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Posted 7/24/2013 5:20 PM (GMT 0)
New here, and in need of some support or advise! I am a 42 year old woman with a great husband and 2 boys. I have suffered with anxiety and depression since I was 20, which started as a panic attack. Over the years i have tried to get by with reading and no meds, but in 2004 I suffered a bad anxiety and depression episode, and because I had a 3 year old at the time, I decided to go on meds. I started with 10mg of celexa and worked up to 20, which I had been on for the last 8 years with no problems! I was feeling absolutely great and life was just fine until 3 1/2 weeks ago. We were leaving on our annual camping trip, and I was towing our boat and following behind my husband who was towing the trailer. Suddenly my head felt strange and all of a sudden I was in full on panic attack mode (which I haven't felt in 8 years!) I tried deep breathing and carried on and eventually I was able to pull through, but I was left with the feeling if impending doom! I managed to get thru the first week ok, but then suddenly I was feeling intensely anxious again, because I was thinking about all the years I had suffered, and I thought I was clear, and here I am again at square 1. My doc upped my dose from 20mg, to 30 and I have done so for 2 1/2 weeks and actually I feel worse now. I can barely get through work, I am so wired with this anxiety and racing thoughts etc.. I feel like I did when I was 20 and I just don't want to go that long again without relief!! Please have any of you had an antidepressant poop out? Would a switch work? Benzos? I am so anxious and cant eat! I need to be strong for my boys and myself! any advise or support would be wonderful!!
Posted 7/24/2013 5:29 PM (GMT 0)
My husband had a recent poop out on 20 mg of Celexa. They upped his dose to 40 mg and he's feeling much better now. There were a few really bad weeks - it's kinda like when you start Celexa, I think. When I started Celexa the first time, it was for pure depression. I felt better quickly. When I started it for panic, though, for the first few weeks it grew more intense.

So, I think this might just be part of the process, but I'd suggest a call to your doctor since it sounds like you're pretty concerned.

It may be time to try something new or to add a benzo or something else for break-through anxiety. Also, have you considered therapy? I don't have children, but I would imagine that between work and raising two children, an hour or so every so often to focus only on yourself and how YOU feel might be a welcomed relief. ;) Therapy has been key for myself and many members of this forum.

If you haven't already, I also encourage you to check out the resources our fabulous moderators have put together for us. They're in the first post on the first page of this forum.

In the meantime, please know that you're not alone and there are a lot of people here who do understand!
Posted 7/24/2013 7:22 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Mom, I havent had any expierence with these drugs, but had a hard time with PAD, been ok for
many years now, you have come to the right place for answers, so stand by for a lot of new friends,
we are glad you found us, Peace

Larry ***
Posted 7/24/2013 7:29 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Coopsmom,

First of all, finding this site was a step in the right direction.  I found it about 3 years ago. First because I was researching reflux surgery, but happily I found the anxiety forum as well.  It is a great site!

I was born with underlying anxiety, but it was always manageable, until 2007, right around the age of 40.  I was in an extremely stressful job, and out of nowhere started to have panic attacks when giving presentations, and worst of all, like you just had, while driving - mostly on the highway, or places I didn't know well.  Also in the store etc.  Or, just out of nowhere for no reason????

I was so against meds because my dad was always on them and he seemed to get worse.  I tried numerous therapists and it just didn't click originally.

I fought my family doctor on anti-depressants, but did agree to a benzo that I could take "as needed" to save my job; Klonopin.  It was helpful, and still is, however, your body always needs more over time because it gets used to the original dose.  I keep it in control though, and so does my doctor.

Less than a year ago I agreed to go on a low dose of Lexapro because he is trying to ease up on my use of klonopin.  He has upped my does of Lexapro, but I still need both for now.  Have to admit, I forget to take my Lex every night, but I do take it most nights. Notice little difference, or maybe it is why I feel a bit better?

I also try a lot of natural rememdies; Rescue Remedy by Bach, and I did go to a good therapist for about a year.  I have a bit of break through here and there, but I am grateful to find this blend that works for me.  My ultimate goal is to not need either, but that means I have to keep working on the mindfulness techniques, and probably head back to therapist.

Maybe, due to your job, a benzo would help in the short term, but a word of cautions; while I in no way think I am addicted to them, I think they are an easy quick fix until I can "find" time for more natural remedies, which I never find the time for.... that's the warning.  But I work with clients and I can't very well test myself without the benzo too often for fear of losing my job.  I panicked in front of clients a couple times prior, and never want to go through that again!!!!  They say panic surfaces from the fear of just having one, and I think that is what I experience.

