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Posted 5/7/2017 2:35 PM (GMT 0)
Be prepared to get screwed by this bill if you have UC:

Furious people are sharing their medical conditions after the Republican healthcare plan clears the House
www.businessinsider.com/what-is-a-preexisting-condition-in-health-insurance-2017-5
Posted 5/7/2017 2:53 PM (GMT 0)
Seems like there's lots of backlash in taking away people's health coverage, who'd have guessed? I just hope it's watered down, becomes more moderate, or just goes away due to the house and senate being unable to agree on something they'll both pass lol. Big egos, determination, and time might get something passed. It just isn't going to be pretty or an easy process.

I know we can't get political or use foul language here (and that'd be the remainder of my post), so i'll end it here smile
Posted 5/7/2017 3:43 PM (GMT 0)
It is a preexisting for sure. If it wasn't on the list, I would be shocked. If I were a money-hungry insurance company, I wouldn't accept people with an illness like UC. The problem is that our health is decided by the companies.
Posted 5/7/2017 10:41 PM (GMT 0)
All I've got to say is it seems just about everything is a pre-existing condition according the to new proposed healthcare. I am shocked at the list. And I'll stop there.
Posted 5/7/2017 11:19 PM (GMT 0)
This is the sort of thing UK folks can look forward to in the future when the Tories sell off the NHS to Americans in exchange for trade deals with them.
Posted 5/8/2017 12:51 AM (GMT 0)
Crohns is on the list and so are ulcers. Autoimmune diseases are on the list. Anyone who's taken 6-mp/imuran has a preexisting condition because it is listed as chemotherapy.

No matter what, once the bill goes into effect the States will be able to opt out of the required 10 essential medical benefits coverages to keep the premiums down. So pre existing conditions are coming back and in a big way.

What hasn't been talked about yet is that this is going to effect employer based insurance programs too. Any company with 50 or more employees can buy plans in any state. It will be a race to the bottom in coverages, they will find the cheapest States with the least amount of coverage.

Thanks Trump voters.
Posted 5/8/2017 1:25 AM (GMT 0)
TrumpCare will only cover 5% of the people with preexisting conditions www.cnbc.com/2017/05/04/gops-obamacare-replacement-bill-would-protect-just-5-percent-of-people-with-pre-existing-conditions-analysis.html
Posted 5/8/2017 5:06 AM (GMT 0)
Considering acne and irregular periods qualify as pre-existing conditions under this legislation, you can bet IBD is. If you are a US citizen, please vote in the midterm elections in 2018.
Posted 5/8/2017 12:15 PM (GMT 0)

DutchessCountyJim said...
Imagine needing to be sent to prison for health care? I wonder how many desperate, unstable, sick, older people would be willing to do this? I wonder what crimes would be committed? And who would be the victims?

Jim,

Is Faso your congressional rep in NY19? Tonight there is a Town Hall in Kingston that his constituents have organized, Faso is refusing to show up. Our neighbors' district NY18 Rep (Sean Patrick Maloney) has adopted our district and will show up to explain the AHCA to us and what it means at the Town Hall tonight.

Faso is a Republican who voted for the AHCA and Maloney is a Democrate who voted against the AHCA.
Posted 5/9/2017 2:41 AM (GMT 0)
At least you have a good congressman; thanks for loaning him to us (NY19) for our Town Hall. My Congressman (Faso) was at a fundraiser in Albany tonight instead of being at the Town Hall that we were holding for him.

Congressman Faso has been highlighted on Rachel Maddow's show for the past 3 nights due to his vote for the AHCA.
Posted 5/10/2017 10:31 PM (GMT 0)
Paul Ryan, J. Faso, D. Issa & the rest of their ilk in the House deserve to get Crohn's, multiple myeloma, & Parkinson's!!!!!!!!! Maybe then, but only MAYBE, (because they're so devoted to their perverse ideology + the insurance companies!) they would understand why people in the U.S. need reliable, reasonably-priced health insurance w/o restrictive clauses. And these are the same fine pieces who vote to defund Planned Parenthood, besides. Some respected news organizations are reporting that Ryan has gotten over $2,223,000 recently from the insurance companies to help him decide how to vote! As for our wonderful Prez, read the 5/1 issue of The New Yorker (Talk of the Town section)!!!!! / Old Hat (36 yrs with left-sided UC; presently in remission taking brandname Colazal)
Posted 5/10/2017 10:52 PM (GMT 0)
The only way any of us is going to get adequate, affordable quality treatment is with the implementation of a single-payer, universal Medicare for All system
Posted 5/10/2017 10:55 PM (GMT 0)
Such a bill is being discussed to cover ALL citizens of California. It would set an extremely significant precedent for the rest of the country moving forward. I implore/encourage/beg you all sign petitions supporting this bill. This will help hundreds of thousands of people immediately. California can then set an example for the rest of the country, which polls have shown already want this type of system. Democrat, Independent and Republican voters all have shown a plurality of support when polled.

