Burping Issues

Cowboy-

Welcome to Healing well. What you describe sounds like what I have when I swallow too much air. Other than that I really don't have much advice on this.

Take care,
Bill

Hey Cowboy,

I have the EXACT same issue as you. If I take a deep breath I usually create the pressure necessary to do the burp, which comes from my throat just like you describe. If I open my mouth to let it out it can come out, but as a weird burp almost like a duck sound or something. I swear what you describe is the exact same thing I have been feeling now for just under a year...you are the first person I have seen who has described the same thing...

I wouldn't worry about cancer too much. Just FYI I have a very low cancer risk according to doctors, have had 3-4 endoscopies in 4 years, all normal (despite reflux). My last endoscopy was in March 2011, and was normal. I started with this symptom you note in May, 2011. Clearly not enough time to get cancer to develop.

I see my dr. in March and this is something I will ask him about. I hope to be in touch then and share what he says. As I noted, it really is UNCANNY how what you describe is exactly what I am feeling. I made a post about bloating trying to find someone else with it but had no luck, and am very glad I came across your thread.

I haven't been too worried about it so hadn't googled it til just now...Here is someone that kind of describes it, having it occur after a Nissen:

http://www.heartburn-help.com/MessageBoard41/_disc22/000000f2.htm

I am a young guy too (28), and have had GERD for 4 years. I thought it was likely due to a motility issue in the esophagus or some effect of GERD (like stricture or something). No idea though...just don't think its serious...will find out from my dr. in April.

Post Edited (theacidrefluxman) : 1/27/2012 6:49:30 PM (GMT-7)

Hey guys,

I can provide some insight! I have similar issues with burping.

I've had it for a while and I am learning more and more everyday honestly.

I don't get acid reflux that often maybe once every a couple of months but I think mine is more like lpr or something in the guts "intestinal".

I do get the sore throat, throat clearing and especially those odd burps that do not sound normal but come from the throat and vibrate your esophagus.

Anyways I've been approaching my condition the natural way, since I tried the conventional medicine for 4 years and nothing ever helped. I did have 3 endoscopies in the last 4 years. I have a little irritation according to the dr and the results.

Since last year I decided to treat my issue naturally. So I went natural and saw a Naturopathic Dr.

Based on test i've taken i tested positive for h pylori, a bacteria in the stomach. However, I didnt do the conventional testing at a hospital or clinic where they do the blood test or stool test.

Through my Naturopathic Dr. I went through the lab "Metametrix" to test me. They found h pylori and a parasite "dientamoeba"

So my Naturopathic recommended some parasite formula and this was the BREAKTHROUGH I was looking for. In the 5 years that I've suffered I had never felt any better than the time I took the supplements she told me about "parasite formula" I kid you not I had NO BURPING for the 2nd round with the formula.

now MY MISTAKE, I chanted victory too early because I eliminated many other possible allergens and added some of them too early and didnt take it long enough and I had lost too much weight.

I am super thin now, I weigh 124 pds so taking these supplements will definitely knock out a couple of more pounds.

The bottom line is that I truly believe my lpr/gerd is cause by my h pylori and parasite!

I am treating the h pylori now and trying to gain weight to try another parasite formula for the parasite.

Have any of you been tested for this?

The only way to find out if you have parasites or h pylori is to test it through a differnt method rather than relying on the same methods. I am not saying that this definitely lead you to a cure but its possible. I BELIEVE as long as there is no structural damage, hederitary GERD, or hiatial hernia, or anything like that then I do believe the issue lies in the guts.

The month I took the parasite formula was the best I've ever felt. I had no burping it was completely gone with the exception of once or twice a day.

Personally I wanted to get further test to see what was the cause we went through the lab "Metametrix" google them. They test your body with DNA to id any parasite, bacteria, pathogen in your guts but it is expensive so beware. Ive done it twice already. They only test and do run sensitivity test on certain bacteria but not all because some can and some cannot be cultured. This is how they found my h pylori and "dientamoeba"

The formula I took was "Paragone" by Renew Life. They have a site and you can get it on Amazon. The reviews are good, so I researched this product darn good before I took it.

