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Posted 12/18/2006 12:33 AM (GMT 0)
Hi there, I'm friendlygal and I'm pretty new to this forum.  I am thankful to have found it as it is the best I've seen! :)

I have been diagnosed with "vigorous GERD," according to my barium swallow.  But my esophogram is "normal," according to the endoscopy. 

I have a terrible nauseous feeling, chest pains, burping episodes, trouble breathing at times, and worst of all, a constant wad of acid in my throat.

I've tried Protonix, Nexium, Aciphex, and am currently taking prevacid (twice a day).  Nothing seems to work.  The only one left is prilosec.  Should I try it?  Anyone out there have better luck with prilosec?  All answers are appreciated...

Thanks!

Posted 12/18/2006 9:58 PM (GMT 0)
Not in my opinion, you can, but why give them more money? Prilosec is just old school Nexium. Think about it, you took 4 PPI's already, you think the first one might help? It's definetly possible. Why don't you try a H2 antogonist instead. ie. Tagament, Zantac, Pepcid. But only use it to help symtpoms. Try twice daily.
after breakfast, b4 bed time. i dunno just suggetsion. Get to the root of the problem. Check out riverotter's post on Dr. Sarno's method.
Posted 12/18/2006 10:08 PM (GMT 0)

thanks.  I have "vigorous reflex," according to the barium swallow report.  So I didn't think that taking an OTC would help it.  But I suppose it's worth the try...I'm wondering if there are any people here who have had prilosec and had good results...

I have tried positive thinking and changing my diet...nothing seems to work...maybe it just takes a while...

Posted 12/22/2006 5:13 AM (GMT 0)
Hi friendlygal,

I, too, had the barium xray, and was deemed to have "severe reflux." I had been taking Prilosec for about six weeks before the test (20 MG, 2X per day), so I was having no symptoms, and was surprised to see the stuff going right back up my throat! That's when I decided I had to get to the root of the problem, not just treat the symptoms. If you've seen riverotter's posts, that's what I ended up doing, and it has worked. I haven't taken any meds since I had the xray.

You also mention frequently that you have a lump in your throat. That has been the last lingering symptom for me, but most days even that is gone. A while ago sillylilly posted an article on the difference between GERD and LPR. Take a look at it - it really shows what that lump is. I know it feels like some kind of junk stuck in there, but it's really what has happened to your larynx because of the acid.

So, my short answer to your question is that Prilosec helped me with the lumpy throat symptoms, but really did nothing to rid me of reflux. I think I needed it to heal the damage done to my larynx, but also needed to get off of it and find a way to stop the reflux.

Hope this helps.
WDC
Posted 12/25/2006 3:17 AM (GMT 0)

WDC, thanks for your reply.  But wouldn't the ENT had noticed if my larynx was effected?  If that indeed is what the lump is, then I figured that he would have told me that? 

Maybe I need a more thorough check up...

What were riverotter's posts about, if I may ask?

Happy holidays, friendlygal

Posted 12/27/2006 12:44 AM (GMT 0)
Hi friendlygal,

Hope you had a good holiday, all things considered!

Yeah, I would have thought the ENT would mention if you had larynx damage. It might be that my theory is all wrong (wouldn't be the first time!), or maybe he was looking at your esophagus more closely.

about riverotter's thread - it's called "my cure for GERD" and it is where a lot of the posting about mindbody theories and techniques for healing are discussed. Be sure to look for the one started by riverotter. There's also one by the same name started by Danie, with a different position on the whole thing.

It sounds like you're onto a new doc. I hope that works out. Let us know.

WDC
Posted 12/27/2006 3:44 AM (GMT 0)
Friendlygal,

Check back on my postings, as WDC suggested, to see what I did to cure myself of GERD.  I also had the most horrible nausea and terrible dizziness.  Those were my only two symptoms and I was not diagnosed with GERD until I had just about every test done, including a brain MRI!

I was on Prilosec for 1 month and then had a rebound, the same horrible symtoms came right back.  I was told to go on Zantac (as you will see by my past postings - found this information on Dr. Weil's site, well known medical doctor - DGL licorice works the same way, is a natural supplement and does not cause high blood pressure) but after a couple of days with more bad side effects, I decided to just go totally natural.  Using the DGL licorice and other methods that I listed in previous postings such as alkaline diet (totally vegetarian) I was able to totally cure myself. 

Now, some people might say that I used my mind to heal myself.  Well, I certainly did use my mind to find a way to eat myself to a cure.  I healed my esophagus by coating it with DGL licorice everytime I ate something!!!

