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Westernized Diet is the Most Ubiquitous Environmental Factor in Inflammatory Bowel Disease
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Oligodar
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Posted 1/10/2019 11:28 AM (GMT 0)
Westernized Diet is the Most Ubiquitous Environmental Factor in Inflammatory Bowel Disease
http://www.thepermanentejournal.org/issues/2019/winter/6956-bowel-disease.html
Oligodar
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Posted 1/10/2019 11:40 AM (GMT 0)
Relapse Prevention in Ulcerative Colitis by Plant-Based Diet Through Educational Hospitalization: A Single-Group Trial
http://www.thepermanentejournal.org/issues/2018/summer/6776-ulcerative-colitis.html
Oligodar
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Posted 1/10/2019 11:49 AM (GMT 0)
Lifestyle-related disease in Crohn’s disease: Relapse prevention by a semi-vegetarian diet
https://www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/full/v16/i20/2484.htm
UC prisoner
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Posted 1/10/2019 12:50 PM (GMT 0)
Hmmmm ... food for thought 🤣
Oligodar
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Posted 1/10/2019 1:06 PM (GMT 0)
If you do not have time to read it, here is quick summary:
"If you are in remission, semi-vegetarian (Plant-Based) diet might protect you from relapse."
UC prisoner
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Posted 1/10/2019 4:49 PM (GMT 0)
Never eaten an excessive animal based diet so perhaps this is why I remain in remission.
Now, in addition to limiting meat, I also limit gluten, sugar, and dairy ... helps my arthritis too. E.g. dinner tonight is red lentil pasta with sautéed veggies (onions, bell peppers and asparagus)
imagardener2
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Posted 1/10/2019 6:40 PM (GMT 0)
I was a vegetarian for many years when I got UC, quite healthy and active. UC hit like ton of bricks and I don't think it was food poisoning. While trying many diet modifications (because RX by itself was not doing anything to relieve my UC symptoms) I had to start eating meat because so many other foods caused problems. Meat always make my gut happy.
I finally determined what diet worked for my gut and got to remission, still taking Balsalazide daily. Today I could probably go back to vegetarian diet but don't want to rock my boat.
I agree that Western diet, being meat, sugar and fat laden, is inflammatory. It may be the tipping point for people who have IBD potential. But so many eat huge amounts of meat and don't get UC (no one in my fam has any IBD). On my personal level meat is not the cause.
poopydoop
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Posted 1/10/2019 9:44 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting. I wish i could eat a more plant-based diet but in a flare-up i cannot digest vegan protein i.e. lentils beans chickpeas. Also the most popular diet for colitis namely SCD is based around limiting carbs not meat.
TroubledTurds
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Posted 1/11/2019 3:00 AM (GMT 0)
UC prisoner said...
Hmmmm ... food for thought 🤣
if you can actually call that "food" -
Oligodar
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Posted 1/11/2019 8:46 AM (GMT 0)
What is more interesting there is a group of people who claim that carnivore diet (only meat) induced remission for them. These are anecdotal stories.
Look at:
http://meatheals.com/category/crohns-disease/
http://meatheals.com/category/digestion/ulcerative-colitis/
http://crohnscarnivore.blogspot.com/
I have no idea if these stories are genuine.
iPoop
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Posted 1/11/2019 1:32 PM (GMT 0)
Diet studies are full of contradiction, so much more study is really needed to bring some sanity and consensus to the varied conclusions out there. Anecdotal reports here are equally contractions. I was a vegetarian and then was diagnosed with UC; I went vegetarian and then my uc was in a remission; I was a vegeterian and adding back meats put my uc into a remission! For some of us the fibers from a plant-based diet can aggravate our symptoms and destroy us.
Oligodar
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Posted 1/11/2019 1:46 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, and there is still possibility that UC is not related to a diet.
iPoop
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Posted 1/11/2019 2:37 PM (GMT 0)
I'm a proponent that UC is a genetic-deficiency, something we're born with that is activated later in life due to epigentic changes. We're not guaranteed from birth to have UC, rather we are just more predisposed or likely than others to get UC. Epigenetic changes are often environmental-exposures. Perhaps we have weakness that make us less able to bounce-back from bacterium-die-off shocks than the general population (that is antibiotics set us off down the cascade of failures that produces UC). Perhaps our mucosa barriers are more permeable and less effective at warding off attacks than others are (that is pathogenic bacterium are able to attack healthy tissue and set the immune system off). Perhaps we're more depressed and stressed and that starts an inflammation cascade and hormonal changes that trigger it.
Could diet have some role in it? Perhaps. Certainly what we eat has an affect on the diversity and concentrations of various bacterium within our guts. However, diet could be countering a symptom of UC (weird bacterium makeup, more bad guys and less good guys) much as mesalamine treats a symptom and reduces inflammation.
All interesting stuff, and for those so inclined, diet is yet another tool to try. There's just never a guarantee that any one thing will be your/my solution. With a lifelong, chronic illness we have many many years to try lots of things, and some might just work!
imagardener2
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Posted 1/11/2019 2:46 PM (GMT 0)
oligadar said: there is still possibility that UC is not related to a diet.
Based on this forum there are many people (perhaps majority) that say diet does not affect their UC symptoms.
But I would not be in remission without strong diet modification.
The most important message is that everyone is different.
If standard RX protocol isn't working for you then you need to try other things including diet modification.
If diet mod. doesn't help then you know that and can move on.
I know that eating more fiber would be healthier for me based on many, many studies. Too bad my
gut will not co-operate and just tolerates a small amount of fiber. The gut rules.
I sometimes wonder if the reason non-UC people gravitate toward meat and non-fiber foods is their gut telling them that's what it can handle.
Oligodar
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Posted 1/11/2019 3:03 PM (GMT 0)
I can confirm that fiber is problematic at least in my case. I am in remission (objectively confirmed by colonoscopy). If I eat bigger amount of fiber I get UC-like symptoms within 6-12 hours. These symptoms linger for several days. The most problematic food is: beans and whole-grains. This does not agree with suggested vegetarian diet which is rich of fiber.
Uniform Charlie
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Posted 1/12/2019 1:56 PM (GMT 0)
Great assessment by ipoop. I think our bodies and microbiomes are so complex it is almost impossible to find a one-size-fits-all approach. I think of changing diet sort of like adding new plants or animals to a pond. There are immediate changes that may or may not be beneficial to that environment as a whole but there can be unintended consequences. Since every pond is different there is not one species you can add to every pond that will have the same predictable result.
A diet generally "anti-inflammatory" for most can cause inflammation or allergic reactions in some who may be sensitive to certain foods. We also confuse symptom aggrivation with worsening of disease making monitoring diet changes difficult.
That being said, I am encouraged by all the buzz around diet and the microbiome in the scientific community. Knowledge gained in any area causes exponential increases in future knowledge.
TroubledTurds
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Posted 1/13/2019 2:24 AM (GMT 0)
I for one don't do well on the Winterized Diet - my gut and butt miss all the varieties of fresh fruits and veggies that a Winterized Diet just does not supply -
I've had enough frozen chick peas - bring on a bowl full of fresh pickled cherries ! Washington cherries that is ;-)3
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