I applaud you for making it back from that trip.  I know that terrible out of body experience when driving, and fighting it the best I can until I could get out of the situation - so scary!!!!  I've had little "light" episodes I easily work through with meds, but test myself off klonopin when I have no where to go for a day. 

Our illness is different than taking a pill for high blood pressure, or using insulin for blood sugar, but nonetheless, it is a troubling disorder, and there are meds to help ease the burden while we try natural remedies.  Much like diet and exercise can get someone off meds for sugar, or blood pressure, that is what I strive for with anxiety.  I use them until I know I can ease off and heal myself with the correct behaviors and practices.  Best of luck to you!!!!  Virgo Girl

Posted 7/24/2013 8:30 PM (GMT 0)
I want to be real with you because I have been through what you are going through now,and I had years where I was doing good to the point the doctor started to wean me off zoloft. 100 mcg from 14 to 28years old what young girl should have to go through as many deaths as I did,I know every person has went&been to a funeral of someone in their family I knew nothing of death until my close love ones died. Would be when I lost my dad&then his dad,I lost 2aunts in the same week just like my dad&grandpa,and then my worse heartache my moms mom. My grandmother&that broke me ll the way down doing this time,I was still having surgeries had to have a tumor remove from my up.top parts,this is around the time where I kept hearing double removal of my woman parts men love I was only 16. So my point is when life start to look good&beautiful stress free/anxiety free,it's call living it up&enjoying every bit of life like we should. But then there are those times when something stop moving&we lose it,and trust me that major panic attack didn't just come out of the blue. You had small things happen that would soon cause the melt down and thats where that large panic attack come from&the feeling of doomed thats usely how it work,and it's no fun the sad part is I still haven't got over it yet. And it's even harder to get over the fear it left best of luck to you and your healing.
Posted 7/24/2013 9:46 PM (GMT 0)
Coopsmom-- What you are experiencing is not uncommon for people with panic and anxiety disorders. Relapses can occur, but they can also be treated successfully. Your doctor can try different medications that can once again treat your anxiety. Hold on to that that thought . Anxiety disorders can be treated. I had a brief relapse many years ago. My doctor worked with me and was able to restore my health. Benzodiazapines are great for short-term relief but can become habit forming. Look for a long-term solution. The releif will come. Good luck to you.

Ian
Posted 7/24/2013 9:56 PM (GMT 0)
Hi :) I just recenty (last 6mos or so) started having panic attacks. I'm already on an anti-depressant (for my bipolar, effexor xr). But, since that I was prescribed Xanax for attacks and it's helped tremendously. I also have recently began seeing a therapist and that's a route I also think can be important.
Posted 7/25/2013 2:21 AM (GMT 0)
I'm so grateful to hear your replies! I did have a very bad morning, however my work day was somewhat ok. I have realized that this is not a quick fix. and that I will have to work on my healing. I know that anxiety wont kill me, but it sure is uncomfortable!! I am seeing my GP tomorrow and see how that goes. Not sure if maybe I should take my dose higher or lower or what? I'm worried now that meds wont work for me and I will have to suffer through all of the typical anxiety feelings. ugh don't want to go through this again!!!
Posted 7/25/2013 2:36 PM (GMT 0)
Well today has been a particularly bad day so far! Upon googling celexa poop out stories, I had come across so many unsettling stories that have put my already anxious state into an even bigger one. I had a decent afternoon yesterday, and now I am feeling like crap again!! I want to cry, scream, etc... This inner nervousness and heightened state has really got me down. All the what if's are in full swing! What if my depression comes back too, what if it gets so bad that I can't cope, what if meds wont ever work again, what if I feel this way forever, and I desperately desperately wish I could feel like I did a month ago. I cry as I type, hoping my 4 year old wont see. What if my depression is worse than before? What if I become manic? I am so fearful of these things, as I was before starting meds, but I always use to tell myself,"don't worry, you can always resort to meds if you need to" So now I have been on them for so long, that I am now thinking that "well I did the meds and that stopped helping, so now what" I am utterly fearful that this it it for me, and that there will be no relief pill this time around! Reading stuff on the internet can really mess with your brain! Please I need to hear some positive personal experiences!! P.S I haven't seen my gp yet. Going at 11. any advise? thank you!!!!!!!
Posted 7/25/2013 5:29 PM (GMT 0)
I'm sorry I wasn't on before your appointment, but hope you'll check back in with us after. :)

Since you're new here, I invite you to join us in an unofficial pledge we seem to have around here -

Repeat after me, "I will not search the internet for any symptoms I am feeling or health issues I am facing, unless advised to do so by my doctor." :-P

Seriously, that can be SUCH bad news!

