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Posted 10/13/2013 11:41 AM (GMT 0)
Hi there.

let me introduce myself.

I have been suffering, real suffering smhair for years. I had so much pain which felt like colic pain and doctors told me it was IBS and that I had to live with it. (They say I still suffer from ISB as well although I think they call everything they do not know ISB)

After the pain getting worse and longer the doctor did an echo and discovered gallstones. )this after 3 or 4 years) eyes He was not 100% sure if the pain could be from that but we decided best option was that my bladder would be removed.

After surgery I felt so much better but after a year or so I again felt pain high under my breast. (apparently I was so lucky to have 2 different pains and problems)

In hospital I had some scopies and I was told I suffer from GERD. The doc told me there were only 2 options left. I could try amitryptiline and if that would not work pain therapy or something.

Well I was for once lucky cause the amitryptiline did help. I also discovered that eating bread which I did (and still do) a lot was also a pain causer so now I bake my own spelt bread.

Now why am I telling you all this.. (English is not my first language as you probably already noticed ) idea

Because over the last 3 to 4 weeks all of a sudden I feel so nauseous. I thought that was because I had been prescribed something like diclofenac. I stopped taking those but that is 2 weeks ago and i still feel nauseous.

I also started having weird skin rashes that itched but I stopped taking that medicine for 2 months as well.
Nothing in my eating patterns has changed.

I already visited the doctor. (this is the normal doctor, not the one from hospital who told me I have gerd) and he also thought it was perhaps a side effect from the nsaids, but for weeks?

Now I found this forum where there are other GERD people, maybe they recognize this?

I just find it so weird cause out of this 1 month 3 weeks o those I have been feeling nauseous and it feels it is not getting any better but worse,

Thanks. Hope this is readable at last. cool
Posted 10/13/2013 3:10 PM (GMT 0)
Wait Maybe I should have just asked this...


Can those nsaid medicine have given me this upstart of my GERD?


and question 2: While using those nsaid meds I only felt a bit of heart burn in the morning but it seems I got sick both times once I stopped using them. Can tha be the case feeling sick from meds after you used them not during?

I am on the max dose of nexium. have been for many years and I am pissed of at my doctor cause I specifically went to him asking him if I should take those pills and he said yes. Sorry but it sucks so much to be so nauseous. not as bad as being in pain of course but not fun.
Posted 10/13/2013 7:05 PM (GMT 0)
Ilsie,
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), common causes of peptic ulcers, may also cause GERD or increase its severity in people who already have it. There are dozens of NSAIDs, including over-the-counter aspirin, ibuprofen (Motrin, Advil, Nuprin), and naproxen (Aleve), as well as prescription anti-inflammatory medicines. People with GERD who take the occasional aspirin or other NSAID will not necessarily experience adverse effects, especially if they have no risk factors or evidence of ulcers. Acetaminophen (Tylenol), which is NOT an NSAID, is a good alternative for those who want to relieve mild pain without increasing GERD risk. Tylenol does not relieve inflammation, however.

I strongly suggest you see a GI specialist to discover the cause of your current symptoms and yes, I think your Dr. should have warned you about NSAIDS ~ most of us believe that our DRs. would only give us the best advice.

I am sorry this has happened to you.

Kindly,
Kitt
Posted 10/14/2013 8:26 AM (GMT 0)
Oh yes! NSaids are bad for people with GERD issues.

Take care,
Bill
Posted 10/14/2013 11:31 AM (GMT 0)
stkitt. O thank you so much. I am feeling quite alone. sometimes it feels nobody understands. My daughter accused me of playing the victim (something I hate!) because I said i was so nauseous. I do understand she gets sick of having a mum that is sick but come on. She is 23! (Thank God I still have my humour) smilewinkgrin and my dad the only one who understands is recovering from surgery because of colon cancer.

I had to take those nsaid pills for another doctor because of my meniscus that apparently had wear but no tear, but after a while I felt a bit nauseous in the mornings and did not really see or feel the benefits of taking them.

So I visited my GP and I asked him if I should continue with these pills and he said yes. Is it something he should have known? That GERD and Nsaid do not mix well?

The thing is, the doctor I see for GERD is not easy to reach. It would take a few weeks to be able to see him.

Today I decided not to drink any coffee. (this sucks cause I love my 3 cups of coffee per day. I enjoy the little things in life and coffee is one of them). instead I drink water.
So today only water and bread with cheese. See if that helps. (so far not really)

I tried to contact my doctor but he will call me in Wednesday, he is not here.

My question is: So it is possible that the side effects of medication can hit you not while taking them, but afterwards? I never knew this.


So glad I discovered this forum.

Thanks Kit and Bill. :-)
Posted 10/14/2013 5:27 PM (GMT 0)
Ilsie,
First of all I would like you to know I am here for you and will try to give you as much info as I can. I am sorry your daughter is not being as supportive as she could be. I have had this happen with my own daughter who is usually wonderful but I have Anxiety and Depression and when I am having a tough time she lets me know she cannot be around sad people as well as tells me I just have to get over it. Right, huh? LOL My take on our children that don't try to understand are forgetting how many times we took care of them when they were ill, flu was always fun in the middle of the night...........

Obviously she is not your number one support person so don't count on her for understanding what you are going through.

Coming here and talking with us is a wise move.

After being on NSAIDS it is possible you may have developed and ulcer but GERD seems to fit the picture.
IMHO, yes Drs. should know cetain medications and dietary supplements can irritate the lining of your esophagus, causing heartburn pain, and others can increase the severity of gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD).
I hope you did not fall asleep reading all of this. Remember when you see your Dr. to be your own best advocate.
Gentle Hugs,
Kitt
Posted 10/16/2013 6:19 PM (GMT 0)
Just a quick reply to thank you. I am going to really read this so I understand. I know I have gerd and I know it gave me pain and that I should never take any nsaids again cause they made my Gerd come back, or get worse, but this the nsaid, I did not know.

