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Posted 12/5/2015 4:01 PM (GMT 0)
Actually, santa and I both believe that. Unfortunately, that fix can be hard to come by, and even if it gets fixed, it's hard to maintain. We (santa again) also think the whole auto immune thing is bogus (at least in most cases). It's a malfunctioning gut that causes all the problems. A true auto mune disease has no source. UC, in our opinion does.

This is an interesting quick read. But I wish I understood better the whole smoking cessation thing. Obviously quitting would affect the microbiome, but why in a negative way for some. What other component is involved ?


www.marksdailyapple.com/16-things-that-affect-your-gut-bacteria/#axzz3tSkRBjFP
Posted 12/5/2015 5:02 PM (GMT 0)
Just search, smoking old mike and you will find some interesting threads.
Basically, smoking increases mucus/thickness, lowers immune function, messes with the electron transfer chain,Carbon monoxide also has an effect,as does nicotine, and gut bug distributions are changed.
Then we also have the 4000 or so other compounds in smoke,plus inhaled bacteria including MAP.
Lots of stuff going on.,
Old Mike
Posted 12/6/2015 2:40 PM (GMT 0)
I am sure this question has been addressed before, and I couldn't find the question or answer doing a search, but is one to assume that for every smoker that develops UC after quitting, that those folks would have developed UC having never smoked ? Are they destined for a fricked up colon regardless, it's just delayed by making the stupid choice to smoke ?
Posted 12/6/2015 3:17 PM (GMT 0)
You could say that smoking masked the fact the person had uc, it isn't until they quit that uc was revealed. Uc causes thinning issues with the mucosal barrier (smoking thickens that barrier), and the other things Old Mike described. I've never smoked a day in my life but have uc. Unless you're a previous smoker, who quit smoking and then got uc then there's little reason to start smoking now (as those are the ones who have the best results).
Posted 12/6/2015 5:29 PM (GMT 0)
Is it a cure or a treatment? People say probiotics/fermented foods/fiber can heal the gut but they only work while you take them, so I think it sounds like a treatment. Actually, a lot on that list would be very workable with something like SCD diet. SCD is more strict and promotes gut "Healing". I didn't have luck with that :(
Posted 12/6/2015 5:45 PM (GMT 0)
Looking back all those years of smoking I had signs of IBS but not to the point of pain, blood, mucous. When I quit smoking, about 2-3 months later, the crap hit the fan...almost literally. So in my case I'm pretty sure my UC would have manifested much earlier had I not smoked.

Hope Santa is right!
Posted 12/7/2015 4:16 PM (GMT 0)

notsosicklygirl said...
Is it a cure or a treatment? People say probiotics/fermented foods/fiber can heal the gut but they only work while you take them, so I think it sounds like a treatment. Actually, a lot on that list would be very workable with something like SCD diet. SCD is more strict and promotes gut "Healing". I didn't have luck with that :(


I think that as long as we get our gut bacteria fixed, and keep it that way by avoiding things that screw it up, then it is a cure and not a treatment.
Posted 12/7/2015 5:43 PM (GMT 0)
fixed....nah. Cure...nah.

q
Posted 12/7/2015 8:05 PM (GMT 0)

quincy said...
fixed....nah. Cure...nah.

q


Personal experience or speculationing ?
Posted 12/8/2015 12:27 AM (GMT 0)
NAhaha Quincy your uc will also be cured soon no matter how much you resist :)
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