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Posted 2/22/2010 6:19 PM (GMT 0)
I've been suffering from GERD for a few years now and while at times it lessens, other times is quite bad. I have heartburns and throat burns, and balls in my throat...you know the symptoms. I keep it in check (or not) with Nexium and Ompranit (Omeprazone) but it's quite bad actually. Plus I have halitosis due to this so I am really self-conscious particularly that hubby can feel it when I have it (mostly in the night).

I've read all over the place on the internet that raw cabbage juice was supposed to help with GERD, ulcers and generally heart burn so as I bought myself a juicer today, I bought also a cabbage and gave it a try. First I made myself a glass of other various mixes (carrots, celery and parsley) and that was quite yiummy. But then I made a mix of cabbage, a bit of ginger root and some parsley. As soon as I started drinking this, my back throat started to hurt like crazy. I said to myself it must be the ginger. So after a few hours I made a pure cabbage juice, and again, after a few sips even now I have so strong pain in the back of my throat like when I have the worst of GERD attacks. I thought cabbage juice was supposed to help with GERD? I tried to find any page on the net confirming what happened to me, but all pages and sites out there swear by cabbage juice as been the miracle cure for GERD and ulcers.

Did anyone who tried it had the same symptoms? I can't even drink this one glass, I'll stick with carrot and celery from now... And I was having so high hopes for this one sad
Posted 2/22/2010 6:21 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know about others but my doctor put cabbage on the no-no list. He said the acid content of cabbage can make GERD worse.
Posted 2/22/2010 6:23 PM (GMT 0)
Oh gawd...just check all the websites on the net talking about cabbage juice like the miracle cure for GERD. I really hate that. I'm throwing away the half full glass of juice, I just can't drink it...
Posted 2/22/2010 7:05 PM (GMT 0)
Careful of what you hear on the net. Some things are are not truely researched and can do more harm than good.
Your GERD sounds very severe. You need to see a GI about this. Don't be frighten of the surgery. I had the Hill procedure done laproscopy and I'm two months post-op. I have no problems with swallowing or burping. I don't know about throwing up as it has not presented itself yet.

Joy
Posted 3/10/2010 9:04 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,

I have no difficulty eating cabbage, raw or cooked. Not tried it juiced...seems so concentrated unless mixed with other juiced items. I use ginger, especially at the onset of even a sense of a sore throat. I cut a peeled slice (about 1/2 inch) and suck/gently chew it for several hours. (just one gentle bite down on it and then suck the juice, then do it again over a long time). Works wonders!

Good luck and research your research!! And even when something is legitimate data...it doesn't determine your specific case or how your body will respond; however, accurate data/research does give valuable information that can be very useful. For example, many on this forum discuss the difficulty of eating tomatoes. Although I have had 3 and approaching a 4th esophageal surgery and have had a lot of "problems", tomatoes, fortunately, are not on the list.

I hope you find the relief so need! I agree with Joy...explore the possible benefits surgery might provide you. I am so grateful for the relief and improved quality of life the surgeries have provided me over many years.
Posted 7/21/2010 1:15 AM (GMT 0)

Hi Ianyzo, I hope you get this - I believe from all the reading and studying I've done that the raw cabbage juice (taken immediately after it has been made - at least within one minute) will indeed help your condition - check these facts out "Garnett Cheney, M.D. demonstrated in the 1950s that fresh, raw cabbage juice could significantly increase the rate of healing in patients with gastrointestinal ulceration, In 1952, he had 100 peptic ulcer patients drink 4 glasses of fresh, raw cabbage juice daily. 81% of the patients were symptom-free within one week, and over two thirds were better within four days Dr. Cheney found that he could not bring on the same results when the cabbage juice was not fresh, and that heated cabbage juice was completely ineffective.] Hence, it was understood that an unknown, heat-sensitive substance was responsible for the results." reference : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Methylmethionine

If you have the ability at all to get this one book, please get it and read it for your condition - it could really impact your quality of living - it is called "Eating Alive - Prevention Through Good Digestion" by Dr. Jon Matsen. It explains how our digestive system and stomachs work in one of the most clear, simple and brilliant ways (using plenty of illustrations) - once you understand how it all works and how small changes in what you eat can greatly impact your life, it's a big motivator to make those simple changes. I wish you all the best as you endeavor to get healthier!

