Three month's nissen fundiplication gas bloat severe pain

I see you're having protein shakes. In my experience I had to be careful what I made my shakes from. I had a Nissen lap procedure six weeks ago. Whey protein gives me migraines so I have to use plant based protein. Cow's milk, even lactose free, caused severe bloating so I began using almond milk and I found plant protein powder I could mix with water. Also, if you're making the shakes in something like a bullet blender, that adds lots of air to the shake. I let my shakes sit for 10-15 minutes before I drink them to let the bubbles settle down.

I tried chewable Gax-X-type pills at first and they didn't help at all. I switched to Charco Caps and those made a big difference although they turn your bowel movements black and that was a shock at first.

Also there are the obvious no-no's like carbonated drinks, chewing gum, beer and drinking with a straw.

Hope you're able to get some relief.

The symptoms you are experiencing (even at 3-months post-surgery), are all very common and I'm not surprised that you are still experiencing them. The constipation early on is usually from the use of pain medication after surgery. Everyone is different, but I was not ready for solid foods at 1 month and an all liquid diet is normal. You really need to watch your diet for gas-producing foods. I tell people when you are experiencing these side effects, go back to a soft/mushy diet to give yourself a break for a week or two. Bananas, carrots, some protein shakes are all major gas producers. I used simethicone for gas and it really helped, but it still comes down to watching your diet, initially. Be careful of dairy products because you are still very early in your recovery. This is in no way an easy surgery, and I can tell you weren't properly prepared for how lengthy and difficult the recovery can be. If you are still experiencing acid, talk to your surgeon about temporarily going back on a PPI, it works for a lot of people. I didn't start to feel better until 6-months post surgery, and my "new" around one year.

paperbackwriter said...
I see you're having protein shakes. In my experience I had to be careful what I made my shakes from. I had a Nissen lap procedure six weeks ago. Whey protein gives me migraines so I have to use plant based protein. Cow's milk, even lactose free, caused severe bloating so I began using almond milk and I found plant protein powder I could mix with water. Also, if you're making the shakes in something like a bullet blender, that adds lots of air to the shake. I let my shakes sit for 10-15 minutes before I drink them to let the bubbles settle down.

I tried chewable Gax-X-type pills at first and they didn't help at all. I switched to Charco Caps and those made a big difference although they turn your bowel movements black and that was a shock at first.

Also there are the obvious no-no's like carbonated drinks, chewing gum, beer and drinking with a straw.

Hope you're able to get some relief.

Thanks paperbackwriter for wishing me well, and yes I'm having protein shakes but I have Ibs and a possible intolerance to milk and wheat so I use vegan protein powder with no whey or milk in it. I also drink fortified almond milk and I don't have a bullet blender so there doesn't appear to be any bubbles in the protein shake. I usually leave the protein drink in the blender for at least 10 minutes before I go to drink it. edit: I forgot to mention I don't drink carbonated beverages chew gum or drink with a straw either so that can be eliminated as a trigger for the gas bloat syndrome as well. I had a small amount of sausage and turkey hamburger to test what triggers the most severe symptoms from the bloating and meat seems to trigger it the most so I guess I'll be staying away from meat from now on. I also started taking charcoal pills today and they seem to be helping somewhat so that's something positive.

Shayanv said...
I'm 9 weeks post fundo and a giant hernia repair. It will get better. For me , I took 12 days off and then worked for a week. Then I was off again for three weeks. I had spasms, burning throat , gas bloat , chest pain. I still do but I try to keep busy , keep my mind at work/ school. Don't think too much. I was miserabke when I was home and now feel much better that I have a proper cycle. Hang on. It does get better. I'm sure Sharon z will read this and have positive things to say. trust me I had every horrible symptom one could have as I advanced my diet too soon. I still have only had rice 2 tines. Still no hamburger . No bread. I've had tortillas...

That sounds awful I'm impressed that you were able to work after only close to two weeks after the surgery I was so fatigued and sick after the surgery I could barely move or do anything for the first month and half after the surgery. And I agree sitting around does make me really bored and depressed but I'm working on my GED and a+ certification and I go for an hours walk everyday which helps somewhat. I hope the chest pain isn't permanent it feels like I'm going to have a heart attack all the time.

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I'm now 2 and a half months post fundo and feeling much much better. All of a sudden my appetite is back. I've been eating a proper lunch and dinner along with an avocado for breakfast. I feel more thirsty and can gulp coconut water and juices. My throat is still sore and feels like a burning sensation but the painful swallowing has gone down. It was really tough going back to work so soon but my GI said I'd be able to manage. Bad idea... I worked for a week and then went on another 3 week leave. It's only now that I feel less fatigued and can eat more. Atleast when I went back to work I had something to keep my mind busy and people at my work have been super. They carried by briefcase etc and are awesome about letting me go for my weekly or monthly checkups. If I had a horrible boss I would have never continued.