You're going to be okay. It may take time, but just like you told yourself before that you could resort to meds, try to keep telling yourself that there are still many options out there. Probably just different or stronger meds.

It's going to be okay - it really is. In the meantime, we're right here with you! Hugs!
Posted 7/25/2013 5:48 PM (GMT 0)
Well, back from doctor, he was not terribly sympathetic. Told me that obviously my celexa has stopped working and time for a new one. Originally he said remeron, then I said that I didn't know that one, then he said, well how about zoloft, so I had heard good things about that so I agreed. He also gave me a prescript for 0.25 of Klonopin to get me through the worst of it. I was literally crawling out of my skin, and my apprehensions of med changes etc... have me completely on edge, not to mention that the doc said trying this new med is a 50 50 chance blah blah blah. I am so overloaded with stuff in my head right now, I can't think straight. I am going to start the weaning tonight, from 30 to 20, then 20 every other day for 2 weeks as per his advise, then on 2nd week I start on the zoloft. I am praying that this works. Again, please any positive med change stories will be so great!!! Thank you!!!!!
Posted 7/25/2013 8:11 PM (GMT 0)
So I took a klonopin and it has not reduced my nervousness. I feel like I need relief! Should I take another?
Posted 7/25/2013 9:31 PM (GMT 0)
Coops-- I wouldn't take more than the recommended dosage unless approved by the physician. My panic disorder is successfully treated with Zoloft and Atenolol. Call your doctor and ask him if you can increase your Klonopin dosage. Remember, Klonopin takes longer to take effect than Xanax and Ativan.
Posted 7/25/2013 10:42 PM (GMT 0)
Hi welcome

Your story is almost exact to mine. After my son at 26 I could not take it and went on Paxil. I was on 25mg till it stopped working in January. Upped the Paxil to 37.5 and doing therapy. Not back to normal and so frustrated. Today is such a bad day. I have Xanax but scared to take it. I am 44. Hormones are said to be part of it, my daughter leaving for college. Those years when the Paxil worked were great. Thought I beat it. Guess I was wrong. We will find our way back. And while we do we can support each other. I am here and home if you ever want to talk I can email you my number. Having people that understand can help. My husband does not get it. I am so scared to change meds and add meds just like you
Posted 7/25/2013 11:53 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks all. I seriously considered admitting myself to the hospital just so I could feel some sort of relief from the panic. I had literally felt EXTREME panic and racy thoughts all day, and when the klonopin didn't work, I thought the worst case scenario is happening and meds are no longer going to help. It is now almost 7 and I feel somewhat calmer but I really was hoping the pill would at least let my body relax. I do not want to be hospitalized and I really need to get through this! My klonopin is only like a 0.25 strength. Would it be a bad thing to try another later? I took the 1st one at 1:30. Has anyone gone for long stretches with acute anxiety? Feel like I'm over asking but this is what I typically do for reassurance.
Posted 7/26/2013 12:30 AM (GMT 0)
I have. I am in the mist of it right now. Today I was just like you. Made it through and so did you. I would call your pharmacy and see if you can take more? Or your doctor first thing? Your bit alone. I am so right there also.
Posted 7/26/2013 3:01 AM (GMT 0)
Coopsmom- I have gone through long periods of acute anxiety. I understand what you're experiencing. It feels horrible-- believe me-- I know. Here's what you can do if the anxiety becomes unbearable: 1. Contact the on-call physician and explain that you need relief and that you are still experiencing chronic anxiety. He/she may prescibe additional meds.(That's what I did) 2. You can go to the ER. They can give you any number of shots to shut down the anxiety process. Keep in mind that the medication they give will only provide short-term relief, but that might hold you over until you contact your physician and find what medication works best for you. I hope that you soon find relief.