Posted 7/21/2010 5:14 PM (GMT 0)
It's been a few months since the OP posted, but I thought I'd just add that perhaps drinking the raw cabbage juice by itself is not good to start with? I don't have much experience with this, admittedly, but I do know that raw juices are usually mixed with other juices and perhaps one could start with a small amount of cabbage juice added to the carrot and celery juice, and then increase the cabbage juice on a daily basis?

And since everyone seems to be different as to what they can and can't handle, food-wise, perhaps not everyone does well with the cabbage. I follow a system called "Metabolic Typing" which reveals that there are different "types" metabolically and what is good for one person might be near poison for another, and this includes vegetables. Dr. Mercola (mercola.com) has a system based on Metabolic Typing called "Nutritional Typing" and there's a whole section on juicing, which can be used liberally by the "carb type" but not so much by the "protein type." And cabbage often doesn't agree with protein types, of which I am one. Anyway, might be worth checking out. Perhaps studying this material could be helpful in determining a diet that would help one's digestion.

Posted 8/22/2013 7:00 PM (GMT 0)
I know this topic has been dormant, but since it is ranked in the top three in Google for "cabbage juice cures gerd", I thought I should add my findings from last night (I find it more important that the topic be useful for googlers than annoying to forum trolls, IMO).

I've had GERD so badly for the past year that even a sip of coffee triggers it. Tums that I take in the night end up leaving chalk in the back my throat when I wake up. I choke on the clear phlegm balls caused by acid entering the esophagus. I have an inhalator. I was prescribed the Prilosec generic. I get short of breath and often can't breath easier unless I do one of those really deep burps.

Haven't really enjoyed food at all for a year -- year and half? Something like that.

My results from the first 'cabbage juice' trial was this. I didn't use a lot of cabbage juice. And I didn't use a lot of ginger (because it can burn the throat). I used mostly carrot and pear for the main amount, then just a bit of cabbage and ginger.

The results were astounding but not complete. I was able to enjoy a meal afterward, and even have coffee with breakfast. All I'm saying is, don't weed it out entirely as a solution because you are drinking it straight.

The *why* of cabbage juice for GERD is this: It's not because it soothes your throat. It's because it kills the h. pylori bacteria if placed in the same test tube. The h. pylori is the commonly known culprit for ulcers. Many people are looking at h. pylori for the cause of GERD as well. Frankly, after two juicings I'm believing them.

I've tried yogurt. I've munched in ginger. But the results have been negligible.

This juice combination is the best that has worked for me. 2 parts carrot, 1.5 part pear, 1 part cabbage .5 (or less, ginger). And it doesn't taste terrible.

That combo is doing me right. My stomach is settled and I don't feel like I'm going to choke after I eat. So, discredit it all you like, but the results I am seeing personally are nothing short of miraculous.

Check out these two links. They are what I used to find the 'cabbage juice cure'. And, admittedly it's only been less than 24 hours, but I've been having a great time of it so far.

H. Pylori connection to GERD:
http://chriskresser.com/more-evidence-to-support-the-theory-that-gerd-is-caused-by-bacterial-overgrowth

