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Posted 9/15/2014 2:27 PM (GMT 0)
I guess everyone is different because carafate was the only thing that got my stomach pain under control, especially being diligent with it.

I also switched from Omerprazole to Protonix and that made a real difference as well.
Posted 9/15/2014 2:46 PM (GMT 0)
Raw veggies with this is a big no no which is what I think brought on mine along with skipping too many meals and when I would eat, I would eat for three.
Posted 9/15/2014 3:10 PM (GMT 0)
Jeff, I would lay off the fruit juices. Apple juice is extremely acidic.
Posted 9/15/2014 9:43 PM (GMT 0)
Lol..... Yeah you could name the song "gastritis blues", sing about the pains in the stomach and can't get no relief ****, that'd be hilarious! I'm jealous, you can have ale and be ok haha, wish I could! :( oh well maybe later. My stomach has been pretty good the last 2 days, hopefully it continues. Do you get back pain with this too? I sure do, when it's flared up it hurts worse!
Posted 9/15/2014 9:48 PM (GMT 0)
That's cool you were in a band for that long wow! I record my own music too, now a days it is easy with the technology, I like mostly heavy metal but some blues and classic rock too. Like I said, it's a good distraction from my stomach pains!
Posted 9/15/2014 10:13 PM (GMT 0)
Treeofstars- yeah I agree with you about raw veg, or if they're not cooked well and are hard then it really causes havoc on my stomach! Even salad if I eat very much it causes probs. Apple juice I heard was supposed to be good for it, no? I drink a lot of carrot juice and coconut water also. So the carafate got rid of your prob or just helped? I'm still taking it, maybe just have to give it more time
Posted 9/16/2014 4:37 PM (GMT 0)
Ha ha nice one Jeff- yes reckon I will work on that wink the technology came a bit late for our band sadly- our live performances were caught on the desk and I only have them on cassette (!) now apart from a CD we managed to cobble together fro some old studio recordings- so different now- gutted we never benefited fro YouTube!
My stomach is a bit prickly today but put that down to foolishly eating a slice of coffee and walnut cake my wife's Aunty made me- I did really enjoy the beer but you just never know which way it's going to go. We are going to a friend's s place for a meal on Saturday and whereas once would have looked forward to it now am slightly dreading it in case I suffer. It is such a horrible thing.
Re the back ache - yes I get that too - for a while I was getting bad pain in between my shoulder blades ( a friend who also suffers gets that too) but luckily that doesn't seem to be a feature now- it's mainly stomach discomfort and/ or an acidy throat with a constant need to clear my throat.
Hoping to get through dinner tonight but increasingly feeling like that I might not- my mess are due in an hour so fingers crossed!
Cheers
Posted 9/16/2014 4:38 PM (GMT 0)
Ps apple juice is ok for me provided it's the pure not concentrated stuff
Posted 9/16/2014 5:38 PM (GMT 0)
I guess back pain comes with gastritis, I get it in my lower and middle back! Almost as irritating as the stomach pains sometimes but I've been doing much better lately. I just started taking pepzin GI about a week ago and slippery elm more frequent and I feel it's doing a lot of good, I have looked at other posts from people about pepzin gi and it's all positive, I haven't found 1 bad thing about it! Seems to help our condition a lot. I have also checked posts about omeprasole and it's the opposite, I haven't seen 1 good thing about it! Everyone says it doesn't help the pain at all and causes side effects! Doctors prescribe that all the time and I don't see why, didn't help me one bit. The slippery elm I swear by too, every time I get the prickly feeling, I drink a half glass of water with a tablespoon of the powder form(which makes a thick drink) my pain goes away! My wife gets frustrated sometimes too cause we can't hardly go to restaurants cause almost everything on menu's aren't good for gastritis but, I just tell her.... Well, it's either I stick to my diet or I will be in pain, you don't want that do you? Lol, she says noooo. Hopefully I can get back to normal soon, I'm sick of having to worry about what I eat and if it'll cause me pain! Take care, TTYL
Posted 9/16/2014 6:48 PM (GMT 0)
Cheers Jeff- my wife bless her is fed up to the teeth with me/it -but as i say to her not a fraction as much as I am pi**** off with it!!! I've not come across the Pespin GI before -what is it? I wonder if its called something different in the UK? (anyone help?) I will try to get hold of that slippery elm stuff-sounds weird but hell I will give anything a try now! Re the omeprazole-I know there is a lot of posting against it here but can only say that for nearly 8 years it has been a wonder drug for me and restored my quality of life-its such a drag that it no longer seems to work for me and certainly since I have been on the big dose it has made me feel unwell and far more anxious. I've been doing relatively ok on the Ranitidine this last 10 days or so but have had a couple of painful episodes of indigestion which made me take some Gaviscon. I take my sample in next Monday =and then being the NHS have to wait another week for the result-i think i will stay on the Ranitidine until i get the result-then whatever happens am going to try which you yanks seem to be very positive about -Look after yiourself and have a pain free night (about to eat dinner so fingers crossed; then another boring night without wine :()
Posted 9/16/2014 7:34 PM (GMT 0)
Croft- if you go on either amazon.com or eBay and search pepzin gi it'll come up, same with the slippery elm. Pepzin gi has a combination of zinc and L-camosine in it. It's supposed to strengthen the lining and aids in healthy gastric function, promotes healthy mucus secretions from the stomach cells. So you're waiting results for H Pylori? They checked that on me too during endoscopy and it came back negative which I'm glad about. I know what you mean about being fed up with this, my favorite meal is spaghetti and I can't even think about eating something like that lol, I'd really pay dearly if I ate spaghetti! I had a steak Saturday tho and didn't cause me probs so at least I can have that! :) hope your dinner went well.
