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Posted 2/14/2012 2:29 AM (GMT 0)
Faith, I go to the gastro doc tomorrow and will ask him about the H. Pylori or LPR. God knows I've done everything else from this strange acupressure treatments to acupuncture and Chinese Herbs all with no effect. I was told it could have something to do with my phrenic nerve pressing against my diaphram which causes spasms but who knows! In fact lately it has been worse. All weekend it was nonstop even without eating and when I did eat (lovely fresh fish from Bristol Farms) it all came up and the belching continued unabated. My GI doc said that over the years he has seen this in a few patients, one so sever he had to quit his job. I still go to work and even though it is not a pretty sight I have learned to cope with it and sometimes even attempt to hide it as best I can. Of course not always successfully. The acupressure therapist was convinced I had gallbladder issues but the GI dismissed that as nothing showed up on my ultrasound or CT scan. I am thinking of maybe hypnosis but that sort of freaks me out. I don't know what this has done to your social life but it has certainly put a crimp in mine. I've almost given up going to the theater to see a play because the audience around me becomes horrified. I hate to have to live with this for the rest of my life but that may be the case. I'll lay what you said on the doctor tomorrow and see if a few more tests might turn up something. My lower tract seems fine, it's just the stomach on up!

Thanks for your input!
James
Posted 3/6/2012 5:22 PM (GMT 0)
My story is similar to likehome's story.

Chronic belching, bloating, dull ache in shoulder blades, sometimes sternum pain, sometimes excruciating lower back pain (not kidney pain I am used to feeling from kidney stones).

After many tests, they did a HIDA and found my GB to be functioning at 21%. (Normal is a result over 35%). According to my friend who works in another state doing HIDA's the dosage of the CCK injection given to me was almost 5 times the amount SHE would have administered. Her hospital bases the dosage on weight. Mine was not based on weight. So, that could mean my 21% is actually 'worse' than that depending on who you ask LOL

Anyways, I am scheduled for removal of the GB on the 15th. My u/s showed no stones, no inflammation, no abnormalities of the GB whatsoever but it is obviously 'sick' in some regard. I am anxious to get the pathology report that is for sure!!!

They 'say' gallbladder issues usually happen to those in the '4-F' category. Female. Fair. Forty. Fluffy.

I am female, 39, fair but not fluffy :)

Good Luck everyone!
-Beth-
Posted 3/6/2012 7:12 PM (GMT 0)
LittleB72

I had my gallbladder out so long ago that I do not remember what I had for tests - I believe it was a barium swallow as the HIDA was not available at that time.  I had no stones etc. the same as you but my gall bladder was full of a sandy, gritty material.  The surgeon actually brought my gallbladder in a pan to my hospital room to show my husband what he had found - gross shocked . 

Good luck with your surgery.

Kitt

Posted 3/28/2012 4:21 PM (GMT 0)
James: any updates?

The surgery went o.k. Two days later, I was belching again. Talk about frustrating! I had my follow-up with the surgeon on the 23rd. She suggested I start taking the Prevacid again now that my gb is gone. I started yesterday and didn't notice a difference all day. I took a pill this morning and have noticed a slight improvement. I hope it continues to improve but then the question becomes 'what is going on in my stomach to cause the belching but can be relieved with Prevacid'?

She wanted to do an upper GI but I told her I wanted my body to heal a little bit. I go back in a month. I will update again then.

-Beth-
Posted 3/29/2012 2:30 AM (GMT 0)
Beth, Update to date is no improvement. Belching daily with no let up except sometimes it will go into passive mode for about 5 days max and then return with a vengence. The last test I did was a motility study which showed everything "unremarkable". I'm scheduled for another CT scan for the upper part of my chest and throat. The last one was stomach and gallbladder which showed all normal. My doctor is stumped. I did bring up the gallbladder and he dismissed that as my scans showed nothing weird. He is concerned about my wheezing when I belch and hiccup for hours and have the air buildup and can't catch my breath for 20-30 seconds. He can't figure that one out but I told him that I sneeze after that and the belching will stop for awhile. My other doctor, a Cardiologist, thinks this will all go away if I lose 30 pounds and he might be right. You would think that after all the self-induced vomiting I do to try and stop an episode that I would shed a few pounds but I have maintained the same weight. I'll see what this latest CT scan shows and go from there. I may have to live with this rest of my life as it has now been 2 years of non-stop uncontrollable belching.
Hope you GB out will do the trick for you. Keep me informed as I may beg him to hank mine out. God knows, I've tried everything else!