I am two weeks and 1 day post surgery. Supposedly I can have toast..so i had tuna on toast..lots of mayo. I have got to slow down eating... I felt like a softball stuck in my esophagus. I moved a little and it went down. Some days are better than others. Chicken goes down, tuna on crackers go down, French toast goes down too....but the white toast was not so good.

This is the feeling I had when i had ¾ of my stomach above the diaphragm, but it lasted a lot longer. Never happened with tuna though. This is not easy. I hope this goes away someday forever. Is this lump that I am talking about what you call "bloat"??

Molly:

Everyone's recovery is different and at 2 weeks, I was no way ready to advance my diet. My suggestion is that even with thorough chewing to a liquid consistency, if you still experience difficulty with swallowing - go back to a soft diet for a week and then try again. Bloat generally means an excess build-up of gas.

Sharon

The gas (farting) has never left me!! 2010 is when I had the surgery and I still can out fart my husband or any man I know!! Very embarrassing at times because I have to leave the room and pray it's not loud or stinks. This happens every time I put something in my mouth. It doesn't matter whether it's a cracker or a meal, I fart.
Just don't be surprised if it doesn't ever stop. I don't know why this happens but it does. I know farting is normal but what happens to me, isn't.
Every thing is working my Gastro Dr stated and she said to try Beano and that doesn't work for me. So I just deal with it and I don't eat out much!!!
Any outdoor activity is fine but not stuck in a room or someone's house doesn't.
Sorry if this was too personal but it's the way of life for me now. My husband asked me years ago "what did that Dr. do to you!" as he laughed.

If I'm reading correctly you had the surgery done in July. I was put on a medicine that made my stomach contract for a good 4-6 months which helped a lot. Did your Dr put you on anything? I can't remember the name of it but it helped.
I wouldn't have the wrap undone, my wrap is tight and the first year was hell healing from this surgery. I almost would find another gastro Dr if you can as your Dr should be listening to you and not just jumping to another surgery. Yes you may have to have the wrap loosened a bit but then you may end up getting GERD again.
I would try Gas X before I eat and then eat slow and very small portions and then take another Gas X after I ate.
If your Dr isn't going to listen to you and take you seriously, then it's time to find another Dr who cares about what you are feeling and going through.
I do remember crying the first year thinking what in the world did I do. I believe this was around the 3-4 month mark because I felt like crap. I went to see my Dr and that is where he looked at my prescriptions and discovered that the "med" student who filled them out wrote the wrong instructions on the stomach contracting meds as I was to take that every day and once I started taking the meds correctly then I started to feel better and a lot of the issues I was dealing with were controllable.
I am 8 years out and I'm not happy with the side effects that I ended up with as I should have read into it more but my Dad had passed from esophageal cancer because of the GERD/Barrett's and I didn't want to go like he did. I ended up with my body eats my iron and doesn't make any so I'm dealing with IV iron infusions and a Ferritin of 3 and a whole bunch of other things that go along with that. My vegus nerve and heart was just checked with a nuclear stress test and my Cardio Dr said if the vegus nerve is damaged there is nothing that can be done for that. I won't have the wrap undone because it won't change any of these problems.
I wish you the best because I know the hell I went through the first year but please see another Dr if you can because this Dr should be taking you seriously. Keep me posted on what happens.

When I seen my doctor back in September he gave me this medication called Metonia 5mg but it didn't help me and he told me not to take it more then a few times a week because it can cause heart palpitations and increase your risk of having a heart attack so I just stopped taking them after a few days. I've also taken gas x,beano and bunch of other smitheione medications with no relief. I've also tried charcoal pills which help a little bit but then they make me get constipated so I can only take them every so often. The only thing that helps me manage my pain is taking marijuana oil called cbd without almost no THC in it so you can't get high. I'll follow your advice though and wait until six months or longer before I get a take down done. After I get an xray and scope done if they find nothing and he suggests getting the surgery reversed then I'm going to tell him I'm going to wait a while longer to see if my symptoms improve and I'll suggest and see if he'll answer any of the questions you guys have suggested. If he refuses to give a reason or any answers as to why something else can't be done then I'll have to find a new stomach specialist to see if there even is one in my area which is in Canada in Alberta so I might be out of luck in that regard because I live in a small city about four hours away from the capital of Alberta which is Edmonton. I'm on a waiting list just to get the scope done which could take up to a month before I hear back from the hospital again. If anyone else has any suggestions then I'm all ears and thanks for giving me suggestions and feedback.

