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Posted 3/12/2014 4:14 PM (GMT 0)
See the video below:

http://youtu.be/cuiBGSt49SE

VIEW IMAGE

Post Edited (depressed123) : 4/21/2014 3:37:45 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/31/2014 7:55 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Depressed 123,

I've looked at your video, whilst I think that any ideas we have are worth considering I do find that yours has a few flaws.

How is the "machine" going to go up and down the LES, and what is enabling it to move up and down.

The shape of the machine will not be suitable for the area concerned, and anything with spikes on it no matter how small will damage the outside of the LES.

I really think the Endostim is a better, safer solution.

You are right about stress contributing to reflux, but I don't think it's the primary cause in a damaged sphincter, usually it's a hernia that has disrupted it.

Please keep on thinking of more inventions - the more we have the better for everyone. :-)
Posted 3/31/2014 11:51 AM (GMT 0)
Dear GC1pink,

How is the "machine" going to go up and down the LES, and what is enabling it to move up and down.

The engineer will do the job. It is not difficult for them to make a machine like this.

The shape of the machine will not be suitable for the area concerned, and anything with spikes on it no matter how small will damage the outside of the LES.

Like I said in the video, the real device does not look like this. It has different shape. Because I don't familiar with 3D application, so I can't build up an exact model like I want to. Sorry about this. So I just show how it works.

Everything of the device will be contained in a box, it won't damage the external of the LES or other organs around it. The spikes are not sharp. It won't hurt the LES. It fits the area. I have thought about these flaw just like you before I make the video, really.

I really think the Endostim is a better, safer solution.
The Endostim does not restore the LES pressure completely because electrical impulses cannot reverse the mucosal changes. So I think Endostim is not better than Nissen.
You are right about stress contributing to reflux, but I don't think it's the primary cause in a damaged sphincter, usually it's a hernia that has disrupted it.

Stress, hiatal hernia, overweight... all of them can be the primary cause in a damaged sphincter.

Post Edited (depressed123) : 4/11/2014 7:50:13 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/31/2014 1:15 PM (GMT 0)
Pink, you're the epitome of diplomacy.

I've also looked at the video. Based on what I've seen, I think I'll stick to the reflux.
Posted 3/31/2014 4:00 PM (GMT 0)
I have a bridge to sell too, if anyone is interested.
Posted 3/31/2014 4:09 PM (GMT 0)
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Posted 3/31/2014 4:09 PM (GMT 0)
If nothing else, depressed123, you're helping to lift our spirits!
Posted 3/31/2014 5:37 PM (GMT 0)
You guys are too funny! You cheer me up no end.

Gord-on any news back about the cell treatment?

My valve is undergoing evaluation at the moment so fingers crossed, I still think the best option out there at the moment is Endostim - now if you could just get it free on the NHS!

Theacidrefluxman - I would love a bridge but unfortunately I have spent all my money on prototypes :)
Posted 3/31/2014 6:55 PM (GMT 0)
Unfortunately not, Pink. I've tried to initiate contact and there's no response. I'll keep on trying though, as work and family commitments allow. In the meantime, we're pinning our hopes on your valve. No pressure.
Posted 4/1/2014 3:12 AM (GMT 0)
Gord-on,

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Cheers from Nigeria,

Nigerian Prince
Posted 4/1/2014 3:14 AM (GMT 0)
I just wanted depressed123's video. That is comedic genius. There is no way that he is being anything but facetious and it is hilarious. Lol, awesome.
Posted 4/1/2014 3:17 AM (GMT 0)
That is so darn funny. The only way to improve the design is to replace the spikes with a cheese grater, and have a small tube that automatically fills up with lemon juice connected to a backpack that the user wears full of lemon juice. When the spikes or grater are in motion, the tube automatically lets out some juice to soothe the massaged area. Haha. Throw that on something like Kickstarter.

Edit: Just got to the part of the video with the electric impulses. That's great. Shoot them through the spikes right into the nerves, and make them more potent with the lemon juice to conduct electricity. Design it so that every now and then a strong surge comes in just to make the regular ones more comfortable. Wow, this is the best thing ever posted here.

Post Edited (theacidrefluxman) : 3/31/2014 9:20:06 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/1/2014 4:18 AM (GMT 0)
As a side note, actually everyone has a HH. Just not everyone's is large enough to cause issues. In order for the esophagus to go through the diaphragm there must be a hole and it can't be overly tight= HH.

