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Posted 11/21/2014 3:38 AM (GMT 0)
I went to my doctor 5 weeks ago because I've been having trouble swallowing. It feels that food is getting stuck at the base of my throat and sometimes I get pretty severe pain in my chest with it and have to cough hard to get it to go down or come back up. I have to take tums pretty often. Also my stomach fills full all the time. No appetite and like my stomach is in my chest.

That week I had a barium swallow test. The only thing it showed was that the pill got caught up a little before it went into the stomach but a couple swallows of barium liquid sent it down quickly.

A week later I had an EGD. The doctor thought he'd be in there a half hour based on the swallow test. He was in for an hour taking biopsies. He biopsied four polyps that cam back benign. He took biopsies in my stomach and esophagus. I have a healing ulcer and lesions in my stomach. I also provided a stool sample.

I met with him last week and the biopsy of my esophagus shows that the cells are elongated. He diagnosed me with H. pylori based on the stool sample. I have no idea how I got that. He also diagnosed me with gastritis and gastroduodenitis. And GERD. I'm on a 14 day course of antibiotics and prilosec to get rid of the H. Pylori. After the antibiotics stop I can't have any ant-acids of any kind until a follow-up stool sample in 2 months. He also mentioned if diet change and weight loss don't stop the reflux I can go on a pill or have surgery.

He did not specify at the time what those were. I'm assuming a PPI but not sure what the surgery would be. I'm 33 and only about 20 pounds over-weight. I started the antibiotics for the H. pylori and have lost 7 lbs in the week and feel like its mostly bloat.

I'm pretty disturbed by this diagnosis as he indicated risk of cancer in the future. My family has a huge track record with cancer.
Posted 11/21/2014 10:03 AM (GMT 0)
Hi,

Welcome to Healingwell Forums!

You see H.pylori can increase your Acid level very very high, and it produces as acid reflux as GERD, but when you eliminate the H.pylori, your acid level will go down as because it won't interact with H.pylori anymore. You see h.pylori makes your acid very aggressive and make huge amount acid in your stomach.

Your Doctor is wrong, not 2 months but 6 weeks, but you must get off the medication 2 weeks notice before doing the stool sample again.

I don't think you have GERD but as normal acid reflux for temporary because of h.pylori. When you eliminate h.pylori, give time your body to heal up about 3 months at least and than go to Endoscopy again.

I have previous 2 people needed it for help with h.pylori. here is my old post! read it carefully


https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=3182369

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=3192133


You must not eat those foods:

1. No sugar, chocolate or sweets or honey or biscuits.

2. No fry foods

3.No fizzy drinks and no juice as sugar that contains and no Orange and no lemons.

4. No yogurts or milk until you finishe your medication.


1. Brocolli is very good and it can help to kill H.Pylori with antibiotics and Fresh Garlic. Brocolli must not be boiled because it will destroy all the minerals, you can eat it as when you buy it and it taste very good.

2.Vegetables, Fish in oven and boiled chicken and white rice.

3. Drink plenty water
Posted 11/21/2014 10:13 AM (GMT 0)
First of all concentrate on killing h.pylori first, because that is the most highest priority at the moment. How many antibiotics are you taking a daily?



Second,

Can I ask as you stated that you are only about 20 pounds over-weight, what is your exactly weight in KG and loosing completely weight of your fat in the body all over as slimming it, it can help reduce huge amount symptoms of reflux. Listen forget about GERD at the moment, change your lifestyle for a little while with diet and loosing weight and eliminating H.pylori, wait for 3 months and than see how much improvement you can have. Also having h.pylori your poo toilet is different color as black and you have smell in your mouth as bad and you might have a lot of sore throat as well if you have occasionally. If you have a lot of bloating, have yogurt, it helps a lot to eliminate!
Posted 11/21/2014 11:15 AM (GMT 0)
I do wake up with sore throat a lot. I also hiccup a lot at random times but almost always when I eat. It always tastes like acid. And this has been happening for a couple years. I was also diagnosed celiac at the time that started so I figured it was related to that. Oops. The change in poo and almost overnight 7lb weight gain started a couple months ago. It was all bloat. That was a typo it should say 30lbs over weight. My doc would be happy with 30 but if I could get 40lbs off that would be better. I have Polycycstic Ovarian Syndrom and it's made crazy hard to loose weight and easy to gain. Through diet and exercise I've been able to hold steady for the last few years.