Ian
Posted 7/26/2013 1:10 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you all for your help! Ian I'm loving your encouragements!! I think the deal with me now, is that my fear is not really the panic itself, but that I will never respond to meds because I had used celexa for so long. I am now focused on that. I am however going to still try the zoloft, but my biggest fear(while I was doing well) was that my meds may stop working, yet I always remained happy and content to stay on them forever! Now that they have stopped, my true fears are coming out. I fear hospitilization, inability to bounce back from this etc... I worry about my boys, especially my sweet 4 year old. I feel somewhat rational in my head, but I cant seem to get my body to listen! The panic and anxiety symptoms start the moment I open my eyes, despite my deep breathing!! I have to do a makeup application today at work and I'm worried about that. If I could just get this anxiety to calm down, I could at least relax!!! Maybe the depression is kicking in too? I need to be positive!!! P.S I will call my gp and see if maybe the dose was too mild, and take .05 instead. Day by day sigh
Posted 7/26/2013 1:32 PM (GMT 0)
Be happy you can still drive and work. My relapse prevents me from doing those as I am afraid to be alone. Anxiety so bad today I had my husband stay home which he was no to happy about. But we overcame once and I know we will again. We will support each other, seek outside medical help and we will be better soon. Have a positive day and know we are here for you.

Dawn
Posted 7/26/2013 6:16 PM (GMT 0)
Coopsmom-- You share a very common fear--"What if the medication doesn't work?" Many of us in this forum (myself included) have asked the same question. Be assured, the medication will work!! The biggest challenge in managing panic disorder is the juggling act of not allowing your thoughts to influence physiological responses. It's difficult at times, but once the meds kick in, you soon realize that the panic response can be controlled. Hang in there. Talk to your doctor.
Posted 7/26/2013 6:40 PM (GMT 0)
Ian, have you had to switch meds on your journey? I did call my doctor and he said I could take the klonopin up to 4 times a day. I had a rough morning, but I am currently feeling somewhat better. My makeup client was very pleased and so am I. I still wish I could just stay on the celexa and be well, but I will do just about anything to have this disappear!! I really appreciate all of this support because I really need it!! Dawn, I sincerely hope that you will find peace with me!!
Posted 7/26/2013 8:37 PM (GMT 0)
Coopsmom- I did switch medications on my journey-- and I was afraid to do so. I began with a very old triclyclic anti-depressant called Tofranil. I took that medication for 13 years. I began developing grey-slated pigmentation on my face, a direct side-effect of long-term Tofranil use. Changing meds was scarey, but I made the transition. Once I realized that the new medication would work (Zoloft), I relaxed and felt better. I took Xanax for a short while, And I also took Klonopin. The Klonopin was too sedating for me. When my doctor added Atenolol, that did the trick. I no longer take Klonopin, nor have I needed it for years now. It stopped my anxiety--but boy did it pack a punch.

Continue to hold on to hope. Celexa is an SSRI, but there are many other drugs from the SSRI family that work very well for Panic Disorder and anxiety.

Again, be patient. I know that's hard to do when you're experiencing intense anxiety. I live a vitually panic free life, but it took some time to get there. I honestly believe that you will beat this. Good luck!
Posted 12/5/2015 1:47 AM (GMT 0)
Coopsmom- I am finding your lose now and it's been 2 years since you had a "poop out" with celexa. I was curious to know how things turned out for you? I am going through the same issue after 7 years of being happy on Lexapro.
Posted 12/6/2015 5:44 PM (GMT 0)
Hi there. Sorry I haven't responded sooner! I do check the forums on occasion.

I'm sorry to hear of your recent poop out on Lex. As you can see, I have had the same experience!

After a few med changes and a whole lot of wondering wether I'd ever be myself again, I am happy to say that I am feeling good again, but I must say that it's taken alot of work on my part to get here.

I had always thought that meds are the answer and that they will take it all away, but in reality, meds do work, but you also have to do some work to help the meds do their job.

I am currently on effexor xr and have been for over a year now. I did not experience a quick fix at all. I had to slowly increase my dosage to 225 and still had ups and downs. I would say that it took several months before i felt a sense of stability.

I began deepening my buddhist faith and would read quotes daily. I began yoga, I began taking omega 3 with vitamin d, and did alot of ocean breathing to quell the residual free floating anxiety.

I can now say that it is in my control, and i'm living my life with no restrictions.

One thing I cant stress enough is to have faith and patience! Throw away the beliefs that meds will work in 6 weeks!

That IMO is rubbish. Meds can take upwards of 12 weeks, and too many people quit them too soon before they can reap the benefits.

Also, instead of scaring yourself with internet stories, try googling sucess stories instead.

Do some sort of online or in office therepy.

Keep busy as much as you can! I found doing small meanial things would comfort me.

Don't lose faith please!!!!! I thought i would never ever feel good again, but here i am to say that you can and will get better, meds or no meds, this will pass.

Please stay focused on your health and wellbeing and do whatever it takes to get better, and trust in the wonderful people here on this forum!

They have helped me immensesly!!

Be well, Lisa

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