I see trails (or to call it a tiney light) following any moving object

Hei Clemxiii

I am still waiting for the letter from hospital to visit the cornea experts, I hate it when we have to wait for a long time to visit doctors .
Yes, in the mornings when I wake up my eyes are more sensitive, perhaps due to dryness of the eyes? I have to use eye-drops right after I wake up. And I agree that the trails are more visible right after I wake up. I even feel pain in the surface of my eyes when I wake up, the pain gets better by eye drops, however the trail things do not get better!
For the past few months I have had very difficult time during nights when it gets a bit darker. And the new issue that i have developed is that when I am watching TV in the evenings (when the light is dim), if I move my eyes to the dark wall beside the TV, I can still see the last TV screen for a second on the wall and then it disappears(it is not very visible scene, it is like a pop up mild vesion of the last screen)! It happens in other places as well, for example in the airplane when the light is dim, if I look at my light phone screen and then look at the front sit which is dark, I can see the mild screen of my phone for a sec then it disappear . I still hope that it is not something which is called Palinopsia! since I do not have many other things that people with palinopsia experience. my worse problems are the trails coming out of moving objects in dim/dark lighting and the screens that stay in my vision for a sec right after I move my eyes.
I have been searching a lot, it didnt much help! I just found an eye doctor on internet. I told him about these things and I asked him if he thinks it can be related to cornea! and he doubted it! he suggested me to take some vitamin A and Carotene supplements for a few weeks and see if it gets better. If in a few weeks it does not get better I have to stop the supplement since too much vitamin A can leads to toxity in body which is not good. So, I am trying this right now! And will wait for the letter from hospital as well.


Regards
Nana

clemxiii said...


Hope all is well, has there been any updates on your end?

I was doing a bit better last few weeks, but somehow I've become more focused on it yet again which of course makes it worse. I notice it's very bad right when waking up as well, like the extension coming off of my arm moving in air is way more apparent and longer in terms of the trail. Seems to be only right when waking up, which is odd.

Hei Clemxiii,

How are you doing? have you found something usefull? Whenever I get time I do a research around the trails in visions! but so far no luck! Do you have any updaye here?

Regards
Nana

clemxiii said...

Nana1988 said...
Hei Clemxiii,

How are you doing? have you found something usefull? Whenever I get time I do a research around the trails in visions! but so far no luck! Do you have any updaye here?

Regards
Nana

No updates here. Though, it doesn't bother me much anymore though it's there.

Honestly, my large amount of eye floaters are bothering me more. Can't enjoy outside or use PC without them all over the place. My biggest problem right now.

Do you have floaters as well?

Hei Clemxiii,

Happy to hear that you learned to deal with this. I am also trying to ignore the trails in my vision, and I have noticed that life is much more fun when I dont think about this and try to ignor it. I think we need to always remind ourselves that things could be even worse (but hopefully it is not). Now (after 1 year of searching) I think these trails are not something serious/dangerous in the brain, that is why no doctor knows about this and we do not have other seriouse symptoms as well in other parts of our body. And we just should learn to adap to this. Brain learns to live with this after a while.
Yes, I also have floaters, I guess these trails and floaters are kind of linked together (but many people have these floaters after age 20-30s, so this is something very common). My floaters started to appear right after the trails appeared in my vision, but today I have learned to ignore the floaters as well, they hardly bother me. Ignore them. And when working on computer try to change your eyes' focus eyery 10-15 minutes to some distance and blink firmly for 15-30 seconds.
To anyone reading this post later, I have had trails and floaters in my vision for a year now, with some headaches sometimes, and night vision issues. This was bothering me a lot in the begnings, but now I learned to live with this and am trying to ignore it. Have been at three different eye doctors, and they didnt find something seriouse, just a minor irregular astigmatism (this can be a reason for the trails). Another cause for this can be working a lot with computers and mobile phones. Another cause for this can be dry eyes, And there might be some other causes which seems to be not seriouse. So, if the doctors do not find something seriouse with you as well, just try to ignore it. Try two or three different expert doctors' opinion and if all say that it is not something seriouse, then stop searching for it (you will not find something). This is my experience. Try to live with it then if doctors say it is not serious.

Post Edited (Nana1988) : 7/10/2017 2:37:17 AM (GMT-6)

Nana1988 said...

clemxiii said...

Nana1988 said...
Hei Clemxiii,

How are you doing? have you found something usefull? Whenever I get time I do a research around the trails in visions! but so far no luck! Do you have any updaye here?

Regards
Nana

No updates here. Though, it doesn't bother me much anymore though it's there.

