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Chrissysoul
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Posted 11/2/2014 5:59 AM (GMT 0)
So I was having this conversation about
my uc with my mom, which is never the best, and I stated that if it came down to it, I would be ok to have a bag. Instead of uc. Well she disagrees and thinks I should never have surgery. It's hard sometimes with people not understanding daily life with uc. she said I would hate the bag. Maybe so. But it's better than crapping my pants all day.
embersglow1
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Posted 11/2/2014 7:04 AM (GMT 0)
I love my bag!
My family has not been very involved in my UC days. They definitely did NOT understand my life with it!
But once I decided on major surgery and got it - they finally figured out it was a big deal living with UC. So much thatd id rather change my anatomy than deal with it anymore.
Im not sure how old you are - but it doesnt matter what your mom says. Or your dad. Brother. Sister. Grandma. Mother in law. Aunts or uncles.
All that matters is YOUR quality of life.
Tunnelvisionary
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Posted 11/2/2014 9:00 AM (GMT 0)
Yeah, I don't know where family gets off thinking they can make major decisions about
your life for you when it comes to UC. My dad tried to talk about
me getting my colon removed over text and it's not the kind of text you want to read when you are just trying to get through your day. Told him that I don't talk about
removing my organs over text. Yeesh.
TroubledTurds
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Posted 11/2/2014 12:24 PM (GMT 0)
tell your mom that if she wants to continue receiving free hair styling, to shut her pie hole !
Post Edited (soystud) : 11/2/2014 5:51:31 AM (GMT-7)
garylouisville
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Posted 11/2/2014 12:46 PM (GMT 0)
How does she feel about
you dying from colon cancer?
jujub
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Posted 11/2/2014 1:08 PM (GMT 0)
I know she's trying to help, but she has never walked in your shoes. Did she hate her bag when she had one? Obviously not, because she never had one. She also never had UC.
Sometimes the best response can be just "Thanks for your concern, mom. When I decide what's best for me I'll let you know."
Chrissysoul
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Posted 11/2/2014 3:03 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the responses guys. Haha Soystud that's awesome. Yeah, I appreciate the concern but seriously it stresses me out when her and my sis are making it sound like it's not ok if I got surgery. But for real they don't understand. So it's just really frustrating because I feel like pressured to get into remission. They always talk to me about
how I should be doing natural methods and seriously I personally love imuran. I don't feel like I should have to treat my uc how they think. And yeah!!! Until you know what it's like to poop your pants all the time you really can't make a comment about
"well you should just stick to your diet" blah.
Thanks for the support tho guys that's whAt I wanted to hear back :)
Chrissysoul
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Posted 11/2/2014 3:05 PM (GMT 0)
Embers glow- I'm happy you like the bag :) it probably is way better than before!!
notsosicklygirl
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Posted 11/2/2014 3:36 PM (GMT 0)
I am sure my family would react the same way. Precisely why I don't tell them anything anymore. I think they really need to
open their minds and do some research to understand what you go through on a daily basis before they judge. Obviously they must not understand how hard it is. You have to do what's best for you and take their advice for what it is, uninformed. It's nice that they want the best for you and that they care about
you a ton. I am sure if you decide to have surgery they will accept it and be there for you.
MariaMaria
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Posted 11/2/2014 5:43 PM (GMT 0)
Hah, I have the same problem but different - my mom won't stop urging me to get surgery. She even came with me to a doctors appointment once and tried and convince the doctor to give me the surgery! He told her what I've been saying all along - it's not the right decision for me right now, my meds are quite effective for my current condition.
We have a family friend who had bad Crohn's disease who says surgery saved his life and he's never been happier, so she wants the same for me. I think parent's just try and help but they don't necessarily know what they're talking about
. After meeting my doctor she became more understanding. Maybe hearing the opinion of a medical professional would help your mother understand too.
Chrissysoul
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Posted 11/2/2014 6:16 PM (GMT 0)
Maria- yeah that is definitely a possibility. I think she does has it in her heAd that diseases are solved naturally and not with medicine. But honestly I just can't commit to the natural stuff at this point. And I like meds lol. Maybe a doctor talking to her would help tho
pb4
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Posted 11/2/2014 6:26 PM (GMT 0)
about
9 years ago my mother in law had a perforated bowel (likely from her diverticulosis) and she wore a bag for about
a year and to this day (she still has tummy troubles) she always says how much better she felt with the bag on (kinda like she's trying to coax me into getting a bag for my crohn's colitis---which is in remission, now just dealing with annoying IBS alternating D and C) so every time she brings it up I keep telling her to go ahead and get the bag again, then she stops mentioning it for a while.
People are definitely fricken annoying with "their" suggestions they try to push onto others.
iPoop
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Posted 11/3/2014 12:15 AM (GMT 0)
Chrissy, you know better than to listen to normies lol. My parents are generally well informed, as they've been to number of my GI appointments. Haven't been in a while bit have over the years when I was doing poorly. There is some advantage to educating them, but it can invite nosiness and meddling.
