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Posted 2/21/2015 2:09 PM (GMT 0)
I don't think IamCurious misrepresented your posts on gluten.You used words "gluten police" and said "One slip up or regular slip ups and going "gluten free" is of no value." You either stand behind what you post or you don't.

I for one am mystified by your attacks on people who have found that being GF really helped their UC.
Posted 2/21/2015 2:26 PM (GMT 0)
That's not what I said at all. While I did use the phrase "gluten police" I also agreed with the gluten police in that if someone truly has a gluten problem then they do need to adhere to a strict gluten free diet to see benefit. I have also repeatedly said that there are those who benefit from a gluten free diet but there are also those that go gluten free when they don't actually have a gluten problem. IamCurious conveniently quoted one of my posts and then turned around and edited out part of it to misrepresent what I had written. That's a little unscrupulous. And, I have never once made a post saying that someone (such as IamCuriuos) doesn't know what they are talking about. We're all just posting our opinions.
Posted 2/21/2015 3:28 PM (GMT 0)

Garylouville said...
IamCurious conveniently quoted one of my posts and then turned around and edited out part of it to misrepresent what I had written.

I didn't misrepresent what you had written. All I did was leave out that perfunctory line that you think provides CYA to what you repeatedly always try to say:
that it may take months or even years of assiduously avoiding gluten before seeing benefit, if any, and
“there are also those that go gluten free when they don't actually have a gluten problem”.

The implication is that going gluten-free is mainly a fad for us participating in the anti-gluten “cult”. So there is really no real reason for anyone to take seriously anything we wish to share about what works for us.

Let the other members read you entire post and allow them to draw their own conclusions:

Garylouville said...
I doubt you will get much advice on this. The gluten police will tell you that it must be cut out completely, for months or even years or even for life. One slip up or regular slip ups and going "gluten free" is of no value. For those that truly have a gluten problem there may be some truth to this. I say do it your way and see what happens but be forewarned that those in the police force will be quick to tell you that if you want it to work you have to jump in with both feet and be serious about not having any slip ups.

Posted 2/21/2015 4:49 PM (GMT 0)
I have repeatedly told newbies asking questions that probiotics, supplements, and diet changes have helped many and, in some cases, I have even mentioned the fact that, in particular, going lactose free or gluten free has helped many. I have even mentioned several times that for those that actually do have a gluten problem, going gluten free will be of benefit. If someone does not have a gluten problem then it will be of no help, of which tons of people have posted here that they have tried going gluten free and it did nothing. In this particular thread I even told the poster that they should try it and see what happens (you edited that part out).

In ending, I have never once posted that you don't know what you're talking about even though I disagree with you often. To me it is crossing the line to single someone out and imply that they don't know what they are talking about in regards to anything and everything. No one is ever right all the time and no one is ever wrong all the time and I would never do that to you. Some of the ones on here that I disagree with the most (including you) I realize are very knowledgeable in certain areas and provide valuable input in certain circumstances.
Posted 2/21/2015 5:10 PM (GMT 0)
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Posted 2/21/2015 6:10 PM (GMT 0)
Guys - it is the way wheat is processed and hybridized here that is the key issue! I think it's wayyy more complicated than just gluten alone, since the ancient strains (einkorn) have been eaten for thousands of years without issue. The chemical structure of the proteins are being modified to the point where the body is not recognizing it anymore, so there is an immune response being produced (hence the rise in celiac disease and wheat sensitivity). For me, this response manifests as anxiety and depression.

I think gluten intolerance will turn out to be a misnomer for modern wheat intolerance. I think they really screwed up on this, and the studies aren't controlling for this. I posted a study where they did control for the wheat strains and it turns out modern wheat increases both IBS symptoms as well as the inflammatory markers.

We owe it to ourselves to pick the best food choices (organic, pesticide free, unprocessed) -- wheat included. Unfortunately, with the way wheat is laced with chemicals and herbicides, it can be impossible for people to find quality foods.
Posted 2/21/2015 6:22 PM (GMT 0)
Maybe I was a bit out of line. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings.
Posted 2/21/2015 6:34 PM (GMT 0)
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Posted 2/21/2015 7:49 PM (GMT 0)
Gluten-free MAY really be helping me. I stopped Remicade last fall after a 2+ year battle with chronic pain that I thought may be from it. Right at the two month mark where Remicade should have been out of my system I began having bad pangs of pain in my gut and became sensitive to raw veggies and other such foods again.

Well, a doctor I saw suggested going gluten-free and so I did. Within a week of doing so almost all the gut pains went away and have stayed away.

about three weeks after starting this diet I went on vacation and decided to not try to eat gluten-free since the whole point was to relax and not worry about anything. I ate plenty of gluten, and I had A LOT of IBS symptoms that week. No pain really, though you could contribute that to relaxing in the sun on a beach being good for the body.

Anyways, I'm now on prednisone to try to resolve the pains I have... so that will blur how well I'm doing with my gut... but essentially I am still in remission and feeling great gut-wise on the gluten-free diet.
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