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Posted Today 3:10 PM (GMT 0)
Have never had any issues with acid reflux till August of 2013 when I was eating lunch one day and a chip got caught in my throat ouchy, so that went from lunch to a chronic sore throat, went in to see the Dr she sent me for EDG showed microscopic

inflammation consistent with acid reflux  off you go take some PPI meds and all we be well, REALLY, it has been a nightmare for me, several PPI made me sick so I could not tolerate them at all....tried doing the natural thing but I could not tolerate the burning in my throat so much so it caused me ear aches mostly the right side of my throat and ear. In 2010 had ACDF one level healed well from that and throat went back to normal. Have had barium swallow that showed acid reflux, have not had ph test or any other, will see ENT soon, but feel like I am caught in a nightmare, hard to believe reflux can come on just like that, the LES just one day stops working???I hate to even wake up to start the day, I take one 20mg Pepcid and 20mg Prilosec twice a day along with lots of cough drops and ph balanced water and eat tiny meals, I have lost a lot o weight and feel yucky most of the time. After reading a lot of posts here I think I am LPR suffer. What a horrible deal for all of us, anybody have any all natural input, or a explanation of why the LES gets weak? Just so over it and looking for some answers surgery just seems so unsure as well:( Thanks to whomever responds

Posted Today 3:41 PM (GMT 0)
When do you feel the worst? Morning, noon or night time?
Posted Today 3:44 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for replying I would have to say afternoon time then again in the evening
Posted 11/30/2013 2:57 AM (GMT 0)
So..your onset was last August? You have not had GERD very long. You did not mention a hiatus hernia which they would have found during your EGD. Hernias can bring on symptoms quickly.

I would try a couple things that worked well for me. I managed my GERD for 35 years before some very violent coughing caused a hernia about 8 years ago.

In my case my GERD was very severe. I had deep lesions all along my esophagus and was sick and vomiting a lot. That was in 1976. A doctor recommended I raise the head of my bed 6 inches and see what happened. Within a week I was feeling better. I lowered the bed to about 5 inches where it remained elevated for about 35 years. I did not have an antacid in the house for that entire period.

The last eight years I have managed the GED with H2 blockers and PPIs. I have been on PPIs 8 years and it was fine at first. Then got heart palpitations from low serum magnesium caused by the PPIs. I found out how to treat that by taking magnesium chloride and calcium citrate. If you can avoid PPIs, avoid them. Try using H2 blockers like Zantac or Pepsid. Take them before each meal for a while to see if that helps.

Raising the head of your bed is a best, first remedy if it works for you. Its free and easy. Give it a try. My wife did not think she could tolerate it, but she aclimated quickly. Sleeping flat seems very weird after all this time elevated. Now we have a pair of adjustable beds so I can keep mine a bit higher.

Good Luck, Gunner
Posted 11/30/2013 2:51 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Gunner, sounds like I am right on track I take a Pepcid and Prilosec together in the am and then again late afternoon that seems to get me through to the next day, my bed is up already, I have followed all the so called rules of what do to and not, I gave up all crappy foods and coffee and tea at the onset of it all, I tried to stop the ppi but it just came back twice fold, as I see it really in comparison to some others I read about, I am really lucky. I miss choc and coffee and tea though that's for sure. Thanks again for ur reply it helps, Tami
Posted 11/30/2013 10:20 PM (GMT 0)
I've had acid reflux for a couple years that was just diagnosed two months ago. PPIs made me worse. Strangely enough (or not), a gluten-free diet has helped me a lot. No more coughing or sore throat for me. I had heartburn for a few weeks, but since eliminating coconut products from my diet, I've been fine.

There is a correlation (but not necessarily causation) between GERD/LPR and gluten sensitivity. Maybe get a blood test done for Celiac disease?
Posted 11/30/2013 11:22 PM (GMT 0)
You are so right I have been vegan and gluten free for a time now. I really love gluten free foods I think they taste so much better, I never suffer heartburn or stomach issues just a burning in throat and then of course sore throat, it seems like its a cycle for me, I love it when I get a day of no soreness in the throat would love it if it cold continue for more than a few days, maybe in time I will get there, sigh with a smile tongue
Posted 12/7/2013 4:15 AM (GMT 0)
Have had LPR for 8 years.

Tried everything under the sun.

It could be a digestive issue.

I know I have one. The doctor told me I had excess bile in my stomach.

In July I started taking the following digestive aids and my throat has significantly helped. I am 70% better.

10 minutes before meals : Organic India Trikatu (1 tablet -not sure of the mg but it is sold in one tablet size) comes in a 90 tablet bottle. For large or heavy meals, 2 tablets.

Upon waking 1 hour before eating. 1000 mg of triphala.

Before bed : 1000 mg tablet of triphala.

I bought the triphala in bulk and bought and a $15.00 capsule machine with empty 1000mg capsules.
Posted 12/7/2013 5:16 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Kevinla,

I am interested in your treatment as i have had LPR for about 6 months and it does not seem to change with double dose of PPI's such as my regular GERD.Did you consult a surgeon to see if fundoplication surgery would help?

Also what test did they do to indicate that you had too much bile in your stomach?So the bile would come all the way back up in your throat?That would cause the acidy, metallic,sour taste after each meal?The difference is the symptoms come soon right after the meal as for regular acid reflux it seems to come 1.5 2.5 hours after meals.             

Are the digestive aids that you take natural products with low side effects?Are they easy to find?

Do you also suffer from GERD?

Louis  

Posted 12/7/2013 2:01 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for your post would like to have more information of how or whom informed you of this bile in your stomach and what how you figured out what to take? I have never heard of this when you have time please give more detail thanks so much Tami
Posted 3/29/2014 8:00 PM (GMT 0)
Just wondering mermaidgypsy; was your only symptom sore throat? I have had chronic sore throat for a year. I've had 24 impedance, (negative), endoscopy (negative), blood test (negative). ENT looked down throat and diagnosed LPR (did not do nasal endoscopy), and ever since I've been trying to figure out if this LPR diagnosis was accurate. I have no evidence that it is., but cannot completely rule it out either as it's so hard to diagnose. Like you, I was fine one day and then not. I cannot believe the LES just stops working. It makes no sense to me. Anyway, I have not tried the PPIs and do not want to go that route. But everyday for a year, night and day, have had a sore throat that never goes away. It's very dry. Worse in evening, dry mouth at night. Are you still dealing with this? Just hoping for some input...thanks
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