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Posted 6/23/2009 12:34 AM (GMT 0)
Hi all -
PaLAdy, Well my secret is out now isn't it! I am so happy you decided to hang out here also. These people are great here too. I do or did have some chronic pain, but I feel like a weenie compared to most of the people on the CP forum. They really have a lot to deal with. Just remember we are here for you any time you need us.

Janice, some have said I am up beat and have a great attitude about things, but you my friend truly amaze and inspire me. As always , I am praying and keeping you in my thoughts. I feel Wednesday is going to be good news also. I must admit, the glowing bit got me giggling pretty good. I giggled a bit too much and my stomach was hurting. I was thinking of the movie Modern Problems with Chevy Chase.

Bea, Kitt, Denise and everyone else, I hope everyone has made it through Monday okay and I holler at you soon.

Take care,
Bill

Oh yeah, I go to drive today!! Michelle had an eye appointment and they dilated her eyes, So I got to drive. Yippee!
I also have been on the new Thyroid forum. My wife has been diagnosed with Hashimotos since she was 13 and I haven't been able to get her to post, but she won't yet. So I will continue to poast for her until she gets the nerve.

Post Edited (opnwhl4) : 6/22/2009 6:52:26 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/23/2009 3:30 AM (GMT 0)
Denise, I hope the weather is good for both of us. We both need a nice vacation. I'll be thinking of you as I'm sitting out in the sun (under my umbrella during breaks in between acts). My fair skin and meds make me susceptable to sunburn so I try to stay out of it if possible. We still have fun though.

Janice thanks for your prayers and support I appreciate it.

Bill that is awesome! I couldn't drive for 3 weeks and it drove me crazy because my hubby couldn't drive the van so I was stuck relying on others. Not a fun postion to be in. Maybe she'll let you drive some more now that you've proven yourself. Lol. Well tomorrow is the big day for my shot in the tail bone. I'm getting kind of nervous about it, but if it really does help it will be worth it so I can ride my bike pain free, and sit and lay down. Just life in general. Hope your getting along better with your stomach problems.

PAlady welcome to you.

Kitt, thanks for all your support. I don't know how much I'll be around in the next 5 or 6 days but will try to pop in if time permits. Have a great week every one. Barb

Posted 6/23/2009 10:01 AM (GMT 0)
Barb -
Good luck with the shot in the ummmm rear?; ) I know tail bone. I am so glad mine hasn't hurt in a long time. That is hard to avoid not aggravating a tail bone problem. With all that has happened I hope you can relax and enjoy the festival this week. I hope the weather cooperates for you, you deserve a break.

Denise -
Enjoy your vacation too. I am hoping the weather cooperates with your plans too.

Today is follow up day. I didn't pack a thing...not planning any long visits this time! Let everyone know what he says tonight or tomorrow. Michelle has been wanting to go see a movie and I think I can make it through one now.

Take care,
Bill
Posted 6/23/2009 11:00 AM (GMT 0)

Good morning everyone!  It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!  Seriously!, I think the high today is 84, the sun is coming up and life is good cool

Barb and Bill, funny isn't it, how many of us share the same issues..I had an SI rhizotomy just two weeks ago, unfortunately I'm still having problems with the pain going down my left leg, the right is fine.  I think I'm ging to have to try doing a jig of some sort...try to shake the pain down the leg and out of my foot!  Can you imagine?  this middle aged, glow in the dark, hiccuping woman dancing around shaking her leg?  Now that's an image that should get you laughing!!!  All we need is to have all of us gather at the lake in Kitt's picture and have Bea bring the food and we'll have a party, (Denise can bring her vacation to us!!) turn

Have a great day everyone!  I have a busy day ahead of me here and better get crackin!

Janice

Posted 6/23/2009 2:45 PM (GMT 0)

Good Morning All,

There is a whole lot of jiving going on here in the last 24 hours.

Janice is a glowin and a dancin,  Bill is a driving, Barb is a sunning and Bea is a eating.  Ooops Bea, you always get my silly little pokes.  hee hee. Denise is a working and looking forward to packing. yeah yeah   yeah  

As  for me I am just surviving............we have a wedding out of town this weekend and I will be off from Friday until Sunday unless I take my puter with me. I have not decided on that one yet.