http://www.healthycaliforniaact.org/
Posted 5/11/2017 1:22 AM (GMT 0)
NY is 2 votes away in our legislature from a single payer system. Our politics is messy here, we have elected democrates that caucus with the republicans but the voters are starting to catch on.

www.salon.com/2017/05/09/with-obamacare-under-gop-attack-new-york-could-fight-back-with-single-payer

I think Vermont tried something a few years ago but could never get it to work because of the size of the state, infrastructure and resources. This would be a huge under taking.
Posted 5/11/2017 1:30 AM (GMT 0)
I'm originally from NY, ks1905. if there is anything I can do to help get it passed there, let me know. The same goes to anyone in any state with bills like these.

If people in this thread reading this could please go to this link: http://www.healthycaliforniaact.org/ - please show your support however possible. We need business owners, union leaders, citizens, everyone to show the state you want this. Most of the objections from the people on the fence within the state senate are related to whether people actually support or desire this. All we need to do is show them.

Please, I suffer like everyone in this forum. I can't keep paying more and more for this, and I can't lose my insurance. This is a very real opportunity for me to take good care of my disease. Please sign your support and help however you can.
Posted 5/11/2017 6:59 AM (GMT 0)
Sfc425:

I think if you look at various health care systems in Europe you will find relatively adequate, affordable, quality treatment in some countries that do not have a single-payer model.
Posted 5/11/2017 9:24 AM (GMT 0)
Every country in the European Union has some form of nationalized healthcare that is leaps and bounds better than the American system
Posted 5/11/2017 10:16 AM (GMT 0)
Yeah Vermont did fail on single-payer but likely for political reasons. www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1501050
Posted 5/11/2017 2:56 PM (GMT 0)
If you were an insurance company, who had to pay for all this and your business depends on revenue, would you want to pay for anyone with a pre-existing condition, especially such as UC? I wouldn't......last year my medical bills hit like $200,000 and all I paid was $2,500 + my monthly contribution. My insurer just got absolutely screwed....too many of us and they won't be able to afford it, go under, then no one has insurance. I think some of us here may benefit in taking a business 101 class....
Posted 5/11/2017 3:11 PM (GMT 0)
All you got to do is take the profit out of it ;-) Government run, single payer. Certain things are very expensive and aren't directly profitable in an immediate sense but are necessities, like building roads, educating children, and having a health and productive workforce. If people are indebted and constantly worrying about their health, skipping meds and procedures due to cost, and delaying treatment then it only increases cost later with ER visits and hospitilization. It's a much more prudent abd smart system to emphasize preventative treatment, catch things early, and keep tabs with chronic illness patients to ensure compliance and prompt reporting of flares early on.
Posted 5/11/2017 8:53 PM (GMT 0)
Well said Ipoop!!!

There are two things that corporations should not profit on because they have perverse incentives to profit on, it's healthcare and prisons.

There needs to be positive outcomes, not profits when treating someone's health or taking away someone's freedom.
Posted 5/11/2017 9:42 PM (GMT 0)

Bull101 said...
If you were an insurance company, who had to pay for all this and your business depends on revenue, would you want to pay for anyone with a pre-existing condition, especially such as UC? I wouldn't......last year my medical bills hit like $200,000 and all I paid was $2,500 + my monthly contribution. My insurer just got absolutely screwed....too many of us and they won't be able to afford it, go under, then no one has insurance. I think some of us here may benefit in taking a business 101 class....

Just think about how effective that business 101 class would be if healthcare was free

I'm supposed to sympathize with the insurance company discriminating against me? No thanks
Posted 5/11/2017 9:48 PM (GMT 0)
"My insurer just got absolutely screwed." Are you insane? 99.9% of all the insured by any of these companies get screwed! It shouldn't be looked at like that, but if you want to go there...
Think about how many homes on your street burned down this year - well, they all paid a pretty hefty sum just in case. Take that idea x 1000 -thats medical insurance and thats why single payer systems work best -period!
Posted 5/12/2017 12:37 AM (GMT 0)

beatUC said...
"My insurer just got absolutely screwed." Are you insane? 99.9% of all the insured by any of these companies get screwed! It shouldn't be looked at like that, but if you want to go there...
Think about how many homes on your street burned down this year - well, they all paid a pretty hefty sum just in case. Take that idea x 1000 -thats medical insurance and thats why single payer systems work best -period!

Amen!
Posted 5/12/2017 1:52 AM (GMT 0)
A recent, relevant comment from my middle-aged ophthalmologist: "I'm actually from Wisconsin, and every time I go back there [from the Northeast USA] I feel like asking "How can you people keep re-electing that Paul Ryan to Congress?" ... " (It really does defy logic when people vote against their own critical interests!) / Old Hat (36 yrs with left-sided UC; presently in remission taking brandname Colazal)
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