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Posted 8/31/2015 2:07 PM (GMT 0)
Hello , well first I m from iraq , so my english may not be that well , I m 20 years old , I have frequent belching , bloating , diarrhea , anxiety often , deep breathing , these symptoms are only get badly worse after eating irritating foods even a small bite , and very very bad after sleep ( waking up ) even a nap for one minute i feel like my abdomen go crazy , my left lung hurt and breath deeply with sounds , very very painful feeling in my joints , i dont know what to do , my doctor advise my "" nexium "" which didnt help at all , i even dont know what food choices do i have , cuz most of them give me these feeling even one bite .. hope it s not serious
Posted 8/31/2015 3:26 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Ahmed,

So sorry to hear you are going through this. Nexium is just a start. It is VERY important that you only eat certain foods. Stay away from most spices, especially pepper or anything hot or spicy.

I wrote a long post below which I think you should read because I go into the different foods that might help you:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=3484813

Good luck to you.

made link clickable

Post Edited By Moderator (dencha) : 9/1/2015 7:20:28 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/31/2015 6:54 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Peabs :) ,

So you say i should keep on Nexium ?

I read your reply .. and i forget to mention i have start going to the gym .. nearly 45 days ago .. so foods with high proteins are required .. such as chicken breast , boiled egg , fish meat ( mostly canned tona since it s the most affordable ) Red meat and milk with honey .. and of course in between .. banana apple and less other fruits .. so you can say this my basic or daily diet .. mostly this foods does not irritating but i wanna know your opinion on this diet ? .. i also have to mention i have an addiction on pistachio well not a very large amounts about 100g daily :) :)

Thanks alot for your reply
Good luck to you
Posted 8/31/2015 7:37 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Ahmed,

Since I am not a medical doctor I'm hesitant to tell you on what you should do with Nexium. Since I don't know the specific cause of your symptoms it would be irresponsible of me to make such a determination. Sometimes PPIs like Nexium take several weeks before you start feelings better, so I would discuss this with your doctor.

What I can share with you is this: if your symptoms are really bad you might need to take a break from the gym. I am on my 2nd month of not going to the gym, though I do go for walks throughout the day.

You can still eat lean meats such as organic chicken (with no skin), turkey, fish, or eggs. I would try to keep the red meat to a minimum. If you're concerned about protein intake then you may want to look into protein powders. But if your body can tolerate lean meats, then by all means, enjoy them.

Remember that dairy usually encourages acid production and that many people have trouble with the proteins in it. And cow milk was designed to be consumed by cows, not humans. I would stay away from all dairy for 90 days and then reintroduce it slowly back into your diet.

If your body tolerates bananas and peeled apples, then those can be really good for GERD (as long as you're not diabetic).  Some people have issues with bananas or apples, so try a little bit and see how your digestive tract responds.   I normally eat half a banana and half a peeled red apple for breakfast and then about 90 minutes to two hours after that I will follow it up with some type of small snack such as organic salad or a coffee mug's worth of home made soup.

 

Posted 9/1/2015 9:28 AM (GMT 0)
Hello Peabs

Ok , so i will keep on nexium for the time . i have been on it only 25 days .

Like i said this diet mostly give me no problems . i am already kept red meat to a minimum ( once a week ) . about the protein powders , i am really afraid of taken it i heard they have bad side effects .

My symptoms are not really bad during the day . but like i said after waking up .. and after eating irritating food .. it become really really bad . my problems with the gym is the breathing and quickly get tired like if i have asthma . but generally i think the gym give me more help rather than it is bad .

Like you said dairy is very bad . eating a little bit will ruin my day or 2 days so i left dairy a long time . but for the milk it just for the gym . prepare for exercise and usually give me no problems or problems for a short time just for a minutes .

Yes , it really tolerates them well , and i m not diabetic .

Thanks You , i am really grateful to you :) .
Posted 9/1/2015 1:49 PM (GMT 0)
Hello again Ahmed,

A couple of things: regarding protein powders, like anything else there are good ones and there are bad ones. Protein powders can actually be very good for you if you buy the right ones. I found this article by Dr. Mercola to be very eye-opening:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/06/22/some-protein-drinks-could-poison-you.aspx

Let me clarify my stance on dairy:   I wrote that cow's milk was made to be consumed by cows, not humans. Since dairy encourages acid production it was my advice to stay away from it for 90 days and then slowly introduce it back into your diet. Now the dairy types you should focus on after 90 days is organic greek yogurt (or plan yogurt) with no added sugar, organic kefir, or cheeses.

There is a divided view on organic raw cow's milk as some experts state that it is good for you, while others don't think so. I'm in the camp that thinks it's not good for you.

I do hope you start feeling better.