I also thank you for understanding. :) Yesterday I felt a bit better and today, yes I still have the heart burn I feel I am slowly getting better.
My gp called me today and we made a deal that I try to stick it out. If the nausea gets worse he was thinking of domperidon, but I am hesitant now and I am going to ask you guys before I take any new medication. Now off to read your post a bit more and I am also going to copy it. So sorry you suffer from depression. Big hug.

ETA: reading all the info and let it register in my quite chaotic brains I read that bending among others does not help. So true. I feel a wave of heart burn/nausea when I have to bend. I also used to have pain when I slept but I have been doing alright.

To be honest I always thought I was severe case because I had so much pain but reading a bit more I read about throat that is harder to breath and such things and so far I do not have those symptoms.

(This was supposed to be a short quick reply haha)

Smoking was something I thought I loved and had done severely for 36 years. In January I decided to stop and have not smoked since. turn

Nw yes I do drink coffee and eat chocolate but I am trying to eat less.

Before I ate half a bar a day. now I eat one bar and do 4 days with it so I am getting there. As a Dutch licorice fan I also eat a few dropjes as we call them but also less and less.

O yes I also read on this forum about carafate. You can't get that here. Yes only online perhaps.

Thank you so much for all the information. I knew a few things.

I managed to stay away
smilewinkgrin Thanks Kitt.

Post Edited (Ilsie) : 10/16/2013 12:32:52 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/16/2013 10:34 PM (GMT 0)
Congratulations on quitting smoking!

GERD never caused heartburn for me. It did cause a lot of nausea and stomach aches, especially on an empty stomach.

I also had my gall bladder removed 18 months ago. It helped some, but not enough.

I also have had a lot of trouble with NSAIDS over the years. I can not take them regularly, as they also cause me pain and nausea.

I crave licorice! I find it makes my stomach feel better. I bought some DGL, a product made from licorice to help stomach issues - which I like, but I had the Nissen Fundoplication surgery recently, and the sweeteners in it cause my stomach to bloat. So, it's back to the candy licorice for me. :)

Your English is terrific, too! Good luck with getting yourself healthy.
Posted 10/28/2013 12:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks lajenner. How nice to find a fellow liquorice lover on a GERD board haha.

My stomach is almost back to normal. Only thing I have not tried is milk. I love to make my coffee with boiled milk which I whip and it gets all nice and foamy. I could just have said foamed milk. lol but this way I remembered the word foamed.

So glad to be feeling better and I also called my pharmacist to tell me I should not be allowed to take nsaid's, just in case I forget.

One positive thing though was me finding this board. :)

Reading some posts I realized I am not as bad spot as some of you. Never heard of the Nissen thingy and so far I do not have any trouble breathing, swallowing and such horrible things. Must be so hard.

Post Edited (Ilsie) : 10/28/2013 6:25:25 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/26/2015 1:44 PM (GMT 0)
Hi there. I think I am going to just post in this thread because why write another one. What I did not tell back then was that I am on quite heavy medication Methadone. (Till 1999 I used to be a heroin addict but then finally found the power to quit. ) So the pain medication that gerd patients can be given do not work for me. Even morphine does not help.


I told you that my doctor told me there is nothing he can do for me except I could go search for a pain hypnotist.

The nauseousness that made me register here did pass and I've had months with no problems except for being bloated and a few days of pain but now it seems it has all changed.

Two months ago all of a sudden my blood pressure was too high which was a shock because mine was always very very low
I had to take medication for that as well (I also take meds for slow thyroid and cholesterol)

Now on the 8th of this month the pain came back. When I go to bed nothing is the problem but after I have lied down i wake up with pain. I feel like a burp is stuck in my throat and my throat makes little sounds and sometimes the burp comes but then the pain does not really go away.

Thanks to the anti depression I take for the nerve pain I sleep very deeply so I even sleep through the pain. (except for sometimes waking up and trying to sit upright to let some air out) I do have a bed support thingy.

Anyway I knew something was different when the pain was there every night. Usually when I had the pain it was there for max 3 nights or so.

Now it is April 26 and I've had those painful nights every night but now something scary happened.

I do know when i am reading or what I make weird little noises wit my breathing. My daughter old me and I asked her friendly never to tell me that again (History of hyperventilating) :) but I did notice it myself but last night I woke up and the pain had gone to my throat.

I could feel the line of pain. From my breastbone to my throat and from Breastbone to my navel.
Thanks to the meds I did not become scared and after I wrote down what was happening I fell asleep but this morning I have trouble with lots of air and weird feeling even though I had not even had a meal. Also new because I do not have that happen much during the day.


Now I am scared the next phase of this illness has begun and as someone who has hyperventilated it scares me a lot.
Especially because I do not have much trust in the doctor from the hospital.

I decided to take a half a oxazepam to try and relax..

Further
I do not drink
I do not smoke
I am not too fat. okay I could lose 2 kilos but I am good.

Two weeks ago I decided to quit eating my beloved chocolate did not help
One week ago I decided to stop my beloved licorice but still pain
Only thing I do that I should not is drink coffee but I do no drink so much.

Not the best eater but that happened after years of pain.

Should I ask for a second opinion?
What to do because I feel so alone with this sickness.

O one question I forgot to ask my normal doctor (what is the name for your doc where you go for anything?) if all that acid going around is it not ruining more and more of my insight?
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