If we have minimal gerd symptoms & have dry burping all the time then it has to be coming from the gut, something must be pushing the gas back up, which I think is a parastie or bacteria.

But beware it can make you lose weight and you do have to adjust your diet with the Paragone.
Side effects for me? No side effects but just a little more bw movements. Not too extreme, but you start off with a smaller dose to get your body use to it. Some of the reviews were interesting others were super detailed, not sure if its good or bad for the buyer.

Also, I dont think conventional medicine accepts or tests these pathogens with the best techonology available. I've devoted my free time researching on my own in journals, sites, and my dr to try to find a combination that work and tests that are different. Not everything will work for everyone but this is what made a difference for 1 month in my life after 5 long years of suffering.

Like I said I hope to go on the paragone back again but only when I gain weight. Anyways hows' the garlic? I also tried almost everyting in the natural side of supplements.

Anayways if you guys have questions let me know.

Post Edited (Nickles) : 1/28/2012 1:19:45 PM (GMT-7)

I had a journal as I did it, so I would say about 80 percent gone, I would get here in there BUT I could feel the difference.

I only believe lpr/gerd are caused by what you said when we rule out structural damage like a hiatal hernia I think. I rule that out for me so this is the reason I think it is the guts.

What have you tried sk5

Hi Bruce,

Cool, that is really interesting. I checked out the wikipedia entry on it and the image they show has the little pouch exactly where I feel I burp air from. But it does say "A simple barium swallow will normally reveal the diverticulum. Endoscopy should not be performed due to the risk of perforating the diverticulum". I had a barium swallow not too long ago which came back normal, although this problem did develop after it. Ditto with endoscopies.

hi everyone...i have this same problem for the last 5 months and i've been desperate to get an answer or at least some understanding. i was fine one day, woke up the next day out of nowhere with belching. it hasn't stopped a single day since. i've been to 2 GIs who have no answers. all my tests i've had are "normal" so the drs don't seem concerned. something has to be causing this. i belch on an empty stomach and even worse when i eat or drink anything (even plain water). it's as if my stomach can't handle any air?? i take a sip of something to drink (NOT carbonated) and within 40 seconds i have to belch. all my tests show nothing wrong, no structural damage, no h. pylori....does anybody have any ideas?? parasites? bacteria? anything?

Hi, I would love to hear an update on those people posting about burping as I too have exactly those symptoms, albeit silent burps which began last month - out of the total blue.

Quick note: You can have peptest through a British company (they take international orders) which tests for pepsin in your saliva. This would definitively allow you to confirm whether or not if you have LPR. If you test negative you can definitely rule it out. Sadly, I tested positive. Silent burping is all (as I understand it) part and parcel of LPR.

Also I have read on this forum of a nurse of long-standing (who in fact worked at one point in a GI section in a hospital) who also had this condition/specific symptom. She ultimately found some relief in seeking treatment for the C5 issue in her cervical neck. Could it be neck related? The interaction with the Vagus nerve would make this understandable. I, myself, have foraminal stenosis in my C5 region and am having physiotherapy for it. (I'm hoping this might be a hopeful sign for a positive development. I, too, burp silently about 25 times a day - often when rising from a seated position or certainly after having taken a drink of water.).

I met with an eminent ENT surgeon on Harley Street in London last week. He scoped me and said all was very much in order, e.g., fine, with my throat. He did say the burping (which too is really my sole concerning issue at this point) is often a side effect in the aftermath of the Nissen surgery. He said this was largely due to the fact that the UES and the LES were out of sync. He said the standard treatment in the UK for this was to prescribe Amitriptyline 10 mg (Elavile in the USA I understand) as it could have an effect on the Vagus nerve which they believe controls much or, indeed, all of this. (I'm not a doctor, sadly. Just a seeker of wisdom.) This would play into the theory that it was at least in part attributable to tension/anxiety.

Much thanks to all you input. It will be, I know, ultimately life-saving - and certainly confidence winning.

Bless you.