PaLady, I agree with Bill, the members of chronic pain are very special and they have a lot going on.  You have my support.

Bill I hope your follow up goes well. It sounds to me like you are in the zone now and a movie is a real treat for both you and Michelle.  My hubby and I went to see Pelham 123.  He loves the action flicks. 

Anyone on vacation, have a grand time and know we are right here for you when you return.

Bushels of hugs and support to all,

Kitt

Posted 6/23/2009 7:36 PM (GMT 0)
Janice -
I'll bring the guitar(s) and we'll all have a grand time at Kitt's lake.
Well I made it back from my follow up. All is well and I get to return to work the 7th of July. Unless something really weird happens. Who knows with me. My surgeon was finally smiling after I told him all was going good and the swallowing was way better than the first go round.
Michelle and I stopped by to chat with the nurses and drop off the card and cookies. Only 3 nurses were there since we had to be there before 11am. We just walked into the lobby and hung out to see if anyone noticed. All of them did a double take and didn't recognize me at first, but recognized Michelle right away. They said they don't get to hear back from too many patients after they are discharged, but love it when someone does drop by. There weren't nearly as many people there in the lobby area as when I was there. Everyone must be enjoying the weather and staying away from the hospital. Can't say I blame them.
They gave me the complete discharge order and operative report. That thing is 7 pages long! I didn;t realize they had to do so much. No wonder it took 4.5 hours. Well that is my journey for the day. I drove all the way there and half way back. I am pooped and going to take a nap.

Take care,
Bill
Posted 6/24/2009 4:03 AM (GMT 0)
Bill, that was really a pain in the butt today. I don't even think the numbing shot even kicked in before he did the shot. I found out why they do it in the OR. They used a machine that showed him exactly where he was. It hurts as much as when I first broke it. I sure hope this was worth it. I ended up taking 2 of my hydrocodone that i have for my back or I wouldn't have gotten any sleep tonight. It's just kiked in so I'm very sleepy. I hope it feels better by tomorrow like my hand did when I got the cortizone shot. They told me I can't ride my bike for at least 2-3 weeks now. Not that I'd want to ride in this heat and humidity. I about died today in my airless car with 99 degrees with high humidity. Tomorrow is going to be 88 with good chance of rain at 3pm. The music starts at 3:30pm. I'll be happy if I get to see Taylor Swift at 9pm. Well I am feeling pretty out of it from those 2 pain pills. At least my butt doesn't hurt any more. It was so bad earlier I had a hard time walking around the store. I'm glad eveything went well with your visit today.

Janice, your so funny. It helps to have a sense of humor to get through health problems. I was joking around with the nurses and doctor today myself. Some times health care workers I have encountered ask me how I still stay up beat with all my problems. I always tell them God is a big help. And I look at it as things could be worse. 

Kitt I hope you have fun at the wedding. Every one else have a great week and vacations too. Talk to you all later. Barb 

Posted 6/24/2009 2:13 PM (GMT 0)

Bill,

Whoooo hooooooo, great report and back to work with you matey.  At least you get the week of the 4thof July off.  :) How nice of you to bring cookies to the nurses. I know how much the nurses love to hear back from the patients as we get rather attached to you long timers. shocked Nurses always love munchies as they are often eating on the run as patient care comes first and lunch if you are lucky.  So I thank you for recognizing your nurses. You and Michelle are so very considerate.

Barb, I am sorry your procedure was a pain in the patoot.  I do hope the injection helps you tremendously. It sure was hot yesterday, I stayed indoors as the humidity was really up there.  No major storms though.

Well I am off to pamper myself this morning, doing the nail thingy, pedicure and manicure.  Have to do something to distract from my wrinkles. turn

 I do hope you get to some of the music festival and enjoy yourself.

Happy Wednesday to all.................

Hugs,
Kitt

Posted 6/24/2009 11:57 PM (GMT 0)
This is a neat thread. Stream of consciousness at the group level. Chutz (one of the CP mods) does a daily thread with a light topic for people to respond to, but I kind of like this style. I do wonder, however, how it got the title. Bill must have really traveled, or played a great game of hide and seek!

Anyway, I am waiting for my nexium Rx to be called it. Somehow wasn't called in yesterday and today of course, they only are in half day. But I did get a discount card from Astro Zenica (www.purplepil.com) but I'm guessing most of you already know about that.

