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Posted 6/3/2014 11:32 PM (GMT 0)
4 Superfoods That Are Not Paleo

The point to take home?

If you enjoy a food, get good results eating it and science has shown it to be healthy, then avoiding it just because it isn’t “paleo” according to some narrow definition of what that means, is ridiculous.
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Humans evolved eating real food… plain and simple. That’s what we should be focusing on.

Although *loose* dietary guidelines are important, I believe people get faster results if they listen to their guts. The science is obviously important, but so are personal results. As I always say, n=1 beats anything white coats spew at us about medications or foods. :)

I'm not sure if I could do without dark chocolate, raw dairy or potatoes, but nice to see the some science backing up those foods.

I hate to see people starving and then depriving themselves of good food like potatoes and rice... So many recent threads of this happening unfortunately.

My personal rule of thumb these days is: Just eat real food or J.E.R.F. Easy diet to follow and very few restrictions (gluten, trans fats, vegetable oils, etc).

Best.
Posted 6/4/2014 12:13 AM (GMT 0)
I agree, my gut rules. It's really hard however to describe my diet in a brief way and even though I am not "Paleo" it comes closest.

But… I eat cheese, drink milk, eat butter, eat potatoes, drink half-caff coffee. Real chocolate however equals IBS for me, too strong. Cheap chocolate in small doses is better for me, sadly.

Weirdly rice is a problem for me. I know it sounds strange but I've tested it several times and there is no doubt about it. I LOVE rice in all forms but gut says no. Wild rice is OK (not really rice--it's a grass). Totally weird, what could rice have that my gut objects to? (Yeah I read about possible arsenic but could that be it?)
Posted 6/4/2014 12:27 AM (GMT 0)
Hey imagardner -

Is it brown rice that is problematic or any kind of rice? I had issues with brown rice when I was flaring, and I mostly stick to white rice these days.

As for arsenic, it is very concerning but they found negligible amounts in the organic varieties grown in California. I think imported rice presents many issues.

Best.
Posted 6/4/2014 12:38 AM (GMT 0)
I probably wouldn't be considered 'Paleo'. I eat potatoes. Any kind of tater, really.
Posted 6/4/2014 1:42 AM (GMT 0)
Is it brown rice that is problematic or any kind of rice? I had issues with brown rice when I was flaring, and I mostly stick to white rice these days.

White rice is the problem for me. I haven't had brown rice in years due to fiber. Rice is so nice I wish I could eat it and have with a grumpy gut as a result. I was only able to pinpoint rice after all the other problem foods were out of the picture.

Really hard for me to believe that it was the source of IBS but no doubt in my mind or gut. Crazy weird. I am able to eat Udi's White bread which has some white rice flour in it I think.
I don't think I ever had organic white rice however.
Posted 6/4/2014 1:45 AM (GMT 0)
I had to modify paleo to find a good balance. I eat real food. Make the foods myself, avoiding 99% of all processed pre fab foods. I eat white rice, all potatoes and white flour. These things agree with my guts. I can't eat fruit really, insoluble fibre or anything whole grain or whole wheat. Paleo was too restrictive with my other known offending foods (mostly high fodmap things) but I think paleo was a good test and really made me aware of additives and eating real food.
Posted 6/4/2014 2:35 AM (GMT 0)
This thread is making me hungry. :) I like the reference to the Perfect Health Diet in the article...I searched Google and enjoyed reading about it.

I am on the SCD, and I do think it helps me, but there are foods I miss. I really miss dark chocolate (Lindt 90%), sweet potatoes and potatoes. I have been able to do well on the SCD without losing weight because I can tolerate all legal foods except dairy and raw fruits and raw vegetables. I can see why it would be very difficult for those who can't tolerate as many legal foods as me.

imagardener2, I saw your post in another thread about your reasons for deviating from SCD and I can relate to your experience. I can't tolerate dairy right now, so I make homemade almond milk yogurt w/honey. But I also have a small amount of almond milk in my morning cup of black tea and then as a snack later in the day I have pumpkin custard with cashew cream. I also sometimes have a cookie made with almond flour, or have a sandwich on cashew butter "bread". It's hard to tell how much is too much when it comes to nuts since they are ground! Did you give up nuts entirely? Or if you cut back, how much did you cut back? I am experiencing constipation like you were so it would help me to hear more about your experience. Also, I don't eat a lot of fruit, but I usually have a small banana every day. Sometimes I'll eat a few prunes because they sort of help with the constipation. Thanks!
Posted 6/4/2014 2:37 AM (GMT 0)
hmmm, since the only diet I ever adhered to was vegan, I've really looked at paleo that close - I always thought it was mostly everything but grains - didn't realize dairy was a no-no ?

huh ! guess I'm screwed smhair
Posted 6/4/2014 2:59 AM (GMT 0)
soystud, same here!! i was like "i thought all these foods were paleo." the paleo blogs i get recipes from ALWAYS have grass fed dairy, potatoes, chocolate and coffee.
Posted 6/4/2014 12:14 PM (GMT 0)
But that's the thing - I don't believe there is a strict definition of "paleo" yet. I think Lorain Cordain is one of those "hardcore" types and eschews just about everything that doesn't agree with his particular template. I think the term "paleo" just means a no-nonsense diet these days.

There's no way we can say with certainty what they ate back then. What we do know is that they didn't eat garbage like industrial oils or trans-fats (no machinery), or copious amounts of sugar, but all bets are off for things like potatoes. Potatoes are just as paleo as sweet potatoes are. Rice and dairy have been around for thousands of years as well, but the surge in chronic disease rates is only recent.

Chris Masterjohn lectured about this a few years ago @ AHS. This could explain why some do well on low-carb diets:

Chris had a superb presentation of his doctoral research on carbohydrate metabolism, oxidative stress, and insulin resistance. He explained that humans have several more copies of salivary amylase genes than non-human primates, which suggests that we are all adapted to starch digestion, but the capacity to digest starch varies from population to population. Some people are far more capable of starch digestion and metabolism than others, but when any individual begins to express more amylase gene, their pancreas produces more insulin before the glucose has even entered the bloodstream, reducing the overall blood glucose response as well as the total insulin release when carbohydrate is ingested. This is probably a good reason to chew your food well, particularly when you’re eating carbohydrate, to allow for adequate amylase activity and insulin response.

Best.
Posted 6/4/2014 1:48 PM (GMT 0)
And did you know that the EU has all but banned the term 'superfood'? There's no such thing as a superfood and I'm glad to see the EU fighting back against false claims.

I'm in agreement; any healthy food that agrees with your system is a food you should continue to eat.

Sue
Posted 6/4/2014 1:54 PM (GMT 0)
As far as i know all these foods are paleo except for white potatoes. Having said that, there are now many versions of the Paleo diet. I personally like Mark Scisson's because he seems open-minded and always researching new additions to the diet and approving them if ok.
Potatoes are ok though. But seriously Paleo can be simply a gluten free, organic, grass fed dairy/meat diet. And it can be as strict as GAPS. It depends how far you want to take it.
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