I take Prilosec twice a day before meals. I take bactrim and amoxycillian twice a day.
Posted 11/21/2014 11:38 AM (GMT 0)
Hi,

You are in standard Antibiotics for the moment, it mean you are taking early morning and late evening.

Because you might have not realized that you have h.pylori at all, some people have symptoms of h.pylori and some don't have it yet. I was just like you, always thinking that loosing is hard to loose but its not but working hard for exercise it will get your life back. Do running outside for atleast in 1 hour and come back home and do abs for your belly.

For the moment try to eliminate the h.pylori first. Remember do twice stool sample to be sure that is negative of 100%.

As 3 months, try Enzyme Digestive, this will help your digestive to work well.
Posted 11/21/2014 4:50 PM (GMT 0)
That should be amoxycillian and biaxin.
Posted 11/22/2014 12:26 AM (GMT 0)
I wish you best luck on your antibiotics! be strong
Posted 11/22/2014 12:44 AM (GMT 0)
Ninjakiller - i'm curious why you think I don't have gerd?
Posted 11/22/2014 7:01 AM (GMT 0)
Hi,

I never said you don't have GERD bu you do have GERD because of H.pylori that triggered, but when treating with antibiotics, your GERD well eventually disappear for quite while.

You see you do have symptoms alot of GERD that has been created by h.pylori, but you than went to do EGD on that time on your presents symptoms with h.pylori, ofcourse it will show GERD that is triggering by h.pylori. Even who took your biopsy they would know that you have h.pylori, even from stool sample, they should have explained you well how all this works.

Also forget about surgery please, you must treat H.pylori, if you don't treated it and leave it like that and thinking like that you want to do surgery, even you have surgery it won't help you because h.pylori can make your life as hell as it will make it worse for your symptoms, even create new once for you.
Posted 11/22/2014 7:14 AM (GMT 0)
1. Eliminate H.pylori, as completely with 2 or 3 times stool sample again to be sure that is gone, because sometimes in first course antibiotics won't work, than they put you on quadruple therapy that can kill 90% successful of h.pylori,,, for that you must take 4 times daily antibiotics as 3000mg as total.

2. Change your lifestyle, eat more healthier foods, no fry foods or to much spicy foods and no any kind of fizzy drinks, even not chocolates.

3. Exercise as loose weight completely, loosing completely from your belly it will help also put down completely pressure on your stomach. You can do it but you need to believe in yourself that you are confident person who can bring your life back with healthier way.

I was overweight, I was 115KG but now 78KG, I never believed or wanted to try harder to loose weight, but than I understood that I can do it, why other people can but I can't, I than tried very hard and it worked. Don't give up the hope you have now.
Posted 11/22/2014 7:18 AM (GMT 0)
Sorry I forgot to ask you, do you have white tongue?
Posted 11/22/2014 7:28 AM (GMT 0)
Yes. White tongue.
Posted 11/22/2014 12:20 PM (GMT 0)
White tongue as Thrush can be related to Antibiotics and even bacteria. When you finish your medication, you can try to stop any food that is related to yeast, like bread the most, brush and mouthwash, use salt water to gurgle it.

You can use tongue scraper to remove it as little bit.

Mine is getting better as slowly!
Posted 11/22/2014 12:23 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry forgot to ask you, how is your appetite, have you lost you appetite? Because H.pylori can effect that, if you don't have it that's a good thing, but also having antibiotics, you might become a weak alot and dizziness, hard to walk, but its good to walk outside for fresh air... Look after yourself well


I will be here if you need any help with updates you require! I will do my best
Posted 12/3/2014 12:36 AM (GMT 0)
I've been done with my antibiotics for a few days now and I must say that it was not pleasant at all. I sure hope it got rid of the H. Pylori.

I ended up getting a pretty bizzare side effect from the biaxin. My msucles started twitching non-stop. It last for an hour the first time and then followed by a general shakiness for a few days but went away and hasn't returned. I went to the doc and he was fairly certain it was a side effect. Other than that just the upset stomach, gassy, burbing and metallic taste. Insomnia too. I lost 9 pounds in two weeks but actually felt like I had an appetite for the first time in months. I had a few days of really bad heartburn. I haven't been burping/hiccuping much in the past couple days since stopping the antibiotics but when I do it hurts my esophagus. I've woke up the last couple nights with an extremely sore throat though I feel better that I have in awhile. It doesn't feel like a sore throat from a cold coming on.
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