Hope everyone here had a reasonably good day - and a few a great one!

Thanks for the welcome!

PaLady
Posted 6/25/2009 4:23 AM (GMT 0)
PaLady -
This thread came about after I was re admitted to the hospital with a perforation and bleeding in my big ole belly that nearly got me to the OR twice in a week. I think for some strange reason people here started to miss me. That has always has made me sniffle a bit. A grown man crying over meeting new bests friends here that care about him or her any time day or night. What a country!Seems I wasn't showing up as regular as I used at first and they need an answer as to why I was away so long. I never go away long. I always check it when needed. /there was way too much goofy things going on. Way too many long nights in the hospital (JAIL HOUSE) room. Some of my replies never made it past my mind, that too was in question some nights. I finally made it home and after being up there today I wouldn't have minded to stayed a few more days now, and I think some of the nurses wouldn't mind either. It is a funny relationship we have with nurse and patient techs. Just A+++ people all of them. I have never had as good of treatment anywhere as they did there. After a couple weeks you start to feel like family. I wish I had gotten their last names so I could write a personal email or card straight to that person. I know Steph said she will put us in her Christmas card list. I certainly hope she does. I really enjoyed seeing the look on their faces when we showed up. Some not sure if I was who they thought I was or the ones who couldn't believe I would show back up there with a thank you card and cookies. I just don't know how to give them a gift that is even close to the gift they gave to me and Michelle. I can't speak the words. I can only let my eyes say it for me and I hope it is enough. I have never been it this situation before and am not sure what should be done. I did send an email to someone in the office that said they would all get it. I hope it worked out like I wanted it too.
Strange, I didn't want to just drop off the cookies and run away. I thought I would do just that for some reason. Instead we hung out for about 30 to 40 minutes and had a couple emotional moments with a couple of the nurses that took care of me and Michelle the most. Even after over 2 weeks It was like I never left. They asked if I wanted a gown and a new room.We should have stayed around a couple more hours to see Abby and Stephanie. They were our first true Angels there. They made sure Michelle could have a spot to sleep even all they had hat night was 2 chairs put together. So, My eyes are a bit blurry and damp typing this, good memories from a bad situation. I am sure we will find a reason the take a road trip to Chicago sometime soon. Not sure what for? But I will think of something. I know, a late visit for Portillos supper on 7th floor.
This wasn't supposed to be near this long, but I just kept letting it rip. I am not sure why but I am enjoying my self.
Take Care All.
Bill

Post Edited (opnwhl4) : 6/25/2009 7:30:33 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/25/2009 5:41 AM (GMT 0)
Enjoy away, Bill! It's good to hear you sounding so upbeat and even a tad emotional. You had a heck of a stay - at least the one I know about from your being on the CP board.

I'm so glad you had such great care. So often on the CP board we hear far more bad stories than positive. And when you're in the hospital you're so vulnerable and helpless - at least I felt that way for my double fusion. I was there nearly a week, but nothing like what you went through.

Thanks for sharing!

PaLady
Posted 6/25/2009 6:42 AM (GMT 0)
Barb -
I hope the shot kicks in quickly. Glad they did just think they knew what they were doing and actually used the machine to see it. You will be riding that bike in no time at all,

Take care,
Bill
Posted 6/25/2009 12:58 PM (GMT 0)

Good Morning PAlady,

I am so glad you are enjoying our thread and everyone is welcome to jump in.  the original thread became so long that I made Part 2 and renamed it a bit.  smilewinkgrin Here is a link to that thread.

https://www.healingwell.com/community/?f=45&m=1488482&g=1488482#m1488482

I have tried the daily roll call or check in threads in several forums but they have not gone over well.  This thread just kind of took off on it's own and yes we were Bill's cheerleading squad.  tongue    Now we are ready to show up in everyone's thread if they are looking for a squad to lead them through the tough times.

We love to post positives in this thread too.............it helps all to realize that there is a lot of good outcomes and not all is horrible and sad.

You are a great asset to our forum so please know that having you join us was a blessing.

Hugs to you,

Kitt

Posted 6/25/2009 1:03 PM (GMT 0)

Bill,

Awesome post and you said it well, this is a great place, and knowing people truly care for each other makes this a special place.

