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Posted 8/1/2014 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
I am on a low carb, sugar free diet that recommends lots of good fats such as coconut oil, olive oil, real butter etc. I am wondering if this is not recommended for UC? I had my scope on Wednesday and felt great since with no UC symptoms other than one loose BM. I had a lot of coconut oil today and now have a lot of mucus again. Coincidence or should I avoid fat?
Posted 8/1/2014 6:12 PM (GMT 0)

thefoodeagle said...
Very good for UC.

Tom

Sorry, just to make sure I understand. Are you saying good fat is GOOD for UC or to avoid fat is good?
Posted 8/1/2014 6:32 PM (GMT 0)
The sort of fats you mention are said to be good for UC. Olive oil - good omega balance, Coconut - anti bacterial, butter - butyrate producing

Maybe you just had too much coconut oil?
Posted 8/1/2014 6:34 PM (GMT 0)

London Lurker said...
The sort of fats you mention are said to be good for UC. Olive oil - good omega balance, Coconut - anti bacterial, butter - butyrate producing

Maybe you just had too much coconut oil?

Yeah, think I just over did it. Can be hard to tell between mucus and just too much fat. Boy, this is one humbling disease. redface
Posted 8/1/2014 6:59 PM (GMT 0)

thefoodeagle said...

Jean123! said...

thefoodeagle said...
Very good for UC.

Tom

Sorry, just to make sure I understand. Are you saying good fat is GOOD for UC or to avoid fat is good?

Fats are important - consume mainly animal fats
Please only use extra Virgin cold pressed olive oil.

Some people cannot tolerate coconut products.

Tom

Thanks!
Posted 8/1/2014 7:17 PM (GMT 0)
Just because the experts deem it good, doesn't mean it agrees.

It sounds as though you're still flaring since you're starting the mesalamine enemas.

Fish oil might be too rich as well as digestive enzymes. So, maybe cut back on some things.

Regarding the sugar-free..hopefully, you're not replacing it with artificial sweeteners.

q
Posted 8/1/2014 7:22 PM (GMT 0)
In general, greasy foods are not good, but you need to see what you tolerate and not go for "blanket" advice. Fat is important and generally good for you, but a messed up digestive system will have problems with certain foods from time to time... Also, typically omega 3 fatty acids are anti-inflammatory, and omega 6's are pro inflammatory, so if you can afford it stick with grass fed free range eggs, dairy and meats, wild fish (not farm raised), and olive oil is good too (which is not high in omega 3s). Chia oil is expensive but very good as well, and high in omega 3s and antioxidants. I even used it as an enema with seemingly good results. Don't cook with it, but its a good oil for other stuff.
Posted 8/1/2014 7:25 PM (GMT 0)

quincy said...
Just because the experts deem it good, doesn't mean it agrees.

It sounds as though you're still flaring since you're starting the mesalamine enemas.

Fish oil might be too rich as well as digestive enzymes. So, maybe cut back on some things.

Regarding the sugar-free..hopefully, you're not replacing it with artificial sweeteners.

q

I use stevia or Erythritol.
Posted 8/1/2014 7:26 PM (GMT 0)

freddyj said...
In general, greasy foods are not good, but you need to see what you tolerate and not go for "blanket" advice. Fat is important and generally good for you, but a messed up digestive system will have problems with certain foods from time to time... Also, typically omega 3 fatty acids are anti-inflammatory, and omega 6's are pro inflammatory, so if you can afford it stick with grass fed free range eggs, dairy and meats, wild fish (not farm raised), and olive oil is good too (which is not high in omega 3s). Chia oil is expensive but very good as well, and high in omega 3s and antioxidants. I even used it as an enema with seemingly good results. Don't cook with it, but its a good oil for other stuff.

We buy raw milk and eggs from a farm. I am working on buying grass fed beef. For now we eat lean ground turkey and chicken breast. Any fish is wild caught Alaskan salmon.
Posted 8/1/2014 8:22 PM (GMT 0)

Tom73 said...

Jean123! said...

freddyj said...
In general, greasy foods are not good, but you need to see what you tolerate and not go for "blanket" advice. Fat is important and generally good for you, but a messed up digestive system will have problems with certain foods from time to time... Also, typically omega 3 fatty acids are anti-inflammatory, and omega 6's are pro inflammatory, so if you can afford it stick with grass fed free range eggs, dairy and meats, wild fish (not farm raised), and olive oil is good too (which is not high in omega 3s). Chia oil is expensive but very good as well, and high in omega 3s and antioxidants. I even used it as an enema with seemingly good results. Don't cook with it, but its a good oil for other stuff.

We buy raw milk and eggs from a farm. I am working on buying grass fed beef. For now we eat lean ground turkey and chicken breast. Any fish is wild caught Alaskan salmon.

Raw milk is amazing for you.. If your digestive tract can handle disaccharides. Wild salmon is amazing - look for pacific wild sockeye salmon.

