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Posted 1/14/2017 6:59 PM (GMT 0)
I hear that wheat / gluten / sugar are not good for you. So say I wanted to try something akin to a Paleo diet.

But if I am actively flaring (which I currently am and have been for quite a while), then nice as that idea is, well, I have been advised to eat stuff like Cornflakes, white bread, pasta, rice, etc. All that stuff would be out. Because the hospital advise a low residue diet when flaring.

If I combine the two diets I'm left with little. Chicken, fish, maybe well cooked carrots, avacados ... okay so firstly, can we get a list going of other stuff that fits in this category (the middle of the venn diagram) AND, do you think it would be worth me trying?

Today I have eaten an UNGODLY amount of sugar. Lots of chocolate and loads of white bread (and of course that has the sugar in it and the starches and stuff). And my diet often contains a lot of sugar etc. And I mean a lot.

I know, I am dumb!

So, thoughts on all this?
Posted 1/14/2017 7:21 PM (GMT 0)
It will catch up with your tomorrow when you go to the bathroom smile for me I go to the bathroom a ton when I have sugar. If I eat as you suggested by meal three of the day, I want to vomit from eating the same bland stuff! If I take a probiotic, it kills the yeast the sugar is feeding on or vise versa and I'm in the toilet again with a lot of poop and diareeah. Yeah all the thing in your title, get to me!! Right now while I'm on Pred, I take a piece of toast with it and a boiled egg. Gluten free bread is not as good either I've notice too much potato starch, rice etc
Posted 1/14/2017 8:26 PM (GMT 0)
Well, you're not dumb. That's a lot to grapple with if you are combining the two diets. Obviously you have to tinker and figure out what works for you. I remember Imagardener always talks about how she started out trying SCD (I think?) and had to tinker until she came up with her own version that works for her. For me when I was flaring, I didn't worry about sugar, I went low fibre. I looked at everything through the lens of fibre only, with resistant starch as a secondary theme (they go together nicely). So I was eating rice krispies, white bread, white crackers, white rice, mashed potatoes, chicken, salmon... you get the picture. Worked for me, can't say it would work for anyone else.

In remission? Completely different picture. High fibre, healthy foods. Loads of veggies & fruit. No white anything.

So there's an idea to consider, if your Venn diagram doesn't work out: When flaring do your low residue and when in remission do your Paleo.
Posted 1/14/2017 9:02 PM (GMT 0)
Here are some food add-on's that work for me (besides your chicken, etc): all meat is good and you can vary how they taste by cooking them different ways with different herbs: curry with coconut milk using cilantro and ginger and soy, lemon chicken with basil, some other herbs I use are dill, lemon basil (very diff. taste from regular basil) oregano, ground mild red peppers almost like paprika. Homemade chicken tenders rolled in gluten-free bread crumbs with a little dried lemon basil then fried. Gluten-free deli meat is available, sandwiches are easy with Udi's GF bread but you can also make a chef's said with sliced deli on top.

Chicken salad easy to make with store-bought cooked chicken (whole), then make soup from the leftovers.

Veggies: Well-cooked spinach, yellow squash or zucchini, green beans and potatoes (my personal favorite) which can be cooked sooooo many yummy ways.

Cheese is non-paleo but my gut likes Swiss cheese so I obey the gut and make a kind of Chicken Cordon Bleu with less hassle. Slice chicken breast in half and put a slice of Swiss and a slice of ham with mustard between chicken halves, bake and yumm.

Some people eat cooked rice with no probs but my gut hates rice unless it's made into bread.

Restaurant meals: gut loves Vietnamese and Thai food but any restaurant is fine because almost all have a burger and potato on the menu or chef's salad or steak.

Good luck with your diet mod. It's hard to change habits in the beginning but I actually love the food I eat now, gluten-free and low fiber. Takes some thinking in advance but after a while gets much easier.
Posted 1/14/2017 9:49 PM (GMT 0)
Cornflakes, yuck! Try original Cheerios; it's now gluten-free if that causes you issues. Otherwise, Pillsbury farina was very soothing to me while flaring & it supplies about 50% of the adult daily iron requirement. Definitely limit your refined sugar intake, but a little honey or pure maple syrup shouldn't hurt. / Old Hat (36 yrs with left-sided UC; presently in remission taking brandname Colazal)
Posted 1/16/2017 2:13 PM (GMT 0)
Don't worry it's likely going to take some time to adjust to a new lifestyle or diet.
When I am flaring I'm very disciplined with diet due to the desire of wanting to avoiding discomfort and pain, so for me that means no wheat, grains, no processed sugar, alcohol, certain nightshades, overly citrus/acidic fruit etc
Sticking to the paleo diet is always successful for me, but when I am in remission I can get away with eating trigger foods in moderation. Like some have mentioned already, there are gluten free foods that I still won't touch like corn, potato starch based breads etc.

