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Posted 10/30/2014 4:03 AM (GMT 0)
I'm now 8 days past my scheduled Remicade infusion, that I skipped to see if I can get rid of the awful pains I associate with it. Now that I'm off the medicine, I've had to remember how to live more cautiously. No more root beer floats, no more salads...

I'm just curious if you guys know the "Why" to why we can't tolerate things like this? I assume vegetables are too fibrous... I can tolerate some cooked, but not much raw. As far as sweets go, I don't really know why they would make my gut so active. I can tolerate breads, just not extremely concentrated sweets.
Posted 10/30/2014 6:15 AM (GMT 0)
The sweets seem to get me too. I am having sweets withdrawal. It's been a few days since I had any candy and I am almost unable to resist the temptation but I have to try and I keep reminding myself that I have to start somewhere. I keep thinking I can start over tomorrow and then i have to say NO, keep with the plan. Uhh, I would kill for some candy, I am substituting with fruit.
Posted 10/30/2014 11:24 AM (GMT 0)
I've been off sugar (and coffee and every other good thing) for nearly 2 years now. It doesn't seem to have done any good at all.

If a good diet would keep you from getting this disease I would not have gotten it. I've never in my whole life had a poor diet. My parents went "back to nature" and we grew our own food and ate unrefined organic before it was cool.

But Ashkenaz Jewish genetics (and Scandinavian on the other side, the nation with the highest incidence of IBD) trumped good diet and here I am.

It's like this: Wearing scratchy clothes won't give you a sunburn. Not wearing scratchy clothes will not prevent you from getting a sunburn. But it really hurts to wear scratchy clothes while you have a sunburn.

I've seen pictures of my colon. It looks like really bad peeling blistered sunburn. Fiber seems like a bad idea. And I can see avoiding things that are acidic. I can see that it's not gonna do its job looking like that. It wants any milky thing out immediately, including goat milk and Greek yogurt.

I just bought some Rice Dreams mint carob chip "ice cream." I tried a few little spoonfuls and it was wonderful and nothing bad has happened yet.
Posted 10/30/2014 11:36 AM (GMT 0)
Raw food is more difficult to digest than cooked food. The process of cooking begins to break down the bonds holding together molecules within our food, saving our digestive sytem both time and energy. Cooking breaks down the bonds in both meats and vegetables.

Not a clue on sugary foods.
Posted 10/30/2014 11:49 AM (GMT 0)
speak for your own picky colon T-man ;-)
Posted 10/30/2014 3:18 PM (GMT 0)
I think the thing with sugary foods is the bacteria they feed in your gut. Since we don't have as much diversity as a normal person then in some cases this could feed the wrong bacteria and throw our guts even more out of balance. I gave up all sweets once for three weeks but it made no difference in me, which gave me a sigh of relief. I think it just depends on your microbial makeup and how the sugar reacts with it. 50 - 100 years from now they will have individual treatment plans for all of us, depending on the microbial population we have.
Posted 10/30/2014 4:26 PM (GMT 0)

garylouisville said...
50 - 100 years from now they will have individual treatment plans for all of us, depending on the microbial population we have.

Can they just freeze me in a timecapsule and wake me up when they've cure uc, because uc really p!sses me off and I hate waiting ... lol
Posted 10/30/2014 4:27 PM (GMT 0)
I know I ain't got 50 years.
Posted 10/30/2014 7:23 PM (GMT 0)
I found a candy bar that agrees with my gut!
It's Candy Farm 3 color coconut candy .
All coconut , no chocolate covering , very easy to digest and no problems with my UC.
I bought mine in a Cracker Barrel resturant
Candy made in USA, no junky fillers .

Try one yummy!!! turn
Posted 10/30/2014 8:12 PM (GMT 0)

garylouisville said...
I think the thing with sugary foods is the bacteria they feed in your gut. Since we don't have as much diversity as a normal person then in some cases this could feed the wrong bacteria and throw our guts even more out of balance. I gave up all sweets once for three weeks but it made no difference in me, which gave me a sigh of relief. I think it just depends on your microbial makeup and how the sugar reacts with it. 50 - 100 years from now they will have individual treatment plans for all of us, depending on the microbial population we have.

I agree with gary about the sweets causing the wrong microbes to bloom. But dense carbs (e.g., bread) should work the same way. So some piece of the puzzle is missing here.

I am also more optimistic that we will have individual treatments in closer to a decade than 5 or 10 decades.

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The raw vegetable is a combination of fiber being high residue, and many vegetables are gassy.

Post Edited (DBwithUC) : 10/30/2014 7:25:33 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/31/2014 12:17 AM (GMT 0)
While I was flaring I could eat three things that didn't make me want to die: plain grilled chicken, scrambled eggs and chocolate cake. Sugar didn't effect me at all.
Posted 10/31/2014 12:25 AM (GMT 0)
Don't have any issues with cooked veggies. We grow, steam most and eat alot of them. By saying no issues I simply mean I get no more symptoms eating them vs not eating them. I eat raw spinach with no extra problems either. Don't eat alot of sweets to start with.
Posted 10/31/2014 1:14 AM (GMT 0)
See, that's weird that you're ok with bread but not sweets. I'm with you on the raw veg, can't tolerate that...but cooked is ok.
Posted 10/31/2014 1:41 AM (GMT 0)
Refined sugar is an inflammatory due to the increased bacteria issues they can cause and even many people that don't have IBD or IBS can have issues with refined sugar bugging their guts.
Posted 10/31/2014 2:19 AM (GMT 0)
I'm not sure why you cant tolerate sweet things, but my theory is that when you have UC your gut becomes super sensitive, and from what I have read lately sugar is really not good for people, and so your gut knows this even before you do, ha ha!

Anyway, in my quest to banish the evil candida I have not touched anything with sugar in it now for over a week, my sugar craving has gone, and my eyes are looking clearer..

I plan on sticking with my harsh regime for a month, which means no alcohol, no fruit, no sweets, no breads or carbohydrates, like rice and potatoes...then and only then will I introduce some things slowly, but I don't think I will EVER want to eat sweets again like I have been doing, it has really messed me up big time...the good news is that my head is clearing, I was opening my mouth to say one thing and something entirely different came out...I kid you not!
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