I see trails (or to call it a tiney light) following any moving object

Hey is this post still active????? I have the same issues

I have this too

Yah started last year and its getting worse I thing I'm having trails and after images and floaters and tiny white flash dots isk how to describe it lol I have a lot lol

Hey imhopp I have a feeling it is a floater cuz i have that too

Been awhile, been going through some other things that have been pretty traumatic.


As for the issue me and Nana discussed, at least for me, it has remained the same. I noticed over time that while there, if I didn't focus on it and get upset about it, my mind slowly forgot. To the point that I may be seeing it but not really registering consciously per say. So I don't react. I can of course make myself see it, lighting conditions matter the most. Typically low lighting, or a bright source like a bright screen and moving my hand or objects over a dark desk or keyboard.

So it's always there. I don't believe it has changed at all. I never have gotten an answer to this, or what causes it.

But it's either an eye issue (unlikely), or a brain issue (likely). It probably is illusory palinopsia, idiopathic for me. No known cause, just appeared. It seems incredibly odd something can just "appear" one day for no apparent reason, but it did.

I've tried to figure out the why, and have not ever been able to find a link between me and others. Outside say, stress. Which everyone has, and not everyone has this.

I'm also near sighted, have a good amount of floaters and years ago did have periods of odd visual anomalies (not anymore) such as seeing certain lines and patterns wave and oscillate and such.

Like everyone else, the doctors clear me for my eyes being fine, even with an in depth image retina scan.

So, it's likely a brain issue.

My biggest tip would be to not focus on it (easier said than done). My mind finally moved onto other issues I was having which helped separate myself from it. I don't react to it as badly anymore, and that has then in turn allowed my mind to not as easily pick up consciously that I'm seeing it.

Mookz, a lot of doctors who can't look at you and diagnose you in their pre-determined medical book of diaganoises will say you're fine, and tell you to just get used to it or take antidepressants.

For me and Nana, and others I've spoken too, we never took antidepressants. So, while not entirely impossible to be YOUR cause, it wasn't ours.

I will say, you should get off of anti-depressants with a set guideline to do so from your doctor. They're destructive and many have bad side effects and/or worsening of problems.

Consider St. John's Wort for a natural alternative for getting depression under-control. There's other options out there as well, for energy production and keeping your mind calm which all helps keep you well.

Sadly, there's a lot of issues in the brain we can't see. MRI's are still incapable of going to a deep enough level to truly show everything. It's likely a brain problem, but that also means there can be a solution and coping through the brain. By not focusing on it, and negatively reacting to it, over a long period of time it does get better. It took me over a year, so it's not quick. Especially if you already suffer from anxiety and depression.

Finding things that bring you joy, keeping yourself occupied and busy, are good ways to push through. Your mind is capable of ignoring things it doesn't find interesting or a threat. When we make it a threat, your mind will focus on it and you will get stuck in that cycle.

It would be great if we could find a Neuro-otologist or Neurologist who CARED enough to involve themselves into this issue, but finding one who has the resources and expertise is difficult to find.

Mookz520 said...
Clemxiii

Yah I been off those antidepressants I never really started it I took like like 5 and that's it I dropped it its been a year and I still got it its annoying and yah those drs don't even try I hate it.

Idk why and how we got it but I sure hope it goes away.

Do you think if its likely a brain issue it'll become worse or effect our brain?

Assuming it really is idiopathic illusionary palinopsia, from the literature I have seen on it, there's zero evidence to suggest it will worsen substantially or cause any issue to the brain.

It seems to be some type of visual processing issue in the brain. And I only see it in my peripheral when things move, in certain lighting (usually low). I've also tested that I can see it on stationary items, but following say the tip of a pen, or my finger, past the object (object needs to have some type of light to it compared to the surrounding) and I will see the stationary object ghost outwards as I track past it.

So what is happening in the brain to cause this processing error I can't say. Especially when I one day didn't have it, then suddenly did. Seems very odd, right? Same with Nana and others, just suddenly appeared. Makes little to no sense that some mystical brain processing issue would just occur for no reason.

But I've exhausted my attempt to figure it out. Is it brain, is it eyes, is it a combination of both. Something else, I just don't know.


I've read many people who don't see it to our extent, claim they DO see it though when in the dark, with their phone screen lit. If they wave it around they can see a trail following it. So, I don't know, it could be a normal phenomenon that we're just more aware of, or our brain's are way more active and picking it up?

If I could go back in time, I definitely would of went to medical school and involved myself in the field of these neurological/brain issues affecting the eyes and ears. There's a subset of people with both visual/ear issues that never get help, and no research or care goes into solving those issues because a minority of people have it. I would of loved to try to help fix that if I was starting college all over again.