I am so glad you went back to the hospital to visit and that it made you feel good.  I understand what it is like to have a relationship with nurses so reading the positive experience you had is truly wonderful.  I know there are many good stories out there and I could share many but I would really have to write a book.

Well tomorrow off to the wedding.  The temperature on Saturday here is expected to be in the 90's and the wedding is outdoors.  I do believe it is a short ceremony. cool

Everything else is indoors. :-)

Take care and hugs to everyone...............I know several of you are on vacations, well deserved vacations.

Lots of joy and peace to each of you,

Kitt

Posted 6/25/2009 6:32 PM (GMT 0)
Hi every one, I have all ways been a positive person my whole life, but since I lost one of my very best friends less than a week ago, I get up every morning and say "it's a great day because I'm alive". My friend was only 46. When one of my younger sisters turned 40 and asked me if I was depressed when I turned 40 I said heck no I was glad to make it to 40. I had a big bash for it too. I plan on the same in 4 more years when I turn 50.

My boss made me so mad yesterday that I went down in the basement to organize stuff and I sat and cryed, but hey with my vacation and hers I don't have to see her for a week and a half. Woo hoo! Glass half full theory. Lol.

Taylor Swift was awesome and no rain. Had a blast with my hubby, daughter and her boyfriend. He tried to get us out of there early and I tried to tell him it was no use. When we got to the lot and had to wait 3 hours he saw what we meant. We had to tell him to chill out and have a beer. My daughter blasted her Taylor Swift CD and evey one was singing along. You have to just make the most of a situation. Tonight my hubby and me are going to go hang out in the beer tent near the bathrooms and listen to the music there until the traffic lets up some. My tail bone is still pretty sore but my special cushion for the back with the tail bone area open works awesome. My daughter and her boy friend lifted my hubbys scooter into the back of their Saturn so I am going to unwire our Saturn trunk and try the same thing with the ramps we borrowed from the lions club. They will have to stick out our sunroof on the way down and back which looks a bit funny but hey what ever works. I miss my full size van with lift sad . We will start looking for something else after this festival is over.

I just got back from the doc. as I had a bug go in my ear this morning and couldn't get it out and it hurt. Also had him check my yeast infection which I still have, but it is mild. He is such a smart guy and is a Nurse practitioner. I am so impressed with his knowledge of medications. We talked about my meds and when I run out of my Nexium that my insurance company refuses to let me have any more I am to take to ompeprazole. This guy knows more than my stomach doc every did. I am also back on carafate and will up a med and see if it helps me sleep better and less saliva so I'm not choking on it. He wanted me back in 3-4 weeks and I told him about my boss and he said ok just call me since your seeing so many docs the way it is. He wants to know how it goes with the hand doc because he wants him to do his knees. He's an orthopedic doctor. Oh no I guess it's catching Bill. That's ok it's interesting to hear about what every one is up too. And Bill you had an upbeat attitude even when you were in the hospital. I was amazed at your spirit. I know what you mean about getting attached when you are long term in the hospital. Hey I thought you lived in California for some reason Bill. So were you in the hospital in Chicago then? Well I better get out and unwire that trunk and try to get that scooter in there. I don't want to pushing a manual wheelchair in this heat with my asthma and allergies. HOpe it works. Tonight is Jake owen, Little Big town and Montgomery Gentry. Talk to you all later. Take care and have a great day. Barb

Kitt I hope you had a nice pampering. And yes it was a pain in the back side but I am very hopeful I'll be back on my bike soon. I want to get another 25 pounds off this year!That's my goal for the next few years. I want to stick around to see my grand children grow up even though it is from a distance.

Posted 6/26/2009 1:24 AM (GMT 0)
Kitt -
Don't melt at the wedding. We have a game Friday at 3:30pm and it is supposed to be 90 here then also.

Barb -
I am in western Illinois. about 3 hours from Chicago and just across the river from Davenport, Iowa. I am in a small farming area. Wish I still worked on the farm, but all the small farms are gone around here. I don't like how the big farms run things. They are more like a factory than a farm.
Glad you had a good time listening to Taylor Swift. Enjoy yourself, but stay cool and dry.

Take care,
Bill
Posted 6/26/2009 5:20 AM (GMT 0)
Panda,
Do you know about the discount card from Astro Zenica (the people who make nexium)? I'm sure you probably do, but thought I'd mention it just in case.