Anti-bacteria foods list:
http://www.rbcsgroup.com/OT/July-2004/Infection.htm
Posted 10/10/2013 12:53 PM (GMT 0)
hello.... I just want to add that I have tried cabbage with WONDERFUL results. It is actually amazing! I DID NOT add ANY Ginger in mine.
I personally just made my cabbage juice full strength and drink a full glass of 8oz. to 16oz. each time I drink it.
I had SUPER severe Heart burn, GERD... Acid Reflux. .. and am so thankful that it DOES WORK and fabulously so. I started drinking a whole 16oz. of full strength cabbage juice .... drinking it at night just before going to sleep and let it work all night long in my system and "MAN" what a relief. And if you keep it up consistently drinking it everyday both morning and evening (plus 1 or 2 times in the middle of the day IF YOU CAN) It will be one of the MOST BLESSED HEALING to your whole stomach, esophagus, intestinal and colon tract for thefor problem of GERD that you could ever imagine. Just don't be wimpy with drinking it. ... BE STRONG and say "I am going to do this for myself and I am going to stick with it and I AM GOING TO DRINK IT WITHOUT letting the taste bother me and dominate me & my decision to do this for myself and my healing" . Cause this ulcer remedy REALLY TRULY WORKS WONDERS if you will JUST DO IT and STICK WITH IT. And. .... it doesn't take very long to work. It's amazing! It started helping ME .....IMMEDIATELY! So SO so glad I learned of this absolutely BLESSED remedy! AND. ..I have to give all PRAISE TO GOD so helped me learn of this naturally healing remedy that He has provided for this stomach illness of mankind! JUST DO IT. ....You'll be SO SO glad you did. And in the mean while. ..eat and drink correctly by not putting things in your stomach that irritates the lining and problem as well. .. else you are working against your goal. Thanks. .. God Bless.
Posted 10/10/2013 1:05 PM (GMT 0)
Pardon me for SOME miswording or such above for I was typing everything from my phone and it's kind hard sometimes to get it all right. Phone keypad ... You know how it is LOL.... Thanks. StarShine Girl.
Posted 1/3/2014 9:06 PM (GMT 0)
I am so glad to find some more recent posts about this.

When I first tried the raw cabbage juice, it took my symptoms all away. I was feeling so good, as a matter of fact, I quit drinking the cabbage juice and lowered the head of my bed back down. Big mistake! Also I returned to drinking coffee (1 cup per day) and eating tomatoes and a few spicier foods. Ended up with Gerd big time again.

When I did the cabbage juice the first time, I cut out coffee, tomatoes, spicy food, and anything else that I had found to aggravate the condition.

I am back on the cabbage juice, but finding it harder to keep up with this time. In my estimation, it doesn't give instant results. It can take several days, but it works.

Apparently you can get powdered cabbage juice and put it in capsules and take it that way if it's too hard to drink the raw juice. I think that's my next step, since I'm not being very consistent this go round. Has anyone tried that? I am willing to go to the trouble of filling my own capsules because I have had such good results with the cabbage juice.

I also drink carrot and parsley juice at the same time I drink the cabbage juice. Organic cabbage makes better tasting juice, and could make the difference whether you are able to drink it or not!
Posted 1/3/2014 9:14 PM (GMT 0)
The raw cabbage juice remedy is not just something you "hear about on the internet'" it comes from a bonafide medical study done in the middle of the 20th century. Here is a link:


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1643665/
Posted 2/22/2014 5:28 PM (GMT 0)
How do you make cabbage juice? I don't have a juicer so I was wondering if you can make it in a blender and if so how?
Posted 9/1/2015 1:35 PM (GMT 0)
Well all I can tell is like you I have been on Nexium for 3 months and the doctor added carafate two weeks ago because the pain kept coming back. I eat blended chicken and oatmeal and mashed potatoes and some vanilla ice cream but I still have spells of heartburn. I ate bread yesterday and the pain came back again so I fixed the cabbage juice and I have had pain since yesterday. Maybe we are allergic to it but even the rx pepsid did not help last night. I will never try it. I am older and I think doctors believe older people like to complain. He is a good doctor but its been 6 months and all they say is we can change the nexium...
Posted 9/1/2015 2:03 PM (GMT 0)
Even though this thread was started in 2010 I see that there have been some recent replies. I thought I should shed some light about cabbage juice.

Since there are many different causes of GERD, cabbage juice will help some people and in others it won't work at all. Cabbage juice, if your body tolerates it, is specifically for stomach ulcers and/or people that have the H. Pylori bacteria.

