'm not scare of xanthan gum in the least. Carrageenan...now that's a different story.
Posted 4/22/2014 2:59 PM (GMT 0)
I don't eat high fibre whole grain breads...absolute discomfort down the pipe eventually.

I eat rye bread on a daily basis...I have no problem with gluten.

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Posted 4/22/2014 4:00 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks to all of you for your suggestion, and thanks to babanagirl to have share your recipe, I will talk about it to my wife :)

All the best
Jean
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