James
Posted 1/6/2013 10:31 AM (GMT 0)
Hi.Just wondering did anybody find out there problems as I'm having symptoms since last march.Thanks
Posted 1/6/2013 12:21 PM (GMT 0)
I have a lot of belching especially when I get up in the morning, and when I eat or drink anything. I posted previously on this thread, I was surprised to read that my belching had stopped when I was on a ppi. Currently I just take 2-3 TUMS per day, and until a month ago I was taking Zantec. I'm currently working with a microbiologist at the Digestive Health Institute, Dr. Norm Robillard. I'm following the Fast Track for Heartburn diet, but it has not reduced my belching. You could arrange a phone consultation with him if you want a digestion perspective.
Posted 1/6/2013 8:19 PM (GMT 0)
I have a similar issue that I have mentioned on another board. I have not had surgery to repair my GERD and I also have a confirmed sliding HH. I have this similar belching issue, but not as bad. It's a cross between a hiccup and a burp and I can't control it. I have gotten much better at recognizing it's coming and then open my mouth enough to just let the belch / hiccup happen on it's own without any throat resistance (being a closed mouth, chewing, etc).

I find that this happens more to me after I drink or eat anything, and I have a feeling that it is a HH issue with me. I had these same spasms before I had bad GERD and they happened when I wasn't ready for them. I found that they really hurt in my diaphragm area. Probably what caused my HH in the first place.

I mentioned this to my GI and she said it's common. I didnt realize how much this happens in a day until I had to do the log for my 24hr ph test. When I was writing the log, I must of had a full page and a half of these burp/ hiccups. This reaction is always the same. Burp and then hick up a millisecond after. It's so annoying.

There was another post not too long ago that talked about this too. Look it up as I think it was from acidrefluxman.

All the best,

Chris
Posted 1/6/2013 8:32 PM (GMT 0)
I have the same issue! And most of the time, my burps need forcing to pass which makes me sound like I'm retching... :/ It's so horrible. I also get a vomit like taste in my mouth after burping as well sometimes. These only happen through forced burps though.

I'm only 18 and scared I may have any of the other things you guys have mentioned. H Pylori or something to do with my gallbladder.... :/ Thing is, the only other symptoms I get are nausea and feels like vomit is coming up my throat (feels chunky sometimes) sorry if too much info..

In the morning, it feels like something is coming up but doesn't go as far as my throat, I also find it hard to burp in the mornings until I eat or drink something. The feeling is almost as if your throat is tightening or something. Can't explain it any other way. It only lasts a couple of seconds but it's really uncomfortable.

Can anyone help?? Thank you!
Posted 1/7/2013 10:29 PM (GMT 0)
I have this same belching problem. I had it before having GB surgery 2 years ago and after! I also had HPylori and they treated it and a parasite...all clear now. Now with any gluten (even the smallest amount) I get heartburn (really burning around my heart), burning above my ribs/below breasts and BELCHING. It seems I am either gluten intolerant or have full blown Celiac disease. Still trying to get a diagnosis. Gluten sensitivity is definitely something I would advise you to look into with these symptoms. An easy thing to do for yourself; cut all gluten for a couple of weeks. (beware, it's hidden in almost everything that isn't fresh).

Post Edited (_lady_) : 1/7/2013 3:36:21 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 5/14/2013 3:13 AM (GMT 0)
Hi,

I hit my head over a year ago, compressing my spine and since then, I have had chronic burping too. When I sit at the computer or in the car, it's much worse, and yes I have burped a 1000 times a day sometimes. I think pressure from the rib cage or nerves running through the spine could be a cause. When I stretch gently or lay down I find relief - will have an MRI to see if I can nail it down.

Keep you posted.