Mookz520 said...
Wow I have exactly what u have u described it perfectly i needed u when I went to see my neuro ophthalmologist lol low lighting or not I see it too once a dr told me that I'm very hyper aware of my vision cuz of what I see so maybe it is normal lol idk I dont remember see ing at all before

Interesting enough I've been told I'm hyperaware of things too. I also have anxiety/depression too from tinnitus/hyperacusis that I think also played a role in making me more hyperactive to things and noticing these things. I can also see the white blood cells in my eyes, well used too (I don't look for it anymore), and my doctor thought I was very hyper aware of things.

Perhaps it's a combination of something slightly off in the processing of our brain, sprinkled with some sort of hyper awareness to things.

I'm a very in tuned person to emotions. Just in my nature. I REALLY feel sadness, or joy, or anger, if that makes sense. Things affect me deeply. I think that has a role on my body, how it reacts and how I then notice and focus on it.

While I still fully see it, and even the last day or two I felt like I've been seeing it more gaming/watching some movies, I do know I've felt better when I truly step away from it and don't focus on it. That takes a long time for me to get to that point, but it definitely helped. If I stop seeing it as a threat, even if it's there, the brain does a decent job of filtering our attention away from it.

Hi everyone , I've been having the same thing happen to me , like a catch up trailing and also really bad afterimages . Anyone the wiser on what is causing it ?

I have had this exact problem ever since 2015. I see trails behind anything moving (worse in dim/low light), I have also noticed if I look at a light and then look away that the light follows my eye movement. I would say it's gradually got worse over the 5 years.. but not to the extent that I worry what it'll be like in the future. I have been to the opticians several times since the onset of the visual problems, each time they have found absolutely nothing wrong (apart from the issue with tracking moving objects my vision is absolutely perfect - 20/20 according to the opticians). After failing at the opticians, I went to the doctors countless times only to be told that its migraine related (ugh if I had a pound for every time I heard that), after my 4th or 5th visit the doctors referred me to the opthalmology department at my local hospital. They did several extensive exams and the only problem they found was that I had slightly weak eye muscles (they gave me a few eye exercises to do daily and sent me on my way) after trying the eye exercises for a few months I went back to the opthalmology department and they did another set of tests and still found no abnormalities with my eyes. I have since given up chasing the eye problem route and have started looking towards a brain problem. After being referred to the neurological department twice and having a full mri done, they found nothing wrong with my brain. The neurologist said its either down to migraines (recommending 500mg fiboflavin and 400mg magnesium daily) or its down to neuron excitability (the only way to sort this is to trial several different medications which have far worse side affects). After 5 years and many visits to different specialists I now feel confident that this must be benign. I find comfort in knowing that I have down everything in my power to try to sort it and there is nothing more I can do. As a few others on the forum have mentioned, trying not to think about it definitely helps, as does a good sleeping pattern and a stress free life. I hope this can help someone on this forum. It is absolutely horrible and is very hard to deal with. Feel free to ask me any questions.

I also want to let all of you know, to try a chiropractor, I heard that in some instances it can solve certain problems that you would never think it could. I researched and looked on YouTube someone’s palinsopa was cured. Oddly enough that’s an option that I’m considering. I hope everyone gets past this! God bless ))))

After making my previous post I was looking for examples of what I see when I move my hand infront of my face (not all the time).

If you watch this video and go to 3min 14secs that first handwaving example is a good indicator. Does anyone else here think that is an accurate representation of what they experience?

https://youtu.be/I6oEY8X9xhE

Post Edited (Sector78g) : 11/21/2020 8:19:02 AM (GMT-7)

Oen171 said...
Good evening Sector,

Over the years have you noticed anything that makes the visual disturbances worse? Also, anything that helps alleviate the symptoms when you're going through a tough period? I have had a lot of exams recently which have caused me to stress alot more than usual, since starting the exams I have noticed my visual problems get so much worse. I hope this stops progressing:/

Hello Oen,
I haven't noticed anything that has alleviated my symptoms as of yet. There have been long periods where I haven't noticed any issues so maybe it's brought on by something, but I haven't managed to find what yet. I decided to post on here today because this morning I saw the trail of my hand prominentely when I woke up, I can't replicate it now though - I'm going to see if the same happens tomorrow morning. I'll be mentioning this to my neurologist next time I see him (I go for regular checkups because of the Stroke) although I know for sure it's not related as it started way beforehand.

When you have a Stroke as I did, the hospital give you a lot of examinations/tests/scans etc so I do know that it is not a sign of something serious or life threatening - hopefully that puts others at ease if they are worried and reading this.

Good luck with your exams btw. 👍