Posted 9/16/2014 7:46 PM (GMT 0)
Cheers Jeff-bizarrely I want my rest to be positive! I need an explanation as to why things have changed for me and would love the chance to blitz it with antibiotics and get back to normal=I'm expecting a negative tho tbh,
Steak never causes me problems either -(I am so boring as I always have steak and mushrooms with asparagus on a Thursday night :)) please God that never changes as its one of my few food choices I can be pretty confident about. Our friend's dinner on Saturday is a jokey 'themed' evening where we all have to dress and eat the food of a country chosen at random-and guess what they bloody chose? Quatar!!! great -can't wait to see what that food does to me (not) :)
Will check out the Pepzin sounds interesting. If you are on omeprazole long term would recommend you take a magnesium supplement-made me feel a whole lot better-I take one every day now along with selenium
cheers, Nigel :)
Posted 9/16/2014 8:09 PM (GMT 0)
How about Chinese food? Does that give you probs if it's not the spicy kind? If you like Chinese food that is...... Yeah steak, baked fish, and chicken doesn't bother me. Pork does tho and hamburger meat also. What is quater? I'm not sure I've heard of that before.
Posted 9/16/2014 8:19 PM (GMT 0)
Qatar the arab country :)-suspect the food will be spicy -its such a shame as when I'm well really enjoy trying different food-havent been able to do so with any confidence for months now though which is a real pain as we love etaing out and the last couple of times we did it I was in pain (Italian the last time)
Chinese? Im no big fan so haven't tried it since I became ill in April-but doubt it would be a problem as its quite light-only worry would be the monosodium glutemate?
Fish is ok for me as well-I haven't had any problems with pork so far but again don't eat a lot unless its in sausages -tell you something else i find good is risotto-can eat that no problem. If I am ill with it the only thing I can tolerate is scrambled egg-which really helps to settle the stomach. We should do a cook book :) N
Posted 9/16/2014 8:21 PM (GMT 0)
ps i read that apple juice is supposed to be good for gastritis as well-as we speak I am drinking an apple and raspberry juice drink having survived (and enjoyed ) a beef stewfor dinner
Posted 9/16/2014 8:41 PM (GMT 0)
Ooooooh I had Indian food 1 time way before I got this prob and got a medium spicy dish and holy crap it was hot, I though to myself..... This is medium? I wonder what hot is then! It was pretty good but even gave me heartburn then and this was like 8 years ago, I'd be careful with that quater if it's spicy, you'll be in big pain! Yes, I love Italian food and there's barely any of it I can eat now, I wonder what Italian people do when they have gastritis haha, be in pain all day? Scrambled eggs are ok for me if I use veg oil to fry in and just have a small portion. Apple juice- yes, I was confused when that person said apple juice is acidic and bad as I've read also that apples and apple juice is recommended for our diet. Never bothers me along with grape juice and rasberry, blueberry juice. Of course no orange, grapefruit, tomato, lemon, cranberry juices those are all bad for it
Posted 9/16/2014 8:55 PM (GMT 0)
Ps- can you tolerate salad and if so, what kind of dressing can you put on it?