JP
Posted 6/9/2013 9:35 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,
I too am belching all day. It started about 3 months I have had endoscopy, MRI with contrast, sibog breath test, ultrasound. So far all negative. No gull stones, no heliobacter. I was taking kefir for. A couple weeks when it started. Anybody have any ideas? So far I will look into hid a scan and giardia.
Luis
Posted 6/27/2013 1:10 AM (GMT 0)
Luke,
I'm sorry to hear you have what I have or something similar. I belch all the time, sometimes all day every day every few seconds with short periods of remission. Been going on now for over 2 years. I've had every test known to man and have seen countless doctors. All the test come back normal or "unremarkable" and all the doctors I have seen are stumped. They have theories that it is my diaphragm going into spasm but no clue how to stop it. I've had MRI, 2 CT scans, Motility Study, upper and lower GI, Endoscopy and colonoscopy. All come back OK. I've tried Chinese Medicine, Acupuncture, Osteopathic manipulation. Nothing has changed. Seems like you are just starting down this road so if you discover something that works please let me know. As of now I am just coping with it as the last therapy of biofeedback was a waste of time. Good luck!
James
Posted 6/27/2013 1:39 AM (GMT 0)
Hey,

I don't burp as much as you guys, but I was able to cut my 50 burps a day down to like 25 by taking baclofen though.
Posted 6/27/2013 5:56 AM (GMT 0)
I've been taking Baclofen for about 6 months or so now with no results. Burp as much as before but still take the stuff hoping it will eventually do something. Also take Valium sometimes because the Doctor said it was a good muscle relaxant but I still go into spasm. This condition is really weird and so frustrating because only one doctor that I have seen has experienced in another patient. That person was said to be worse than me because he had to quit his job. I still go to work everyday but I've learned to deal with it by trying various horrible methods to control it. That other patient just faded away according to my doctor and disappeared.
Posted 6/27/2013 8:17 PM (GMT 0)
Hi James,

have you tried to test your stomach acid?
Or support your stomach acid creation (or take supplements)? Maybe it is just too low...
?
I'm basically having the same problem as you and considering this option...

Post Edited (JAENSK) : 6/27/2013 2:39:54 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/27/2013 8:31 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't had the acid tested but I do take supplements and have taken them for years. I do take Aciphex or Prilosec every morning to keep the reflux from happening. If I skip that it can be more awful than usual. Funny thing about this is that I can go into a burping spasm whether I eat or not. Sometime I will eat something and start belching uncontrollably and the only way to stop it is to force vomit. Sounds disgusting but there it is. Next time I can eat the same thing and all is fine.
Let me know how the stomach acid test goes. I might do that as I have had every other kind of test.
Posted 6/27/2013 9:07 PM (GMT 0)
Stomach acid test
http://www.phcapsule.com/
The test is not available in country where I live.

Aciphex is a proton pump inhibitor it actually does the opposite (lowering down your stomach acid). Prilosec is about the same thing.
You could have some kind of fermentation process in your stomach due to low acid level (so bad germs are not killed by acid).

And what about food intolerances, allergies? Pancreatic enzymes?
Posted 6/27/2013 9:16 PM (GMT 0)
only thing is lactose intolerant but I have had that years before this problem ever started. Funny thing is that I had this problem 6 years ago and it lasted for 3 months almost non-stop and then it just stopped until it started again 2 years ago and has been going ever since.
Posted 7/8/2013 8:28 PM (GMT 0)
Dont relay on food intolerances usually an allergologist skip quite a lot of them...
Have you read about fructose malabsorption?
http://scdlifestyle.com/2010/09/why-fructose-malabsorption-causes-gas-cramping-and-diarrhea-and-how-to-bea-it/
just a thought... None of my doctors (4) have ever heard about it...
Posted 7/10/2013 4:34 PM (GMT 0)
A very nice article about Small intestine bacterial overgrowth

http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMarch2013/ibs0213.html

Symptoms of SIBO include:
• bloating/ abdominal gas
• flatulence, belching
• abdominal pain, discomfort, or cramps
• constipation, diarrhea or a mixture of the two
• heartburn
• nausea
• malabsorption: steatorrhea, anemia
• systemic symptoms: headache, joint/muscle pain, fatigue, rosacea

