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Posted 2/23/2017 9:52 PM (GMT 0)
Long story short, started after taking doxycycline which was before Christmas

I got heartburn but that's gone.

Now I have mucus, spitting it up or getting sick and throwing it up to feel better

Shortness of breath.
Belching even if empty stumach
Thick feeling throat
Coughing
Mucus
Feeling in chest
Dizziness
Wet burp sometimes
Hard to get a breath



Cut out trigger food
I am eating bland baby food

Post Edited (Robert Bailey) : 2/24/2017 12:53:37 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/24/2017 9:13 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Robert

Some people can take PPIs and seem okay. But for some, PPIs can make the problem worse. This is due to PPIs changing the amount of acid & enzymes in the stomach required to break down food. When the amount of acid in the stomach is incorrect, then the LES (valve) will not close. Both food and the remaining acid is pushed back up the esophagus making things worse. This can cause worse GERD, regurgitation, and vomiting like symptoms.


The mucus in the throat is a typical symptom of LPR (silent reflux). With silent reflux the acid goes all the way up to the throat area. The body produces mucus to help protect the throat from the acid. The mucus can cause a lot of coughing to trying to clear the throat area. The burping and bloating is usually from food not being properly broke down. You can wake up the next morning and still be burping before you even eat or drink anything.


I should also mention some people experience a withdrawal symptom from PPIs called Acid rebound (hyper-secretion of acid), which can make it difficult to wean off a PPI.

You might want to google, LPR, silent reflux, acid rebound, and low stomach acid

Post Edited (CAGU) : 2/24/2017 2:18:52 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/24/2017 9:49 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you. I have crappy sinuses, I took a zpac for my sinuses and everything cleared up but then one night at work I could feel the mucus in my throat and I started getting short of breath and resorting back. It really all started when I took doxycycline I was fine before then. I mean I can cough stuff up all day and last night the back of my throat had a thick and swollen feel and I hardly ate anything.

I don't eat anything spicy
I've started not eating 3 hours before bed or late night meals
Started a keto diet to lose weight
I take probotics

Stopped priosec otc.


Would apple cider vinegar help?
I do have have chewable pepcid I tried today to see if that would help. Can you recommend anything else?

Post Edited (Robert Bailey) : 2/24/2017 3:10:55 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/24/2017 10:23 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry you are dealing with. I had the same issue with sinus and ear problems with silent reflux. This all started back when I took the PPIs. It was also difficult for me to breath at times with so much food and acid coming up. I've included a link below with my personal recovery story below.

https://www.inspire.com/CAGU/journal/ppi-warning-gastroparesis-delayed-gastric-emptying-proton-pump-inhibitor/

You might also want to check out the book: "Why stomach acid is good for you" by Dr. Johnathan Wright
Posted 2/24/2017 10:32 PM (GMT 0)
........ sorry, just saw your last question about apple cider vinegar.... I would not recommend taking if you are going through acid rebound (withdrawal symptoms from PPIs). If you are past the acid rebound stage then you can try the apple cider vinegar. Some people use lemon juice or lime juice instead. Make sure to drink with straw, because they can damage the tooth enamel. Some people take Betaine HCL tablets instead. Bitters like (Swedish bitters) and a good quality salt (like Himalayan salt) can also help stimulate the stomach to produce acid before a meal. A lot of cocktail sauce with a meal always helped me... but I do not like the taste of cocktail sauce.
Posted 2/24/2017 10:45 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you, the breathing is the worse besides burping. I only took priosec for a month. I will be reading up in all this more for I'd like to breathe without shortness or whatnot again. Never thought about lime.I have a bottle of lime juice I used to drink in my water.