Posted 9/16/2014 9:26 PM (GMT 0)
Normally I am fine with salad and put on olive oil and just a little bit of balsamic vinegar-I find rocket rather than lettuce is best for me-agree about all the no no juices-although oddly I can eat tomatoes with no apparent problems but everyone says they are bad. Also interested to see you say no cranberry juice? That is another thing that I have read is good for gastritis =have tried it and had no problems
Posted 9/16/2014 11:08 PM (GMT 0)
Oh I guess everyone's different, tomatoes mess me up bad now and I really like them, cranberry juice gave me probs when I tried it, I read mixed things about cranberry, I've heard it's good for it on 1 article then I read a diff article and it says not to drink it so I just stay away from it since it causes my stomach to burn once, afraid of it now haha. Salad I'm confused too cause last time I had a big salad with vinaigrette dressing about a month ago and it set it off bad for 2-3 days I was hurting. Maybe a small portion with mix of soft lettuce and spinach would be ok tho. Maybe I'll try it how you eat it and see. I notice that store bought salad dressing has a lot of herbs added to it so that could be the prob too.
Posted 9/17/2014 7:30 AM (GMT 0)
Yes salad is a funny one as recently have found that lettuce tends to not be digested too well - I eat rocket leaf salad as a preference which is much better and tastier than lettuce anyway- spinach should be fine as well I've eaten that in a mix with rocket and no probs.
Key for me is not letting the stomach get too empty so keep to the 'little and often' regime and you should be ok
Cheers🍷
Posted 9/17/2014 4:43 PM (GMT 0)
Do you drink tea at all? I usually drink a few cups of ginger tea per day, seems to sooth my stomach some. Had a peach with my breakfast this morning and caused a little prob, not bad but noticeable. Usually peaches are fine but maybe I got too full after it, I should've waited till the other food settled. I swear it doesn't take much to set the pain off again, the slightest thing can make it start up again! Oh well, at least it's a minor one haha
Posted 9/17/2014 5:25 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Jeff yes I do drink tea a lot as a typical Brit-I drink a relatively strong ordinary tea for breakfast then during the day sometimes go for a weaker one like Darjeeling. it doesn't seem to cause any problems for me. I do occasionally drink Licorice tea as when it started i tried all sorts of herbal teas and that seemed to be good once I had got used to it (its a bit sweet) I have tried the ginger tea -its strange as its spicy and you would think it would aggravate it wouldn't you ? so I only had it a couple of times-I know its supposed to be good so will try it tomorrow and see if it helps me. Chamomile tea is good as it also relaxes you -something which is vital (certainly for me- being uptight or worrying is the worse thing for setting me off at the moment).
Odd re the peach but the trouble is (as you know by now) it is often illogical -times when you think your stomach is fine only to have a bad reaction to something which is normally no problem.! confused
the biggest problem of all is that you can never fully relax as you are always anticipating the next flare up-that is what is so wearing don't you think?
N
Posted 9/17/2014 5:47 PM (GMT 0)
Yes I drink chamomile tea as well mostly in evening cause it helps me unwind after driving all day, I'd like to try licorice tea but it's nowhere in stores here, maybe need to order it online. Yes absolutely about the worrying makes it worse, every time I eat I'm at least a little worried about if I'm gonna get a flare up or not! In fact, most of the day my mind is on my stomach, can't help it. It sucks to think about this constantly! It was fine after my regular breakfast but then I add a peach on top of it and there it goes again! I'm thinking.... Why the hell is a peach bothering it? confused this is BS! Yes the ginger tea is kinda spicy and it would seem like it'd bother it but it doesn't for me anyway. I like the taste a lot.
Posted 9/17/2014 6:29 PM (GMT 0)
Yes me too Jeff! I think about it all the bloody time its so depressing! I'm sure you will be able to get licorice tea bags on line so give them a whirl. I know the not worrying thing is easier said than done- I have actually taken up meditation ( sounds very hippy trippy I know ) which really does work ( I was v sceptical) and I try to do 10 minutes a day - I tend to be more dedicated when going through a bad patch though- i just followed an indian guy's instructions on you tube at first- also went to à couple of classes ( although I got à bit bore with them as tended to be a bit 'out there' and repetitive ) but now just put some Ravi Shankar on the iPhone and set the timer for 10 mins- it really does make a difference😊😊🍷- i do balance this healthy stuff though with plenty of red wine 😊🍷🍷the most effective of all ha ha
Posted 9/17/2014 7:41 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah I'd have to learn how to meditate too, not sure how to do it. I know it's supposed to relax you. Prob would help. Wish I could have a few glasses of wine, you'll have to have a few for me haha. I figure if I can go 1 month without pain then I'll try a few drinks. Do you eat yogurt? I eat tons of it, the plain mostly. I put it on baked potato too in place of sour cream and it's good! Of course sour cream is better but, that's on the no list I read. I've always liked yogurt anyway so I don't mind that.
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