If you have GERD only and no stomach ulcers than cabbage juice is NOT recommended. I fell for the cabbage juice solution back in 2011 and all it did was give me diarrhea, but it did nothing for my GERD and it irritated the crap out of my esophagitis and other parts of my digestive tract. It did seem to help with my gastritis though, but I didn't find it worth the problems it caused me.

Cabbage juice has been shown to be effective against stomach ulcers, I have yet to see any credible research that shows it's effective against GERD. There are also some people who cannot tolerate cabbage juice and it could make their GERD symptoms worse, which is what prompted me to write this post. I think as with anything that's out there, you should try cabbage juice only if you have a stomach ulcer and even then start off in small amounts.

At least for my body, I have found organic peeled red apples far more effective than cabbage juice at keeping my stomach alkaline and alleviating my GERD symptoms. This is why I eat half an organic banana and half a peeled red apple for breakfast everyday. All of our bodies are different, which is why it's important to keep a food journal. I see a lot of people who skip this very important step to the road to recovery because it's too much work.

I couldn't imagine knowing what I know now about which foods I can eat if it wasn't for my food journal. I think anyone who has problems with GERD should have one.   And if GERD has caused you damage such as gastritis or esophagitis, I think you should definitely have a food journal.

 

Posted 9/1/2015 2:26 PM (GMT 0)
Cabbage juice is an absolute miracle cure for stomach pain, but Gerd not so much. In fact it really irritates my esophagus to the point I just can't have it anymore and have to just put up with the stomach pain rather than set off my Gerd .

The stuff tastes revolting as well, and I find carrot juice another no-no for GERD so can't even make it more palatable with that.
Posted 9/2/2015 1:27 AM (GMT 0)
Cabbages are in the cruciferous vegetable family, along with brussel sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower etc. They are notorious for causing excess gas build up because they contain higher concentrations of glucosinate, which through the digestive process ends up as sulforaphane. Its the sulforaphane which is supposed kill the h. pylori bacteria, and what people claim helps fight cancer. There is some evidence to this because sulforaphane is great at attacking cells, it just doesn't distinguish between healthy and damaged cells.

The excess gas can get quite painful, and cabbage is hard to break down which can exacerbate problems if you are already having trouble with digestion, thats why cruciferous vegetables sit pretty high on the list of foods to avoid for GERD sufferers. Some may find they tolerate cooked cabbage just fine, I know I do, but cooking cabbage removes roughly 75% of the glucosinate (differs for each cooking method) so the amount of sulforaphane is drastically reduced. So while you might be ok with cooked cabbage, you could find raw cabbage still gives you trouble.

The other thing is that by taking it as a juice, you are effectively consuming a great deal more than you would if you just ate some raw cabbage, so again higher chances for some kind of irritation or ill effects.
Posted 12/6/2015 1:41 PM (GMT 0)
My god, me too.

I just had a massive flare up, my first one I am not an expert in these problems, but I had massive pain all the way through my digestive system, probably caused by eating sugar way too much. Anyway I thought I was going to die.

On the internet there is a famous study from 1949 that treated patients with 1 litre of raw cabbage juice a day, and after 3 or 4 days all the patients were pain free.

Wow, I thought, let's do that. I tried for 2.5 days.

My god, the pain was off the scale. It must have multiplied my problems by 4. I was awake all night prayer to god hoping he would save me.

Now I am on banana, strawberry, fig, date (not too many) shakes. And hot water (no tea bags). And some gaviscon.

And Omeprazole PPI 20mg.

Thank you very much.

Anyway I haven't died yet, so that's the good news.

I might try cabbage soup once I have stopped dying ... and only a little bit, I am wary now.

Perhaps I might one day try a tiny little weeny bit of cabbage juice mixed with everything else.

And we'll see.

My system didn't need the cabbage shock.
Posted 11/10/2016 4:02 PM (GMT 0)
I know im late to the party but acid reflux and gastritis is ruining my life. I tried cabbage juice it helped then one night my whole bowels became inflamed. And it amplified my gastritis pain×10. Im so at my wits end i dont trust these doctors and natural medicine is failing me. I feel like my quality of life is decreasing so much....
Posted 11/11/2016 11:15 PM (GMT 0)
You shoul Get a recommendation from your regular family doctor.d really start your own thread. Please see the Post New Topic button at the top and bottom of each page.