 

Posted 9/2/2015 1:32 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Ahmed,

Welcome to Healing Well! I am sorry to hear that you are struggling with your symptoms. You're in the right place, as many others here have suffered in the same way.

You sound as if your symptoms are quite severe, so I do think modifying your diet is important.

Also, be sure you are taking your Nexium properly. I don't know the dosage, or what directions your doctor has given you for taking it, but there is a proper way to take Nexium.
1. Take it 1 hour before your meal, on an empty stomach.
2. Your first meal after taking it and waiting one hour, should be high in protein.

Following these rules, your Nexium will work better. I have read that it works best when taken first thing in the morning, followed in one hour by a meal high in protein. Here's a link to a document that has information about PPIs:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=3477859

You need to avoid alcohol, acidic and spicy foods, as well as foods that are rough when they are swallowed, until you've been feeling better (perfect) for two weeks. Then you can start introducing more challenging foods.

When you eat, take small bites, and chew, chew, chew your food until it is a creamy, liquid consistency. This will help protect your esophagus and stomach.

Here is some information about GERD:
effectivehealthcare.ahrq.gov/index.cfm/search-for-guides-reviews-and-reports/?productid=756&pageaction=displayproduct

Here is a link to information about some suggested safe GERD foods:
www.enetmd.com/content/gerd-diet-plan-and-table

Glad you've joined the forum. I hope you begin to find some relief soon!

Best wishes,
Denise
Posted 9/2/2015 1:44 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Ahmed,

The important thing to know about protein is that the average person, doing a normal workout, some cardio, some weights, everyday for an hour or two doesn't exert themselves enough to require any more protein than what you can get from eating a banana.

Its a big mistake that people make when they start going to the gym, all the extra protein isn't needed, it just ends up as fat. The people who do need the additional protein are body builders and professional athletes who are working out for multiple hours a day and pushing themselves to extremes, in these cases extra protein is needed to compensate for the extraordinary strain on their muscles. Even then, meat isn't the only source. There are many vegan pro athletes who get their protein from non-meat sources like soy, vegetables, fruit or nuts (so that pistachio habit will fill that gap).

The more important thing post workout is replacing electrolytes lost from sweating. Again those sports drinks for the average person aren't needed, the best thing is to have a banana and some water, or maybe some coconut water after your workout.

As for the milk thing, I don't share Peabs viewpoint on milk, some people have no problem digesting it. I do however agree that staying away from dairy, those things higher in lactic acid like milk and soft cheeses in particular, is good if for no other reason than that you might find you are slightly lactose intolerant.
Posted 9/2/2015 7:43 AM (GMT 0)
Did you symtpoms start after your dietary changes? Protein stimulates a lot of acid production so going suddenly to a high protein diet may have been what set it off.you could try going back to your normal diet for now, but still avoiding trigger foods, and see if you start to feel better. If you do then you can start from there and gradually increase protein intake over time so your stomach has a chance to get used to it.
Posted 9/2/2015 12:22 PM (GMT 0)

Peabs said...
Hello again Ahmed,

A couple of things: regarding protein powders, like anything else there are good ones and there are bad ones. Protein powders can actually be very good for you if you buy the right ones. I found this article by Dr. Mercola to be very eye-opening:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/06/22/some-protein-drinks-could-poison-you.aspx

Let me clarify my stance on dairy: I wrote that cow's milk was made to be consumed by cows, not humans. Since dairy encourages acid production it was my advice to stay away from it for 90 days and then slowly introduce it back into your diet. Now the dairy types you should focus on after 90 days is organic greek yogurt (or plan yogurt) with no added sugar, organic kefir, or cheeses.
There is a divided view on organic raw cow's milk as some experts state that it is good for you, while others don't think so. I'm in the camp that thinks it's not good for you.

I do hope you start feeling better.


Hello again Peabs ,


This article was really helpful . i will concern taken protein powders , my coach repeatedly insist and advice me to take it . so i will take my chances .

Yes , i get you there , and like you said the view on milk effect vary from person to one another . i have no problems with milk mostly . and it is really essential for me .

THanks a lot for your Help :) .
Posted 9/2/2015 1:26 PM (GMT 0)

dencha said...
Hi Ahmed,

Welcome to Healing Well! I am sorry to hear that you are struggling with your symptoms. You're in the right place, as many others here have suffered in the same way.

You sound as if your symptoms are quite severe, so I do think modifying your diet is important.

Also, be sure you are taking your Nexium properly. I don't know the dosage, or what directions your doctor has given you for taking it, but there is a proper way to take Nexium.
1. Take it 1 hour before your meal, on an empty stomach.
2. Your first meal after taking it and waiting one hour, should be high in protein.

