interesting information on wheat

Hi guys,
Its been a while since I have logged on. I have been lurking around and reading all of your posts. I thought some of you would find this article interesting....especially if you feel better off of gluten.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/real-reason-for-toxic-wheat-its-not-gluten/

Be well.

Wow...So US Wheat farmers are using Roundup because its easier (laziness) saves money (Greed) and increases profits (more Greed)

I'm disgusted.

This is not surprising when greed runs everything. Good to know about. I had to recently return to wheat because of a low residue diet/flare (white bread, rice, potatos). It makes me feel so sick, and now I know partially why. I'm not celiac but wheat makes me feel unwell....and I don't believe it's the gluten. Thanks for sharing. I'm going to try Eikorn flour when I stabilize.

Thanks for posting, LH-- this crap is sprayed by the city in our local park 2-3 times/yr "to control weeds". (For sure kids & pets chasing balls or other dropped objects get residue from this.) BTW, how are you doing with UC meds-- been a while since you updated us? / Old Hat (34 yrs with left-sided UC; presently in remission taking brandname Colazal)

If GMOs and glyphosate were proven to be absolutely safe then they wouldn't be banned in Europe.

Garylouville said...
I have found no proof to back any of this up from any legitimate sources anywhere. All links and sources provided are all traced back to questionable sources, again, not one legitimate source anywhere.

So you don't consider this research paper from MIT a legitimate source? So what is a credible source for you, pronouncements from Monsanto? Monsanto is the same company that in the past assured us that the DDT they once manufactured was perfectly safe, that their PCBs were safe, and gave the U.S. government lasting assurances that their Agent Orange was perfectly safe.

I find that my IBD symptoms are much more tolerable when I avoid gluten. So I choose to avoid it (if that is OK with you). But if I were to eat wheat then I prefer to choose organic wheat. AFAIAC you can choose to eat as much wheat as you want.

the article said...
Authored by Anthony Samsel and Stephanie Seneff of MIT, the paper investigates glyphosate’s inhibition of cytochrome P450 (CYP) enzymes, an overlooked component of lethal toxicity to mammals.
However, just because Roundup doesn’t kill you immediately doesn’t make it nontoxic.  In fact, the active ingredient in Roundup lethally disrupts the all important shikimate pathway found in beneficial gut microbes which is responsible for synthesis of critical amino acids.
Friendly gut bacteria, also called probiotics, play a critical role in human health. Gut bacteria aid digestion, prevent permeability of the gastointestinal tract (which discourages the development of autoimmune disease), synthesize vitamins and provide the foundation for robust immunity.  In essence:
Roundup significantly disrupts the functioning of beneficial bacteria in the gut and contributes to permeability of the intestinal wall and consequent expression of autoimmune disease symptoms
In synergy with disruption of the biosynthesis of important amino acids via the shikimate pathway, glyphosate inhibits the cytochrome P450 (CYP) enzymes produced by the gut microbiome.  CYP enzymes are critical to human biology because they detoxify the multitude of foreign chemical compounds, xenobiotics, that we are exposed to in our modern environment today.
As a result, humans exposed to glyphosate through use of Roundup in their community or through ingestion of its residues on industrialized food products become even more vulnerable to the damaging effects of other chemicals and environmental toxins they encounter!
What’s worse is that the negative impact of glyphosate exposure is slow and insidious over months and years as inflammation gradually gains a foothold in the cellular systems of the body.

Actually, I posted the clinical studies on modern wheat elimination. I'm NOT going to bother with posting them again because it magically slips by those who refuse to accept it. From IBS to anxiety, wheat elimination has shown to benefit patients in the clinical setting. No one has ever claimed it to be a panacea, though some here have remarkably attained remission by eliminating it entirely.

From my n=1 experience, elimination of wheat helped decrease the following: bloating, anxiety and depression. My personal UC pathology is much more complex because of the strong microbial component associated with it.

My take on wheat is that people have to come to their own conclusions. If eliminating it helps, then by all means continue sticking with it. I know that my body does not lie when it comes to wheat. I don't need some pharma branded doctor telling me what to do with my body.

IamCurious said...

Guardian7 said...
Actually, I posted the clinical studies on modern wheat elimination. I'm NOT going to bother with posting them again because it magically slips by those who refuse to accept it. From IBS to anxiety, wheat elimination has shown to benefit patients in the clinical setting. No one has ever claimed it to be a panacea, though some here have remarkably attained remission by eliminating it entirely.

From my n=1 experience, elimination of wheat helped decrease the following: bloating, anxiety and depression. My personal UC pathology is much more complex because of the strong microbial component associated with it.