Got to watch this video now. Okay, watched the vid. I am not convinced. How is smashing a sphincter muscle going to restore it? Ugly thought, but the LES is similar to the anus. Sometimes they don't work well and/or are damaged.

Take care,
Bill
Posted 4/1/2014 6:55 PM (GMT 0)
It is funny but if we were in a vacuum and some guy had a video about taking pills every day to stop acid production, while leaving the reflux issue unsolved, we would have probably had a similar reaction to this guy's vid.
Posted 4/2/2014 1:35 AM (GMT 0)
@theacidrefluxman:

I like your idea of new device, I will try this some day after I was cured from this disease, I swear.

Medicine is like immeasurable ocean. Remedies is like something that under the ocean floor. You hardly see it. Something that you can't explain it but it happens.

You can laugh at me if you want, and I don't care. Why should I care? I just shrug my shoulder and continue my process.

And I don't want to be something or someone that is famous. I just want to be a normal person, healthy person.

@you all:

I found out that all the factors such as stress, overweight, hernia,... can cause the weakening of the LES, not only stress, interesting. And I know how it happens. I will updated another video to correct my previous video and explain them.

Post Edited (depressed123) : 4/2/2014 4:36:27 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/2/2014 10:05 AM (GMT 0)
The method that I try to cure GERD named DIEN CHAN. See the video below, you can see these tools using to treat sweaty hands and feet disease:
http://youtu.be/aUa-Us39x7A

Here is some site of DIEN CHAN method if you don't believe me:
http://dienchan.co.uk
http://dienchan-federation.fr

Some people are watching how to use DIEN CHAN method:
http://images03.olx-st.com/ui/4/10/85/1266944263_75850585_9-Cours-de-Dien-Chan-a-Paris-Paris-1266944263.png

After the final exam, I got both GERD and sweaty hands and feet. I use DIEN CHAN method to cure my sweaty hands and feet. The spikes can massage the nerves and strengthen the nerves. You know, inside your hands and feet have a lot of nerves. And yes, my sweaty hands and feet disease have been cured.

I use the NTK device to massage the LES nerves. Stress, overweight, hernia... are the factors that cause the weakening of the nerves inside the LES muscle.

No one try this before, so how do you know it doesn't work?

Post Edited (depressed123) : 4/2/2014 4:23:30 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/2/2014 2:28 PM (GMT 0)
depressed,

I believe the members are looking for tried and true scientific data from studies done by experts in the field. 

I am not laughing at you.  If you believe what you are doing to help yourself is working than it is.  

I wish you luck.

Kitt

Posted 4/2/2014 6:42 PM (GMT 0)
I didn't look at this video, but my SIL once mentioned a massage technique for this valve. I believe that is practiced in the naturopathic community.
Posted 4/3/2014 2:39 PM (GMT 0)
@ depressed123

Why the spikes on the roller? Why not smooth?
Posted 4/4/2014 1:15 AM (GMT 0)
@theacidrefluxman:
It's something related to physics, see the picture below:
http://upanh.biz/images/2014/04/04/why.jpg
My english skill is limited, so I can't explain it clearly. You can see the F1 divided into a lot of F childs and the F2 only divided into 4 F childs. The 4 F childs will pierce the ground more than the a lot of F childs do.

So the roller with spikes on it will be effective than the smooth roller.

Post Edited (depressed123) : 4/4/2014 12:15:44 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/4/2014 4:43 PM (GMT 0)
I've contacted a doctor. He agrees to support me about informations of human anatomy and other informations that I need.
Posted 4/5/2014 1:29 AM (GMT 0)
@ depressed123

That explanation explains why it would be better to have 20 spikes than 4 spikes. But why not have 0 spikes, or have gentle ondulations?
Posted 4/5/2014 2:41 AM (GMT 0)
@ theacidrefluxman

OK, I will explain it simply. See the picture below:
http://upanh.biz/images/2014/04/05/why.jpg

You can see the roller without spikes won't touch the nerve plexus much while the roller with spikes touches the nerve plexus deeply.

The purpose of the roller is to massage the nerve plexus inside the LES, not only the LES muscle. So the roller with spikes will be more effective than the roller without spikes.
@stkitt: thank you

Post Edited (depressed123) : 4/7/2014 3:15:29 AM (GMT-6)

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