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Posted 7/5/2017 11:03 AM (GMT 0)
I was looking for a good TCM doctor with expertise in crohns/Colitis in DC Baltimore area. Please let me know if you know anyone with proven experience.

Post Edited (st_uc) : 7/5/2017 5:23:36 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/6/2017 3:24 PM (GMT 0)
What are you hoping to accomplish with a TCM doc? Are you still on Qing Dai? Are things not going well for you?
Posted 7/6/2017 4:04 PM (GMT 0)
Things suddenly became very bad for me. 1st Remicade did not work and then having severe symptoms even on high dose steroids.

I tried Isatis cooling for 2 weeks which did not work. Doctors are suggesting Entyvio and I'm not confident because symptoms are bad even on steroids and what can entyvio do.
Posted 7/6/2017 4:11 PM (GMT 0)
Is Qing Dai working fine for you?
Posted 7/6/2017 4:50 PM (GMT 0)
I go to Luke Acupuncture in Rockville. He has me taking an herbal formula and acupuncture sessions every other week. It is sort of helping, but maybe just placebo...
Posted 7/6/2017 5:17 PM (GMT 0)
I've been on qingdai powder for just over 2 months now and I haven't had any bleeding .... none .... zero ... nada. I can eat virtually anything I want for the first time in years. Symptoms are very minimal. I discontinued all other medication when I started to see if qingdai alone will work and that is the path I will continue to take. Others have claimed this alone has worked for years, so I'm adding myself to the list of guinea pigs.

I think you should try the qingdai powdered form the way it was administered in the study. That is what the research was based on, not Isatis cooling. With Isatis Cooling there's no way to tell how much qingdai you're getting. imho, quitting anything after two weeks is like removing a cast because your broken arm isn't healing quickly enough. You just have to give it time to know for sure if it'll work for you.
Posted 7/6/2017 5:25 PM (GMT 0)
How much QingDai are you taking in a day? Do you make a capsule of the powder?
Posted 7/6/2017 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
@Katerina-b


How long have you been going to Luke Acupuncture? Does he tell the herbal formula and what ingredients are there?
Posted 7/6/2017 6:09 PM (GMT 0)
Haven't you asked this before? Take a cup and a little spoon. Drop a small spoonful (about 1.5 gram) in water, mix it up and slam it back while it's suspended. Do this twice a day, preferebly after a meal.
Posted 7/6/2017 6:46 PM (GMT 0)
I have been going there since November 2016. He does give you the list of herbs. There are approximately 15 herbs in the formula I take.

As a side note, qing dai is not one of the herbs. I asked him about it before and he did not want to give it to me, saying it is used for leukemia in tcm...
Posted 7/6/2017 7:04 PM (GMT 0)

Katerina-b said...
I asked him about it before and he did not want to give it to me, saying it is used for leukemia in tcm...

In case you haven't seen the study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3645393/

TCM has been around for thousands of years, so naturally there are thousands of herbs and remedies they utilize, many outdated. Even though qing dai is a TCM herb it's not used the same way when it comes to treating UC. It's woad, a plant, with mechanisms of action that have been researched from a western medicine perspective, not according to TCM.
Posted 7/6/2017 7:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks eekseel. I do want to try qing dai, as the results seem very promising. I just ordered some isatis cooling, so will see how that works out for me.
Posted 7/6/2017 9:51 PM (GMT 0)
Again, the study wasn't done with Isatis Cooling! Sure it has lots of other good stuff but there's no way to know how much qingdai you're getting. 3 tablets is 2.25 grams most of which is not qingdai. You're better off getting qingdai powder and take 2-3 grams every day to be sure. 100 grams costs about as much as a bottle of IC and lasts a month.

Post Edited (eekseel) : 7/6/2017 3:54:47 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/6/2017 11:23 PM (GMT 0)

eekseel said...
Again, the study wasn't done with Isatis Cooling! Sure it has lots of other good stuff but there's no way to know how much qingdai you're getting. 3 tablets is 2.25 grams most of which is not qingdai. You're better off getting qingdai powder and take 2-3 grams every day to be sure. 100 grams costs about as much as a bottle of IC and lasts a month.

How long did it take for the qing day to really take effect? I've been on it 3 weeks, no more blood but still same other symptoms
Posted 7/7/2017 4:25 PM (GMT 0)
Bleeding stopped within the first week after 6 months of continuous bleeding. Major symptoms remained for another week or 2 and have steadily been on decline. The target is 4 months for tissues to heal so just give it time.

I'm positive there will always be symptoms with this disease since it's autoimmune. With Lialda/Uceris I had frequent pain, urgency and many foods worsened the symptoms and put me into flare. Now I'm responding to problem foods less and less and symptoms are negligible compared to two months ago.
Posted 7/7/2017 6:52 PM (GMT 0)

Katerina-b said...
I go to Luke Acupuncture in Rockville. He has me taking an herbal formula and acupuncture sessions every other week. It is sort of helping, but maybe just placebo...

Will you recommend Luke or should I try a different TCM? What is your opinion about him?
Posted 7/7/2017 8:23 PM (GMT 0)
He specializes on cancer patients, but says he has experience with digestive issues as well. He was recommended to me by some friends who benefited from him. I think he is good, but I did not experience a drastic improvement from his formula. If there was any, it was very gradual. As for acupuncture, it did help, but effects of it last 24 hours or so. It supposedly builds up gradually. Also, he is not very talkative, something to consider if that's important to you.
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