My take on wheat is that people have to come to their own conclusions. If eliminating it helps, then by all means continue sticking with it. I know that my body does not lie when it comes to wheat. I don't need some pharma branded doctor telling me what to do with my body.

This is only your own personal experience, (actually my experience too but that is irrelevant). Not everyone is allergic to gluten. I think the point of the OPs article is that if you are going to eat wheat then you should look for wheat that isn't saturated with Roundup.

No it's not my personal experience. It's what the recent studies on wheat show.

my husband emailed this article to me earlier this week, much of which has been discussed here already...
http://www.sourdough.co.uk/how-bread-has-come-full-circle/

Garylouville said...
Where's the proof that wheat is saturated with roundup (on a large scale)?... I'm just asking where is the proof that it is the standard practice, other than from these alternative healthy lifestyle websites which have a prejudiced opinion? If it is actually true then there may be something to all this but I want facts from independent and unprejudiced sources...

If reread the OP's article carefully you will see a chart displaying the exponential rise of widespread glyphosate on wheat. Please note that this data chart originates from the USDA.

Wouldn't you agree that the U.S. Dept of Agriculture might be an independent and unprejudiced source?

BTW:
www.inquisitr.com/1605344/monsanto-suggests-roundup-herbicide-treatment-for-many-crops-right-before-harvest-not-just-roundup-ready-gmos/

According to Monsanto literature, farmers are encouraged to conduct pre-harvest RoundUp applications on many crops. Monsanto explains how to most efficiently use RoundUp as a pre-harvest treatment of wheat, feed barley, oats, canola, flax, peas, lentils, and dry beans.
“Preharvest is the best time for controlling Canada thistle, quackgrass, perennial sowthistle, dandelion, toadflax, and milkweed. A preharvest weed control application is an excellent management strategy to not only control perennial weeds, but to facilitate harvest management and get a head start on next year’s crop.”

Post Edited (IamCurious) : 11/16/2014 9:39:31 AM (GMT-7)

Glad to hear that your regimen is helping, Lemonhead. / Old Hat (34 yrs with left-sided UC; presently in remission taking brandname Colazal)

good question -

I do want to point out for the one thousandth time that I don't have any issues with those who have helped their situation out with alternative means. Heck, I take Grape seed extract and DAO and have tried several other alternative treatment options! I have no doubts that there are those who got better by going gluten free or wheat free or follow other diets and use various supplements. More power to them and I'm happy for them.

I do want to point out though that there are thousands, probably millions, of people around the world (I'm not really talking about this website) who are in the cult of going gluten free just to do it and have no evidence whatsoever that it does anything for them (other than mentally thinking it does). Again, I'm not talking about UC'rs who have gone gluten or wheat free and gotten better. I'm talking about all those who espouse the benefits of these diets who have no real proof that it actually does anything for them. They have joined the craze just to join the craze, IE a cult. This is no different than any fad diet or health craze of any kind that has been hyped up from time to time over the decades. Sometimes you just jump on the bandwagon for no other reason than to jump on the bandwagon, which is cult like behavior. Many times these alternative websites provide very prejudiced, one sided, and cherry picked facts to prove their fad (cult) and have absolutely zero proof from unprejudiced, independent sources that their fad has any actual benefits, other than perceived.

If someone has IBD (or whatever) and they go lactose free, meat free, gluten free, wheat free, etc. and it helps them, then they are not really a member of the cult because they have a legitimate reason for doing it and legitimate proof that it indeed really does help them. However, if they are going gluten free (or whatever) and there is no noticeable difference in their condition but they still choose to continue this route anyway, then it is possible that they may have joined the cult because they may be doing it just to join the craze, even though there is no noticeable benefit to them and if it is their opinion that everyone should go down this path then they are in the cult. If you buy into the belief that everyone everywhere should be gluten free or wheat free and you want to spread the word about it then you are a member of the cult.

I'm sorry if some get insulted with the word cult but there are many different types and kinds of cults. You could call Christianity or any other religion a cult. That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just a fact. I'm a member of the Star Trek cult and I'm sure some others too but I don't work for Monsanto or any wheat producers. That's not going to stop me though from defending them in the face of prejudicial opinions and twisted facts presented by cult members who wish to spread the cult to everyone everywhere based on questionable sources of evidence, facts, and cherry picked misrepresentations that only tell one side of the story.

Once again, most of the people I am actually talking about are not UC'rs but average Joes and Janes who have joined the craze just to join the craze. They have no medical issues but are anti-gluten or anti-wheat nonetheless.