Some suggestions for trigger food alternatives would be baking desserts with almond/coconut/walnut flour, using maple syrup/stevia/dates for sugar sub, black rice/yams if you really want starches, kombucha instead of alcohol,
Posted 1/16/2017 10:41 PM (GMT 0)
Toxins!!!

Poisons!!1!!1!

Activated charcoal "adsorbs" it all!1!11

Nobel Prize coming soon.














(Nobel Prize in idiocy.)
Posted 1/17/2017 12:04 AM (GMT 0)
for me, only low residue is a must, but i don't care the least about gluten. i should also reduce sweets and i know how difficult it is
Posted 1/17/2017 4:12 AM (GMT 0)
For me, when flaring, I have to eat whatever I can tolerate, at whatever time of day enabled me to keep my required schedule. So mostly, my situation was always attempting to minimize symptoms. I would live to try to eat at times that would enable me to avoid the toilet while I was working - to try to stay above water financially. I know this isn't everyone's situation, but as an independent woman, I make 75 cents to a man's dollar, and I need every penny to afford to make my next months rent. I would eat when it was convenient, and when I could eat and still get to all my meetings tomorrow. I would consider days to come following too. Do I have a meeting wednesday, because then, even if I didn't eat monday to make it through tuesday, I'd have to eat very , very minimally tuesday to make it through the meetings wednesday. Luckily, I am very easy when it comes to eating. My appetite isn't huge. I often say I'd be great on survivor because I can go quite a while before I am really hungry. So yeah, what I ate had nothing to do with it - anything entering would empty when it wanted, where it wanted, with a lot of pain and very little warning. Don't blame yourself for eating what you want. When I didn't have to go anywhere for a few days I would always eat what I wanted and suffer. I tried going the other way and eating only SCD stuff for many months and I was equally miserable and probably getting sicker more quickly due to lower intake of calories. Do your best, find a doctor you trust, try whatever you can, have surgery if nothing works. I did, life is SO much better. I just ate a nice meal and had a stout, and I have a lot of work tomorrow. No biggie. Life goes on. I shoudln't say no biggie, but for me it's over, and really, it's in the past. It's a huge thing, yeah...
Posted 1/17/2017 4:26 AM (GMT 0)
Eating strict paleo when I was flaring was problematic. Too much roughage (insoluble fibre etc) and fat without a binder. I needed some soluable stuff to soak up some poop juices in my guts. Things like plain oatmeal, white rice, white potato, those were all gut calming, but, obviously not "paleo". I ate them, because it helped. The aspects of paleo that really did work for me were no fillers, chemicals, no processed food, no sugars, no mystery food. I made EVERYTHING. I knew all ingredients in my food, always.
Posted 1/17/2017 2:22 PM (GMT 0)
Who deleted my post in this thread? It wasn't me. Why was it deleted?? I just posted a link to an article on HW about activated charcoal and gut issues and quoted some of it.
Posted 1/17/2017 2:28 PM (GMT 0)
Wasn't me
Posted 1/17/2017 2:36 PM (GMT 0)
I believe you, iPoop. But somebody must have done. Urgh, I'm now feeling paranoid as well as on edge - just what I need :/

Edit: never mind... :x

Post Edited (NiceCupOfTea) : 1/17/2017 7:41:20 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/17/2017 3:12 PM (GMT 0)
I didn't remove it either. I don't see any reason anyone would remove that... I do know some people have had enough of the charcoal posts themselves, but that's got nothing to do with you. We will try to get to the bottom of this for you smile
Posted 1/17/2017 3:18 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks nssg :p
Posted 1/17/2017 3:53 PM (GMT 0)

CuredColitis said...
You can eat anything you want when you're cured of this horrible disease. There was not one food that I should have or should have not eaten to get better but activated charcoal CAPSULES cured me and now I can eat anything I want without regrets and without colitis ever occuring again. The no foods list doesn't work, the drug list doesn't cure, juice fasting doesn't cure it but only the body knows how to cure itself and sometimes it needs a little help getting the poisons that cause the inflammation called colitis and activated charcoal traps the poisons and they leave your body through the stool. Simple. But it took 18 years for me to find the one thing that ended colitis forever and it will never ever come back because it took years and years of accumulated junk to pile up in my body's organs and that caused toxins to wreak havoc on my system and inflame it.

Please discontinue posting the same thing over and over. I see you're also posting this on the Crohn's board & you've upset quite a few people on both forums. You're welcome to start your own thread about your experiences, but hijacking every single thread to talk about what worked for you, that isn't necessarily all that relevant to anyone, is frankly, coming off like spam.

No one knows your history. Perhaps you were misdiagnosed or never even had a scope. I have no idea if what you're talking about relates to anyone here, so please start a thread, & stop responding with unfounded claims of cures. It's not helpful.

If you continue, you will be considered a spammer.
Posted 1/17/2017 5:24 PM (GMT 0)
Oh thank you for this NSSG. I was one of the posters getting sick of seeing that same post on so many threads.
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