Poppie
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Posted 11/3/2014 1:17 AM (GMT 0)
Actually I'm not sure how people, even family members can give informed advice on something as important like this.
Personally I don't really talk to my mum very often, she has a way of upsetting me, and that's even before the subject of UC even arises...its a shame, but some people get the short straw when it comes to parents.
Chrissysoul
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Posted 11/3/2014 1:56 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks guys yeah it's hard with uc Cuz It feels like a different world than normal people and they just can't relate.
Dr-A
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Posted 11/3/2014 3:46 AM (GMT 0)
It's not something they can even comprehend. You can't understand the mental and physical stress this disease puts on you. Impossible. Even new people with UC don't get it. See it in posts here. I didn't come to my breaking point on surgery until I went 4 months with no sleep. That was 8 years into my disease.
You should send them to this forum if they would like an idea of what this disease is.
beatUC
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Posted 11/3/2014 1:04 PM (GMT 0)
Family can be a pain, very judgmental. Just go with your gut but make sure you do your research so you know what your getting into with surgery. Best of luck to you.
garylouisville
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Posted 11/3/2014 1:23 PM (GMT 0)
Just to be on your mother's side for a microsecond, there are many who are members here who would hold on to their colons through thick and thin, no matter what, and would refuse to have a bag (or other). Everyone has their own preferences (including those of us with the disease) but when you don't have the disease yourself, empathy is all but gone. It's possible that if she were in your shoes she might be one of those who would fight surgery until the end of the Earth. Maybe you're being too hard on her but, in the end, this your life and your decision.
Katmom
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Posted 11/3/2014 2:40 PM (GMT 0)
We all have to wrap our heads around this at different speeds. I tried to learn everything I could( granted I meddled because my d was only 15 and in denial early on). Maybe you should point your mom to a site with as much variety as this one. As a mom, I wanted desperately to see examples of healing from natural or food alternatives. It was not to be. As Gary said, I couldn't lose her...either to the mental exhaustion,physical pain, or future cancer. Your mom probably just doesn't understand, and who could? It is complex, with unknown causes,100+ genes linking it, put in submission occasionally(thanks Soy) by unknown forces, gets better or worse when you don't know if you have changed anything....
The decision for surgery got easier, but I was coming around to it a year ago and my d said just recently," if you told me 2 months before surgery that I'd do it, I wouldn't have believed it". Shocked me that as sick as she was, she was just arriving at what I thought was a fore gone conclusion. Be patient with her, and only approach surgery if/when you and your GI concur. It's not a mom's decision, even Katmom's!
ks1905
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Posted 11/3/2014 6:13 PM (GMT 0)
I didn't even know about
surgery when I first got sick; my family wanted me to try a natural/wholestic approach and after that didn't work after trying it for 3 months I ended up in the hospital for 24 days because I was so sick. While in the hospital I found out about
surgery and my family was dead-set against surgery. I ended up being transferred to a teaching hospital to quote "they could save my colon" with either Cyclosporine or a experimental drug. My world was in total disarray at the time from the UC and I couldn't make a good decision for myself so I let other people help make the decision for me which was a mistake. Unfortunately the Cyclospoine worked, I wish that it didn't and my colon was saved to only need to have it removed 8 years later. I should have had it removed the first time I got really sick.
My mother after I had surgery last year and she saw that I was doing really well said "I don't know why you didn't have surgery years ago". I was like because my entire family was against it.
I don't understand the whole bag thing being a big issue, it's only temporary for 3-6 months and you're recovering most of time. The J-pouch is most-likely for the rest of your life and there are good stats to prove it. For me, living with a bag was so much better than living with Severe UC.
Chrissysoul
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Posted 11/4/2014 7:19 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for all the responses guys. Yeah I think everyone's uc is different. What I say to my mom is that if it were a last resort, and I couldn't even function and nothing else worked yes I would get surgery. I would rather have a bag my whole life then suffer if that's how bad it got. But I think she took it as I wanted to get surgery soon. Or didn't want to try natural stuff. Personally, all my remission has been attributed to meds. I just want her to see my side, but I also appreciate that she cares about
me. She actually beat breast cancer 2 times, one time with natural measures, so I think that makes her think why can't I beat uc you know with naturals
ByeByeUC
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Posted 11/4/2014 11:19 PM (GMT 0)
I had the opposite problem. My family and friends were begging me to have the surgery. I was wasting away in front of them. It caused a lot of tension between my hubby and I at the time because I was stubborn and didn't want to have surgery at first. It took me a good two years to come to terms with the fact that I was out of options and needed to do it. And since my sister has a 23 year old J pouch, I got tons of pressure from her to make that leap of faith! So glad I did.
Good luck with whatever the future holds for you. You will know if and when the time comes for surgery.
Chrissysoul
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Posted 11/5/2014 1:46 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks bye bye :) its a really big decision but sometimes is necessary
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