I finally had another scope done three weeks ago by my stomach specialist and after I woke up from the anesthetic a nurse gave me the results from the scope and my stomach is red and inflamed and irritated but no acid is going up into my esophagus or throat which is good. He also did a biopsy to make sure I didn't have stomach cancer or ulcers so he put me back on antacids again so I was taking 20 mg of losec daily for my stomach for the past two weeks which hasn't seemed to done anything for the pain so far. I then went to see my family doctor two days ago about my stomach results and he said my stomach was red an inflamed and that I had ulcers in my stomach and that I may need to start immunotherapy because I could have an infection from the surgery because I was not put on antibiotics after the surgery was performed 6 months ago back in July. I also told my family doctor that my stomach specialist hasn't been very helpful since I started having really bad complications from the surgery back in September with the gas bloat syndrome and sever chest and stomach pain. So my Dr. said if the appointment I had with the stomach specialist didn't go well the next day to come back to see him as soon as possible. So the next day I went to my stomach specialist and I told him that my doctor looked at the results of the scope and said my stomach is inflamed and that he said I had ulcers in my stomach. The stomach specialist then said I don't have any ulcers and that the biopsy results turned up negative for Helicobacter pylori and that my family Dr was just grasping at straws and is desperate to try to figure out what is wrong with my stomach. My stomach specialist also doesn't think I have gas bloat syndrome even though I can barely eat any solid food and my stomach cramps and makes literal gurgling sounds after I eat anything and my chest hurts really bad all the time and hurts even more after I eat! He then said he thinks it's all psychological and that I'm over sensitive to pain and said to be frank he doesn't get why the gas bloat syndrome wasn't that bad until two months after the surgery. He's also trying to make out that I have fibromyalgia even though I had no pain problems at all until after the surgery. He's trying to make out that I'm stressed out even though I have nothing to be stressed out since I haven't been working since march of 2018 and I don't have any financial issues and I live with my parents so I have don't have anything to worry about.
He has also had complications in the past with people he had done the surgery on including a woman that had a stomach infection that didn't show up on a biopsy, so he put her on antibiotics anyway and she got got better even though the h pylori test turned up negative. So I'm supposed to go back to see him in a month to see if I get better or not. He also put me on three antibiotics which are the following: San doz-clarithromycin 500mg 1 pill twice daily, Metronidazole 250 mg two pills twice daily, and Amoxicillin 500mg two pills twice daily. He also put me on two other antacid pills to see if that reduces the inflammation as well which are: Teva-sucralfate 1G 1 pill every eight hours, and Rantidine 150 mg 1 pill twice daily. So I'm going to try this for the next month and if it dosen't get better then I'll be switching stomach specialists since he dosen't want to take my problem seriously and just wants to pass it off as being psychological/mental illness even though I don't have any mental illnesses. I'm going back to my family Dr. tomorrow to see what he'll say what I should do about my stomach. Half the time when the Dr's can't figure out what's wrong with you they go straight to trying to make out that you're mentally ill or that it's all in your head so they don't have to admit that the surgery didn't go well or you end up with complications. I don't even know why he's starting this bullcrap when I have been nice and haven't freaked out at him once. Even though I'm been really sick for really sick for almost five months. What do you guys think I should do any help would be appreciated. I also asked him about redoing the surgery or loosening the wrap up a little bit but he said it would probably do nothing for the gas bloat syndrome and would probably just make me have acid again.

The Dr I'm having trouble with is my surgeon my actual Family Dr has been more helpful and given me more advice and hope then he has. Also my surgeon has only done the surgery a few times,two more experienced surgeons did most of the surgery and he assisted them with the surgery. Also some good news I've been taking the antacids for a few days now and the burning in my stomach has stopped which leads me to believe that even though I had the surgery my stomach is still getting inflamed from the acid but it's not going up into my esophagus somehow. I also had really bad back pain when I was having the acid and now it's gone as well. So I only have severe bloating stomach pain and pressure in my chest now. I'm going to continue taking my antacids and taking my antibiotics for the next month and see how I'm doing. If he still keeps acting like an idiot and not taking me seriously then I'll find another stomach doctor. I'm also on Cbd oil to numb the pain now which helps quite a bit with the severe pain I'm in and also brings my mood up as well. I wouldn't have got this surgery done if I knew it was going to make me feel even worse then I already was.