Diagnosis of SIBO: (the best 3 hours) hydrogen/methane breath test
Posted 7/18/2013 5:41 AM (GMT 0)
Ok. I spent ALOT of time on these forums looking for solutions to my burping problem and after finally finding a cure (for myself at least) I felt compelled to share in hopes that I could help someone else.  My story: 36 years old, healthy body, healthy eater.  One day I wake up and I burp ALL THE TIME. As soon as I wake up and as I am going to bed.  Always burping.  No matter what I ate, I burped.  I burped even when I didn't eat.  I burped every few seconds.  I could hide it mostly but it was SO irritating.  I went to a couple of doctors and they said "maybe heartburn" but I had no other symptoms.  No stomach pain, no heart burn, nothing.   So I refused to go on the drugs.  I did try some grapeseed concentrate which is supposed to be a natural antibiotic but anyways, nothing worked.  This went on for 7 months.  THEN... I was at a seminar at work that was about reducing stress and the trainer starts talking about breathing and how many people breathe too shallow and don't use their diaphragm at all.  So she had us breath really REALLY deep, like where you exit all the breath out of your lungs before you breathe in again and then you fill your lungs all the way up. I did this like 10 times in the seminar and the burping stopped.  Later on that day the burping started up again and I did the breathing again and it stopped it again.  That was about 2 months ago and I am happy to say that I only need to do the breathing exercise like once every 3 days or so.  I can't explain how this worked for me.  I don't understand how shallow breathing can cause a person to burp a lot. And why it would happen all the sudden like that to me.  It does not make sense.  But it has helped me with a very irritating condition and I'm hoping it can help someone else too. :)
Posted 7/26/2013 7:33 PM (GMT 0)
hi am new member, searching for help with symptoms of burping etc. everything I have read reassures me that I am not the only one like this.  had symptoms for over a year. had breath test for helicobactor which was neg but doc treated me anyway. during treatment symptoms vanished and I was delighted.  once treatment finished they returned but less severe. doc put me on 2 month course of ppi drug but it made me feel worse. am going to try what lealyn suggested to see if any improvement. keeping everything crossed rolleyes
Posted 11/11/2013 6:24 PM (GMT 0)
I just tried what lealyn said. I too have had this issue for well over a year. It's caused sleepless nights, dizziness, and a plethora of other very troubling issues, to say nothing of the inconvenience of the burping itself.

I pictured doctors visits aplenty, surgery, pills, the whole nine yards . . but breathing? I tried breathing as deep as I could ten times, and quickly there was a large reduction in my burping. It's still happening a little bit, but I'll come back and inform the rest of you if it keeps up with more practice.

Could you imagine if all we had to do to fix this was a freakin' breathing exercise?!?! This has been a nightmare!

Edit: I should mention that this *could* mean that our issues are stemming from a hiatus hernia, a stretching of the stomach above the diaphragm, something that could be caused by a weak diaphragm. It's something to look into.

Post Edited (MJMWeb) : 11/11/2013 11:32:47 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 11/12/2013 6:39 PM (GMT 0)
Day 1.5 of trying the breathing exercises treatment.

Yesterday, as I'm burping and reading this thread an hour after having a Wawa turkey sandwich with mayo and bacon (with a side of lattice cut kettle chips) I ran across what lealyn said. I immediately did the breathing exercises and the burping seemed to stop.

Okay, could be a fluke. I had been belching for over an hour, maybe I was just all done. It usually lasted longer than that and didn't stop so suddenly, but I was still reserving judgment.

More breathing before leaving for work. Car rides were especially problematic. I sang to Muse's "Resistance" album to keep my diaphragm working. One long stretch of burping (about four in a row) and that was it for the car trip. Still, could have been running on empty.

Dinner at Mexican Food Factory: Very little burping. Could be due to the fact it was a big meal with alcohol. Moderate alcohol consumption seemed to make the burping go away.

So the biggest test was for lunch today. I had the same thing as yesterday: White bread, spinach, mayo, bacon, and oven roasted turkey, made into a Wawa sandwich, with a side of lattice cut kettle cooked chips. I did the breathing exercises right before I ate. The result:

I have burped less than four times in the past two hours.

Four times? That's called normal! I'm ecstatic. To think this whole ordeal could be over with something so simple!

I'll post again later in the week, see if this is just one huge coincidence. I hope it's not.
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