Wow - is it hot everywhere? It was 91 today and I haven't had my window A/C put in because it's been so chilly here at night. It's almost a pain to get people to put it in now (have to pay them) and in a couple of months take it out again.

Cooling down a bit tomorrow and even more next week. Bill, I think you send your weather this way!

PaLady
Posted 6/26/2009 12:05 PM (GMT 0)

Good Morning All,

Bill
I am just up Highway 61 from you.  I was born and raised in La Crosse, WI and that is where we are headed today. I have been in your fair city :) Small world.

Barb,
I am glad you had such a great time,  you have so much spirit and nothing stops you.  You are amazing.  You look at the world through those beautiful rose colored glasses and life is good.  I am proud to be your friend.

PaLADY
The heat does seem to be everywhere right now. I cannot believe that next week is the 4th of July already. I am sorry to hear you must pay to have your AC unit intalled each year.  If we were near by I know my hubby would help you out.  We used to put ours in every year until we installed central air.

Bea, Denise, Janice and all, Have a wonderful Friday and I will be online if I can get a connection at the hotel.

Hugs to all,

Kitt

Posted 6/26/2009 4:54 PM (GMT 0)
Kitt -
I have been up 61 quite a lot. Now that it is 4 lanes it is faster to drive. I have been to La Crosse a few times, when I was a teen and worked a few farms in the Madison and DeForrest area.

PaLady - Sorry about the heat, but I am tired of it and want it to leave. The last few days all you had to do was stand outside and you would be sweating badly. I think we are going to move back to Virginia after my daughter graduates from H/S. Or aybe East Tennessee, I miss that part of the country.

Take care,
Bill
Posted 6/26/2009 6:44 PM (GMT 0)
Kitt,
Hope you have a great time at the wedding. How nice you could pamper yourself with a manicure and pedicure...you definitely deserve it. It's hot here, but the weather is really unsettled, and it has a chance of rain pretty much every day. Hopefully things will settle down with the forecast at Martha's Vineyard. My husband has been watching the forecasts there, and it has changed daily. We'll get what we get! It will be relaxing no matter what the weather.

Barb,
Glad you're enjoying the festival! My stomach has been acting up the last three days...I started on diflucan for my thrush problem (caused by inhaled steroids, predosone, and antibiotics...I got it right after surgery, and I don't think it has ever totally cleared. Anyway, after two doses my stomach started feeling horrible. My doctor now wants me to just take it every 3 days, which will definitely help. The bad thing is that I'll be going on vacation...I hope my stomach gets good enough to enjoy the food and drinks! Maybe I'll try the carafate for a little while.
Anyway...got to go and get packed.

Bill,
Glad to hear you're still doing well. I hope you have a great week, and get to do whatever you want between now and the time you go back to work. Be sure to take some time to treat yourself!

Bea,
Hope all is well with you...Once I 'm back, I'll start keeping in touch better. It has been a very busy few weeks!

Janice,
Hang in there...everyone here is available to support you through ANYTHING. I'll be thinking of you!

Bye everyone, see you in a week (I may be able to check in a bit mid-week...can't be sure)!
Denise
Posted 6/26/2009 8:37 PM (GMT 0)
Hey Bill, I was born and raised in Wisconsin and love the beauty of it all. Don't like winter so much any more. I lived in Clear Lake Iowa for 10 years where my hubby is from and hated it. NO wonder you want to move when your daughter graduates. I am trying to stay cool too, but it isn't easy out in this heat. At least it's not as humid as it was here. Little Big town and Montgomery Gentry were awesome last night. The traffic wasn't so bad and I got that scooter out of the trunk with some help from helpful Wisconsinites. I had to put it back in myself and then we just left it in all night and my hubby ran the power cord out there too charge it. I'm glad it worked out because he can hear me breathing when I push him in his manual chair and it scares him because of my heart and asthma and I am so glad that he is able to maintain his independence with it and ride around with me to look at the booths and get out of the heat in between acts.

Kitt, I had a mom that let life get to her and I vowed never to be like that. I no people feel sorry for me because my husband is handicapped, but who can say after 28 years that their husband loves them even more than the day we got married. He has stayed with me through all my illness and we have so much fun together. He's my soul mate. I know sometimes he gets down but I just remind him that most handicapped guys don't get to do the things he gets too and then he see's the world through my rose colored glasses. Lol. To tell the truth the glasses I actually have on right now are rose colored. It's one of my favorite colors. I guess that's why I have such a rosey out look.