You can't not trust doctors and "natural medicine" too. Please see another doctor, a gastroenterologist. He's the one trained in this specialty. If you don't like one, try another.

A lot of the stuff you read on forums is not real medicine and some of it is dangerous. We're not doctors. All we can do is tell you of our experiences.

For me, I can't eat cabbage in large amount. It's one of the vegetables that contains sulfites, which I don't tolerate. But don't automatically think you have the same problem. See a real doctor!
Posted 9/30/2017 3:08 PM (GMT 0)
I have had acid reflux for over a year now.. did fundoplication 2 months back.. been better since. the doctor had told that I may have a bit of reflux sometime but I won't have to have meds regularly.
last week i was diagnosed with IBS. read online that cabbage juices help to add fiber into the diet. so tried it.. after abt an hour of drinking it I had terrible acid reflux.. for a moment I tout my wrap failed as it was really bad. but then I drank a bit of milk and water and it settled. I am not drinking cabbage juice anymore..
Posted Today 9:10 AM (GMT 0)
Isnt one day/ 2 dosages too quick of a time to tell if something really works? Im not saying it does or that it would've solved your problem, but i think by drinking it today and say it doesn't work by this evening seems a bit quick for something like this. The juice works by the minerals it contains helping to repair, heal and strengthening the stomach walls. That healing is not gonna take place in a few hours. But if ulcers weren't your problem to begin with, then you might not notice a difference or it may seem worse because of all the fibre; even worse if you're not used to it. I will be trying the cabbage juice for 3days to see if it helps ulcers. Wont be making a conclusion till i fnish n see how i feel after a while (except of course if i couldn't finish for whatever reason)
Posted 2/18/2019 12:51 PM (GMT 0)
For all of you with a hiatal hernia, there is a chiropractic manipulation that takes care of it! I don't know if I have it yet, will find our soon.
A doctor told me green veggies are the solution for gerd -- we didn't even consider an ulcer. But my esophagus burns every night. I forgot to ask him how come ir burns when I am upright. How can mynstomachnacid reach my esophagus against gravity?
My real question is: Has anyone tried.a cabbage smoothie instead of juice? I wanted to buy a blender instead of a juicer. I read mixed results for cabbage juice, but people seem to have an ulcer...The esophagus pain is no joke!
A friend told me his mother healed her reflux with acidophilus. I have been taking probiotics but no results so far. GERD, of course, is way more severe than reflux. Mine is there all the time though I haven't drank a drop of alcohol or coffee for years, never liked spicy foods and have been vegetarian for years. Does anyone know what causes this? In Spain ppl eat late at night and the incidence of acid reflux is no worse than in the States. I always ate late at night, had to stop because of this, but so far I still suffer with throat and esophagus burning so I wonder if it makes any difference.
My most BURNING (haha) question then is whether a cabbage smoothie has worked for anyone else.
Thank you!
Posted 6/8/2020 4:59 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,
Responding to Joyoflife Post: I am wondering since your last post did you try making your cabbage juice smoothie? I was diagnosed with LPR back in 2018, my Doc had prescribed Pantoprazole (Protonix) I took it according to what was prescribed and it only made it worst. You had mentioned almost all the symptoms I have except, only at nights when the acid comes up in my esophagus. and yes, it is really painful! I did some research and saw the cabbage juice. Well, I said let me treat it as an ulcer even tho my doctor didn’t say that. I personally think STRESS could be a factor that causes our digestive system to be imbalance. I must say I have been drinking CB juice as a smoothie for the past week and I don’t get any improvement. I don’t have a Juicer so I don’t know if that has something to do with it not being in its purest form. Please let me know if you find some form of relief.
Posted 6/9/2020 2:11 PM (GMT 0)
Carole:

Joyoflife only posted once and hasn't been back to the Foruum. I suggest you start your own post, and hopefully others will come along and offer their advice. The Forum has been very slow lately.

Sharon
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