It was a miracle for me and I still stand by it but trying to will yourself healed and DOING something physical are two different things.

I already posted that I think you have to use your brain and intelligence to try to heal yourself.  Thinking positive thoughts is ok but when you are suffering (as I was and many of you are) and you are depressed because you don't see yourself getting better, it's easier said than done!   I have to say that I was pretty persistant and never gave up though.  I was discouraged at times and even thought it would be so much easier to just start taking drugs again......but I never gave up.

I'm pretty persistant when I make up my mind about things.  What helped me keep going was reading that so many people are on these drugs for such a long time and never get anything resolved.  I was also scared of all the potential next tests and procedures.  There was no way I wasn't going to cure myself.  I had never had anything like this happen and for me GERD was caused by a tripping accident that lead me to sleep exclusively on my right side and taking Advil at night (never take it, including aspirin, when sleeping).  Take during the day and if taken at night, stay up 30 minutes.  I read this on line after trying to figure out how the heck I got GERD. 

I hope you are helped by what I did to help myself.  Never give up trying to find a solution for yourself to a healthier life.

Danie

Posted 12/27/2006 5:39 PM (GMT 0)
I feel a little like a broken record, but mindbody healing is not "thinking positive thoughts." It's hard work, whereby you deal with psychological issues (through meditation, journaling, counseling, and other active means) before they become physical ones, or, try to alleviate them once they have developed.

Good luck, friendlygal. Keep us posted.

WDC
Posted 12/27/2006 10:51 PM (GMT 0)
WDC,
Not everyone has psychological issues that caused them to get GERD, some of us got it by something physical. As I've said before, everyone has to find the right path to good health in their own way. Everything should be tried to regain one's health.
Mindbody healing can be used but not alone. That discipline should be combined with the discipline of a healthy way of eating. You can only gain from eating healthy.
Good luck to everyone.
Posted 12/28/2006 12:16 AM (GMT 0)
Some of us do believe our GERD is caused by psychological issues, and that mindbody techniques alone, once the initial damage has been healed, are enough to keep it from recurring. I'm certainly not advocating unhealthy eating. When I say I eat what I want, I'm saying I don't think about the acidity level of my food, and I'm fine. I've always eaten a healthy, balanced, mostly organic diet. My diet did not cause my GERD, and changing it is not what will heal it.

Once again, I'm not saying this has to apply to everyone, but please don't discount the experience of several of us here.
Posted 12/28/2006 1:30 AM (GMT 0)

WDC said...
I feel a little like a broken record, but mindbody healing is not "thinking positive thoughts." It's hard work, whereby you deal with psychological issues (through meditation, journaling, counseling, and other active means) before they become physical ones, or, try to alleviate them once they have developed.

Good luck, friendlygal. Keep us posted.

WDC

Believe you me, I've done much to relax (even had a massage today)...I just don't think that the mind is enough.  Of course it is good to have positive thoughts.  But I am currently enjoying my life so I am doing the best I can.  You don't need to sound like a broken record..thanks for caring, friendly
Posted 12/28/2006 1:33 AM (GMT 0)

WDC said...
Hi friendlygal,

Hope you had a good holiday, all things considered!

Yeah, I would have thought the ENT would mention if you had larynx damage. It might be that my theory is all wrong (wouldn't be the first time!), or maybe he was looking at your esophagus more closely.

about riverotter's thread - it's called "my cure for GERD" and it is where a lot of the posting about mindbody theories and techniques for healing are discussed. Be sure to look for the one started by riverotter. There's also one by the same name started by Danie, with a different position on the whole thing.

It sounds like you're onto a new doc. I hope that works out. Let us know.

WDC

WDC, thanks!!  Happy holiday to you, too...yeah, I think that, in my case, it is a ton of gas so it might not be damage to the larynx (though I could be wrong).

I'll check out riverotter's post.  I am really trying everything, alkaline diet, relaxing...so for me it just might take a while due to anatomical reasons... 

Posted 12/27/2016 1:30 AM (GMT 0)
Hi WDC. I'm reading Sarno's books now. I got heartburn/reflux from using a PPI for gastritis (after a long taper off the PPI, including rebound, I got reflux). I wish I never took the PPI. Did Sarno's methods work for your GERD? I saw a TMS Dr and he said I definitely have TMS. I really don't want to get an endoscopy to see what's going on inside.
Posted 12/27/2016 11:28 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Danie, what dgl did you use?
Thanks
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