Denise, you poor thing. What an awful thing to have on vacation. I used to have chronic yeast infections really bad until I started taking acidophilus. I have had one since my surgery too that I can't shake. This is not fun in the heat. My doc wants me to where dresses with out the panty hose so now my feet are swollen worse in the heat and my veins are really nasty looking. Oh well if it gets rid of the yeast I will be happy. My stomach feels really yucky today from the alchohal and junk like chocolate I have been eating lately and drinking. I hope this clears up along with the yeast. The lack of sleep makes me feel awful too. I will have to take all of next week to catch up on my sleep. HOpe you have fun and feel better on your vacation.

PA lady thanks and yes i did know that and the mail order company even offered a discount but it was still like $200 dollars. I already work 2 jobs to try to pay for all my med copays and supplements I have to take for my health problems.

Try to stay cool every one. I am off to sit in the heat and listen to my favorite music (COUNTRY). Catch you all later. Remember it's a great day because you are alive! I am blessed to call you all friends.  Barb 

Posted 6/26/2009 11:21 PM (GMT 0)

Just a quick Hello.  We are all tucked into a really great room here at the Stoney Creek Inn overlooking the valley below us and the bluffs just the other side of the valley. We have a walk out  room with a patio.

The bride, our niece, is so excited and just left with the bridal party to go out for the grooms dinner.  We are just kicking back and relaxing.

No rain here.  Weather is summertime warm.

Hugs to all,

Kitt

Posted 6/27/2009 1:09 AM (GMT 0)

Hi guys,

 its raining, gusty winds and hail here in staten island. KITT why didnt you tuck me in your suitcase I cudve eaten c rations lol. I'm leavin tuesday for Virginia then off to florida. Road trip ugh!! I loved them when the kids were little as they were famous for "Are we there yet?" Now my father in law lives in VA and cannot fly but can sit in a car go figure? We have the honors of taken him.He is 76 I believe. We are taken him to see his son,my hubbys brother ron. Ron hasnt seen him in 20 years.He comes to visit us here in NY but never to his fathers house.Their mom and dad divorced and he was a momma's boy.My hubby forgives every and all. So we will pick him up head down to miami.I will go to my uncle arthurs house.He is seeing an oncologist as his lung cancer is back. After a 2 day visit in coral springs florida with my uncle and their reunion, we will head for beautiful 'Anna Maria island".My maternal side is there. I love it.It is paradise. From there, I will head to universal studios and on the way stop and see my cuzin for 2 hours.I will stay a few days in Universal then head to roanoke ,Va to drop my dad in law.Stay over night there to rest and then come back home. PLEASE PRAY 4 ME!!! LOL. I go bak to work on July 13th so i will be home like the 11th or 12th. So if you guys do not here from me becuz of my rah rah rah schedule do not fret "I'll be bok" LOL

Hi Bill, Denise, Barb, Janice ,rick and everyone who I missed .Hope all is well. Has any1 heard from Bianca? Im still worried.

Bea

Posted 6/27/2009 3:00 AM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone! Everyone is so busy! you can sure tell it's summertime. The weather here has been equally hot..mid to upper 80's all eek, but I will not complain..not when you face the winters we have!

Bea is going all over the country, Denise is in Martha's Vineyard, Kitt is with family at the wedding, Barb had fun at the festival, Bill is coaching and I'm going back to Indiana..somehow that just doesn't sound as much fun as the rest of you!

Just wanted to drop in and say hi! I'll try to be back tomorrow!

You guys are great!
Janice
Posted 6/27/2009 6:31 AM (GMT 0)
Janice,
I'm staying put. No vacations in the budget here! And I shouldn't complain about the heat because winter just ended here about 2 weeks ago (at least it seems that way!). The night have stayed cold for so long, so at least I no longer need the heat!

Now next week it's going to cool down again and rain. Looks like this may be a summer where we get about 2 weeks of good weather. Oh, well...more important things to deal with, right?

For everyone on vacation, have a great time, and maybe you'll find Bill along the way! :-)

PaLady
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