Post Edited (Robert Bailey) : 2/24/2017 3:49:37 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/24/2017 11:02 PM (GMT 0)
It can be difficult to figure out how much of the ACV, lemon, or lime juice to use at first, and it will be different for each individual. You might want to start out with cocktail sauce at your meal first, and see if you notice any relief.
Posted 2/24/2017 11:03 PM (GMT 0)
How much cocktail sauce?
Posted 2/24/2017 11:12 PM (GMT 0)
I don't have an exact amount... but if you are eating some shrimp, use a lot of cocktail sauce when you are dipping your shrimp into it. I noticed an immediate improvement with my reflux after doing this... This is when I knew my stomach acid levels were incorrect

Post Edited (CAGU) : 2/24/2017 4:22:46 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/24/2017 11:35 PM (GMT 0)
I was reading about low acid. I mean I have no heartburn what's so ever. Good to know about the cocktail sauce. Thank you. I will stop for some tonight. I'm at work trying to figure out what I should eat so I don't feel like more crap. It's tough.
Posted 2/24/2017 11:44 PM (GMT 0)
I know.. I've been there. You went from previously having heartburn to now having silent reflux after being put on a PPI. So the situation has only become worse.


Your gastroenterologist and ENT doctors (ear, nose, and throat), do not believe we need acid to digest our foods. I was even lectured by my last GI doctor on how no one needs stomach acid to break down food. He said stomach contractions is all that is needed to break down food. True story! He then said he was going to send a note back to my family doctor that we had this discussion.
Posted 2/24/2017 11:59 PM (GMT 0)
..... Until you get this worked out, you might stick with mostly a liquid diet...(nutritional drinks, almond milk, chicken broth, etc).


You will probably find liquids and carbohydrates are the easier thing to eat.. You might also be able to eat some fish or tender pieces of chicken (no skin)

You will want to avoid fiber, since fiber stays in the stomach the longest and is the hardest thing to break down. (I know the foods that are actually good for you!!). Also avoid hard foods (like nuts or dried fruit, seeds, carmel, etc....)

Hopes this helps
Posted 2/25/2017 1:24 AM (GMT 0)
It helps a lot thank you!. My doctor didn't care. I asked to be sent to an ENT and he said I didn't need to go. It's been a frustrating journey.
Posted 2/25/2017 3:36 AM (GMT 0)
You're welcome... let me know how things work out for you
Posted 2/26/2017 7:43 PM (GMT 0)
Robert,

I can really relate. I haven't felt myself since 3 months ago. I developed esophagitis and I didn't even know I had acid reflux. I can eat some foods but I feel like most are healed by now. I have constant burping and just recently had a barium swallow that showed nothing. My main symptom is food sticking.. The endoscopy I had 3 months ago showed mild inflammation in the biopsy. Not sure why it's taking so long to heal. It really changes yoir life.
Posted 3/1/2017 2:29 AM (GMT 0)
I had a cheese burger on Sunday for lunch and I'll feel fine for about an hour then it's bloating depends what food it is and belching and tight chest. I had a Mexican pizza from taco bell. Dumb me. Threw that up in an hour. I brought some protein shakes and so far my throat feels thick a little and min belching Had some non breaded chicken Strips last night and seemed well. My mom deals with the same thing.
Posted 3/3/2017 12:43 PM (GMT 0)
Robert ,
I take 1 TBSP APPLE CIDER VINEGAR MIX WITH 8 oz of water and wait 20 min before i eat my
first meal . It work for me i don't regurgitation or have any heart burn . I avoid all the trigger food and it work for me . I am going to have the Stretta procedure done around the end of this year, after I see my doctor.
the medication I take for my acid Reflux is Dexilant capts 60mg once a day . ( i am not a doctor )
Posted 3/3/2017 2:35 PM (GMT 0)
Robert:

The best thing that you can do for yourself, is watch your diet carefully. Greasy cheeseburgers and mexican pizza are something you should be avoiding.

Sharon
Posted 3/4/2017 3:55 PM (GMT 0)
To thin the mucous, have a look at n-acetylcysteine. I take a 600 mg caplet twice a day. Mucinex is also good. I agree with the others about processed and junk foods. Mucous is the body mounting its defense against those inflammatory foods. The symptoms will keep going downhill otherwise. Also try eliminating the usual mucous suspects sugar, bread and dairy.
Posted 3/4/2017 6:58 PM (GMT 0)
no one has mentioned....drink lots of water!! i drink water as soon as i wake up and it makes an incredible difference.
Posted 3/6/2017 4:04 AM (GMT 0)
Foods that like me

Beef jerky
Protain shakes
Ham loaf
Chewing a lot

Foods that hate me

Ice cream
Spice
Grease
Soda


Had some low carb and sugar ice cream and now my inside feels like acid. Had to take a pepcid ugh.
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