I don't drink too much milk but my plan is to start making yogurt again ( I got lazy and have been buying store bought) and kefir.
Posted 8/1/2014 8:30 PM (GMT 0)
"You can't grass feed a chicken, they are evolved to eat grain. Look for pasture fed!"

I don't know what kind of pastures you have, but mine are all made of ............ GRASS !

??????
Posted 8/1/2014 8:41 PM (GMT 0)
Be careful about dieting. I find it aggravates my colitis. Take it slowly.
Posted 8/1/2014 8:41 PM (GMT 0)

Tom73 said...

soystud said...
"You can't grass feed a chicken, they are evolved to eat grain. Look for pasture fed!"

I don't know what kind of pastures you have, but mine are all made of ............ GRASS !

??????

By definition pasture fed means that the animal is outdoor on the pasture. Chickens are opportunist and so will eat worms, vegetables, fruit if available. Several breeds of egg laying chickens cannot survive on pasture alone unless they have a very large area each , since bugs and insects will be in the minority. Therefore they are fed grain or corn.

We had acreage and had chickens that were free range, but still had to supplement with chicken feed.
Posted 8/1/2014 8:42 PM (GMT 0)

bettylou said...
Be careful about dieting. I find it aggravates my colitis. Take it slowly.

The diet we are on is a slow weight loss/healthy eating and not a quick solution. Hard to be patient at times but I know this is best for health.
Posted 8/1/2014 9:04 PM (GMT 0)
Whenever there are threads about what was happening when people first got UC, there are always some who found it started after they started a healthy eating diet so yes, go slowly with diet changes, the body takes time to adapt
Posted 8/1/2014 9:11 PM (GMT 0)

Tom73 said...

Jean123! said...

bettylou said...
Be careful about dieting. I find it aggravates my colitis. Take it slowly.

The diet we are on is a slow weight loss/healthy eating and not a quick solution. Hard to be patient at times but I know this is best for health.

Jean -- In regards to your coconut problem -- look at sorbitol
What probiotics are you taking? I like to use soil based organisms - prescript assist
Thanks

Right now I am using one from the HFS. I am going to order VSL#3 next week.
Posted 8/1/2014 9:11 PM (GMT 0)

Tom73 said...

London Lurker said...
Whenever there are threads about what was happening when people first got UC, there are always some who found it started after they started a healthy eating diet so yes, go slowly with diet changes, the body takes time to adapt

I agree to some degree. For example, suddenly eating lots of eggs when you can't tolerate the whites could be the 'straw that breaks the camels back'

Thanks

Good point.
Posted 8/1/2014 9:12 PM (GMT 0)

London Lurker said...
Whenever there are threads about what was happening when people first got UC, there are always some who found it started after they started a healthy eating diet so yes, go slowly with diet changes, the body takes time to adapt

I will try to remember this. I feel so panicked I just want to try everything to make it get better. sigh.
Posted 8/1/2014 11:22 PM (GMT 0)
i follow a low carb and high fat diet. it works for me. i just made a gorgeous batch of pork rinds with fresh pig skin from the butcher. made ranch and bbq flavors! fat is my favorite food group.
Posted 8/1/2014 11:25 PM (GMT 0)

bananagirl said...
i follow a low carb and high fat diet. it works for me. i just made a gorgeous batch of pork rinds with fresh pig skin from the butcher. made ranch and bbq flavors! fat is my favorite food group.

Yum!!
Posted 8/2/2014 3:53 AM (GMT 0)

Tom73 said...


Fats are important - consume mainly animal fats
Please only use extra Virgin cold pressed olive oil.

Some people cannot tolerate coconut products.

Tom

Just curious why only EVOO? I make my own mayo and use regular light olive oil because it tastes better (IMO).
Posted 8/2/2014 12:45 PM (GMT 0)

Tom73 said...

Jean123! said...

London Lurker said...
Whenever there are threads about what was happening when people first got UC, there are always some who found it started after they started a healthy eating diet so yes, go slowly with diet changes, the body takes time to adapt

I will try to remember this. I feel so panicked I just want to try everything to make it get better. sigh.

Jean, Ginger is excellent for UC, it is a natural prokinetic agent to stimulate the migrating motor complex and has over 500 components, many of which are anti inflammatory.

I recommend that you do not drink the liquid milk straight. 24h yogurt or kefir is best for GI problems. Just because it's raw milk doesn't mean it's suitable for everyone :)

Thanks again!
Posted 8/2/2014 2:18 PM (GMT 0)
would have to disagree on the sunflower oil. High in Omega 6 and a longitudinal study in Scandinavia found that a high sunflower oil diet seemed to correlate with higher incidence of UC.

I read something recently about pork rind being very high in some nutrients that are good, can't remember which though! Trouble is, the ones you can buy here that are commercially produced are full of MSG.
Posted 8/2/2014 3:53 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting: Do you mean Tom that the method of extraction would improve the ratio or are you balancing it with having another Omega 3 source alongside?
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