Following these rules, your Nexium will work better. I have read that it works best when taken first thing in the morning, followed in one hour by a meal high in protein. Here's a link to a document that has information about PPIs:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=45&m=3477859

You need to avoid alcohol, acidic and spicy foods, as well as foods that are rough when they are swallowed, until you've been feeling better (perfect) for two weeks. Then you can start introducing more challenging foods.

When you eat, take small bites, and chew, chew, chew your food until it is a creamy, liquid consistency. This will help protect your esophagus and stomach.

Here is some information about GERD:
effectivehealthcare.ahrq.gov/index.cfm/search-for-guides-reviews-and-reports/?productid=756&pageaction=displayproduct

Here is a link to information about some suggested safe GERD foods:
www.enetmd.com/content/gerd-diet-plan-and-table

Glad you've joined the forum. I hope you begin to find some relief soon!

Best wishes,
Denise

Hello dencha , thank you and i m really learn a lot from the experiences here .

Well , just like you told me . my doctor tell me to took Nexium once a day ( 40 mg ) for 60 days in the morning 1 or 2 hours before breakfast . but the protein meal is new to me .

So these " PPIs " , are they different in the effect and power ? i mean is there one better than nexium ? or all have the same effect ?

I read the article about GERD. and i have already got an idea on the disease since i am a medical student ( second stage ) .

My diet are nearly the same as the "" safe foods "" . and the " food to avoid " i have left it long time ago . although may be i eat some of it once a 2 weeks .

Thank you , I have already learned a lot .
Posted 9/2/2015 7:44 PM (GMT 0)

jenagade said...
Hi Ahmed,

The important thing to know about protein is that the average person, doing a normal workout, some cardio, some weights, everyday for an hour or two doesn't exert themselves enough to require any more protein than what you can get from eating a banana.

Its a big mistake that people make when they start going to the gym, all the extra protein isn't needed, it just ends up as fat. The people who do need the additional protein are body builders and professional athletes who are working out for multiple hours a day and pushing themselves to extremes, in these cases extra protein is needed to compensate for the extraordinary strain on their muscles. Even then, meat isn't the only source. There are many vegan pro athletes who get their protein from non-meat sources like soy, vegetables, fruit or nuts (so that pistachio habit will fill that gap).

The more important thing post workout is replacing electrolytes lost from sweating. Again those sports drinks for the average person aren't needed, the best thing is to have a banana and some water, or maybe some coconut water after your workout.

As for the milk thing, I don't share Peabs viewpoint on milk, some people have no problem digesting it. I do however agree that staying away from dairy, those things higher in lactic acid like milk and soft cheeses in particular, is good if for no other reason than that you might find you are slightly lactose intolerant.

Hi Jenagade ,

Well , i dont know what you mean by normal workout , we do some tough exercises , my coach really encourage me on high proteins daily , also i am looking for quick results , not as great bodybuilders , but something to reach fitness . my weight increased now to 70 kg , i was 63 kg . high protein meal after workout 30 to 60 minutes is the most important thing about it , so this what i have been told from many people , my life , in the gym , internet , and many old trainers . ( Yeah there so much more benefits of pistachio :) )

I agree with you , milk does not give problems , but dairy literally ruin my day .

Thank you for the help .
Posted 9/2/2015 8:02 PM (GMT 0)

Andy1986 said...
Did you symtpoms start after your dietary changes? Protein stimulates a lot of acid production so going suddenly to a high protein diet may have been what set it off.you could try going back to your normal diet for now, but still avoiding trigger foods, and see if you start to feel better. If you do then you can start from there and gradually increase protein intake over time so your stomach has a chance to get used to it.

Hello Andy ,

No my symptoms were nearly 2 years ago . get really severe 6 months ago even they were along the day . anxiety for special . i did not give it any concern until these months . so i went to my first doctor he told me i have GERD and told me to take nexium . i tried it for a weeks i did not felt so different . so went to another doctor he says you have "" GERD with no response to treatment "" . did not know what he mean by no response . so i tried nearly 45 days ago the gym and entirely changed my diet , and i really felt more relief . but the symptoms did not end , any irritating food or after sleeping they get bad .

Thanks for your attention .
Posted 9/4/2015 3:17 AM (GMT 0)
If you are having increased GERD isssues after you wake up, you should raise the head of your bed several inches, or get a sleeping wedge if you haven't already done so. This may help at least after laying down.Good luck to you.
Posted 9/4/2015 2:02 PM (GMT 0)

Nellie5 said...
If you are having increased GERD isssues after you wake up, you should raise the head of your bed several inches, or get a sleeping wedge if you haven't already done so. This may help at least after laying down.Good luck to you.

Hi Nellie ,

Yes I have , I did not tried this yet . hope it s gonna work .

Thank you
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