thats it !!!

I agree with you!  I want to know more about natural ways to cure this disease!  Any suggestions from anyone out there???

I don't have peace with taking PPI's for the rest of my life either.  Too young!!

Any advice would help,

Nolique

GL I tryed this my self.


I was basicly a vegeterian plus trying natural stuff.


The swallowing was still messed up after months and months.I didnt get heart burn eitehr on that diet.

I lost 110 pounds.Guess what did not help one Ioda.


Hope you have better luck but most likely you will be wasting 6 months.

Not that it matters meds isnt helpen much either.

Tourmantiger, Nolique, res0kkw -
I posted my natural "remedy" for reflux - avoiding trigger foods. It's a few threads down on the front page of this forum. It may help you, may not, but it's free. I suspect no one diet works for everyone. By keeping a food log you can figure out if you have food sensitivities.

Tourmantiger - Congrats on losing the weight. I assume you did that on purpose. It's good to know that the veggie diet reduced the heartburn. I didn't have much luck with most acid reducers until I got on Nexium. That didn't stop reflux, but at least turned it into non-acid reflux. Then I finally found I have food allergies/intolerances and got rid of the reflux.

Nolique

First of all you made my day with your kind comment re the site I posted................I have been having one of those days where I am falling short in my own opinion and reading your comment lifted my spirits. Thank you.

Now for reflux:

It often can cause a range of symptoms such stomach pain after eating or laying down, vomiting, feeling of stomach fullness or incomplete/difficult swallowing, epigastric cramping and soreness, heartburn, bitter taste, and nocturnal wakening.

Other symptoms can include (although these can be from other causes as well):
Burping
Nausea and vomiting
Change in voice or hoarse voice
Sore throat
Coughing or wheezing
Asthma
Chest Pain
Upper abdominal pain
For myself I have certain foods that will regurge and I wake up choking or coughing with sour taste in my mouth. Sometime I feel like I will vomit.
I know others will be adding to this.
I wish you the best and I use Prilosec.

Nolique
Don't quit the Prilosec unless your doc says to. First, you'll get rebound acid. Second, your disease will progress. All the manufacturers say to stop the meds after a few weeks or so, but those of us with physical problems like weak LES stay on these meds for years. I was on since these meds were invented!

If you have non-acid reflux, which can be because your acid is controlled by the PPIs even though you are refluxing, you won't necessarily feel anything. I had this for many years.

You might be able to control the reflux portion of the disease by finding out what causes it. For me it was food intolerances/sensitivities/allergies. Keep a food log. Write down what you eat, the time, and any reflux symptoms after each meal. Then do "challenge testing" to find out which item in the meal is the culprit.

 

Hi Nolique,

I am Marie.

You have Gastritis and Esophogitis - perhaps, the best route is to talk to your dr. and see if you can be on PPI for  sometime so that your esophagus and your stomach heal from those erosion. Once they are clear, I think you can go on natural path slowly. Don't stop PPI cold turkey - it will hurt you. The important thing is you need to check with your dr and see if you sphincter is working normaly...

Don't jump too soon since you already have esophgitis - I believe it mean erosion of your esophogus.

If your sphincter is functioning well, I would think one should be on PPI and until you feel good. Than you can wean off the med slowly.

When it is time to wean off PPI -  instead of taking PPI every day, you would take it every other day for a few week. While you take it every other day, supplement it with naturnal DGL. Don't take PPI and DGL the same hour. Take them a few hours apart. By doing this, your stomach will come to harmony slowly... Good luck.

Marie 

 

HI Nolique,

Sorry - I didn't detail it. Actually, DGL Licorice (chewable) from nature's life.

I include this link for you:  http://www.amazon.com/Natures-Life-Chewable-Licorice-chewable/dp/B00014EEKM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1259122168&sr=8-5.

 

If the link doesn't work. Go to www.amazon.com and search for  -->  DGL Licorice. The best branch is Nature's Life - this one is not so bitter like other DGL. It give you a coffee taste. DGL is natural and it is almost equal to the strengh of tagament. DGL is good for stomach. Read more when you search for it on amazon and other site.

 

If you check with your dr, and if you sphincter is normal, you can slowly wean off the med.

 

Also, in the process that you are doing quite well without pain or reflux, you can add

manuka honey (http://www.manukahoneyusa.com/ManukaHoney.htm?gclid=CK7D-eimpZ4CFR5HagodTxAKmQ). I read that manuka honey help heal damage in the esophogus.

But you have to stop the reflux from keep washing up your esophagus. Manuka honey will definately a good helper. Click link above and read more about the good property of manuka...

However, if one keep getting reflux non-stop, than the manuka honey will not work in this case!

 

If you ever try to wean off the PPI med, be sure to take DGL along with it - but different hours.

It is safe and you can take DGL every day. You can also take another one along with DGL. It is called Mastic Gum 500 from Jorrow.

 

In the long run, and once you are able to get off of the PPI completly, you can continue to take DGL and mastic gum for a long while without any issue since they are nature thing. But one you feel better and no more reflux, etc., you can slowly wean off those nature one by one... And if you feel better, than you are home_free :)

 

When you take this natural things, it help your stomach and calm your stomach so that your stomach do not pump out so much acid that can hurt you. In otherwords,  if you wean of the PPI slowly over time, it give your stomach a chance to understand that it need to come back to normal.

Stoping PPI cold turkey - This is called Acid rebound - it can be very dangerous too, and you can be in a lot of pain. etc.

Take care.

Marie

 

Post Edited (mariex800) : 11/24/2009 9:42:24 PM (GMT-7)

Hi Marie, it's me again!

Have you ever tried the Bragg's apple cider(organic) method?  Some people swear by it.  Just curious?

Nolique

Hi Marie,

Happy Thanksgiving!  I am sorry to hear about your situation with the sphincter not working right.  Are there any good surgeries for you?  It sounds like you have tried many different ways to help with the gerd.  That would be frustrating.  I hope that the kangen water works for you.  I have heard good things about it too!  Can the Dr. tell by the endoscope if the sphincter is not working well? 

It sounds like there are alot of people who have this disease, so I am glad that we can all encourage each other.  My aunt and my mom and my sister all have gerd too.  My aunt has done the apple cider vinegar for the past two days and she says that she is not losing her voice like she was (she smoked for 30 years).  All of us have been coffee drinkers, so that may play a role as well as genetics.  I have completely given up coffee, tea and acidic foods, it has been a hard adjustment.  I am drinking chamomile tea tho.

I looked up all the products that you told me about and will go down to our health food store on Friday to get some of them for if and when I need them.  I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Nolique

I just found out from my surgeon I have polyps in my stomach from the long term use of PPIs. He also stated my LES is very weak and my HH is huge!
So I'm having the Hill Procedure 270 on December 22nd.

Joy

The Hill is similar to the Nissen except instead of taking two sides of the stomach and attaching them to each other, the Hill is only taking one side and wrapping it partly around the esophagus. He said I'd be able to burp, belch, and throw up without damaging it.
The polyps are small growths inside my stomach. Sort of like polyps in the colon, except I believe he said they are not a serious as them. I was kinda drugged when I was talking to him. Some of the conversation a little fuzzy. I've got pictures of them on my thread "I'm Back".
I can't have the first surgery I wanted (the EsophyX TIF) where they go down the throat. :(

I've been on PPIs for almost 10 years. Maximum dose for three years.

Joy

Hi Joy,

I am so glad for you.  It sounds like you have been through an awful lot and many years of PPI's.  You will be in my thoughts and prayers!

Nolique