Honestly, my large amount of eye floaters are bothering me more. Can't enjoy outside or use PC without them all over the place. My biggest problem right now.

Do you have floaters as well?

Hei Clemxiii,

Happy to hear that you learned to deal with this. I am also trying to ignore the trails in my vision, and I have noticed that life is much more fun when I dont think about this and try to ignor it. I think we need to always remind ourselves that things could be even worse (but hopefully it is not). Now (after 1 year of searching) I think these trails are not something serious/dangerous in the brain, that is why no doctor knows about this and we do not have other seriouse symptoms as well in other parts of our body. And we just should learn to adap to this. Brain learns to live with this after a while.
Yes, I also have floaters, I guess these trails and floaters are kind of linked together (but many people have these floaters after age 20-30s, so this is something very common). My floaters started to appear right after the trails appeared in my vision, but today I have learned to ignore the floaters as well, they hardly bother me. Ignore them. And when working on computer try to change your eyes' focus eyery 10-15 minutes to some distance and blink firmly for 15-30 seconds.
To anyone reading this post later, I have had trails and floaters in my vision for a year now, with some headaches sometimes, and night vision issues. This was bothering me a lot in the begnings, but now I learned to live with this and am trying to ignore it. Have been at three different eye doctors, and they didnt find something seriouse, just a minor irregular astigmatism (this can be a reason for the trails). Another cause for this can be working a lot with computers and mobile phones. Another cause for this can be dry eyes, And there might be some other causes which seems to be not seriouse. So, if the doctors do not find something seriouse with you as well, just try to ignore it. Try two or three different expert doctors' opinion and if all say that it is not something seriouse, then stop searching for it (you will not find something). This is my experience. Try to live with it then if doctors say it is not serious.

I had floaters before the trailing, so not sure if connected. I still have an appointment with Neuro sometime this month so I'll still update you on what I find out. Could be simply a high order aberration and we're just extremely intuned to the fact it causes the trailing.

Sadly, the floaters have progressively got worse, and really isn't normal for people in their 20's to have have them to the point you don't even wan't to go outside or look at a computer screen. A few is normal, with progressive increase as you hit older ages, but mine are already extremely bad, which sucks. There comes a time when there's just too many to ignore and too centered in the central vision. I will sadly mostly likely be forced to look at surgery to remove the vitreous which isn't going to be fun. Infections, inflammation, vision loss or other retina like post-op visual issues are things that can happen. Sad that I feel like I have to chance that since the floaters are too bad. If I just had a handful like a year ago, I wouldn't care, but like anything, too much of it will finally break a person.

Really sucks. Anyways, glad you're feeling better with your mindset towards the trailing.

Hei Clemxiii,

Sorry for the late reply, just saw your comment. I totally understand your concern, my floaters are not that bad, I have 2-3 of them in my vision all the times since last year right after the trails, when I dont notice them I hardly see them, but sometimes I notice them more, true. If your floaters are too many and if you see new floaters from time to time, then you need to check them with doctor right. Yes true that most of the people have floaters after age 30, not 20. But always keep in mind that human bodies are very different from each other, like the fingerprints. But, yes you need to check them with a doctor to make sure they are normal. As soon as you found they are normal try to ignore them even if it is difficult (its pain yes but it is the only way to have a happier life).
I still feel like these eye problems are related to working a lot with computer screens and dry eyes, but not sure! I am thinking about changing my job to something with zero computer usage :D to see if it helps!
Okay, then please update me with the result of your Neuro test, looking forward to hear from you.
But keep in mind to not stress yourself meanwhile, try to see the good things in life... however I totally understand your concern.


Regards
Nana

clemxiii said...



So, nothing great from Neuro. He understood what I was describing and mentioned palinopsia, but he typically see's that from drugs or injury. He also mentioned ruling out a brain lesion of some sort. He doesn't really have a definitive answer, but wants an MRI to rule out a brain issue I mentioned in the last sentence.

I'm starting to personally think we're just hyper-aware of a natural occurring change in eye. Is your eye more egg/football shaped? If it is, my guess is we trailing from the high order abberation.

My father said something interesting to me, that in the office to a retina surgeon for his dad, he over heard an older woman talking about her surgery she had as she was in for a checkup. He asked for the heck of it, if she ever had trailing issues. To his surprise, she said "yes, I just one day noticed some type of minor trailing from my hands and other objects". She didn't think much of it, and never focused on it. I think to her, it was just "normal" and not a problem. But here is a random person that seemed to of have it. Perhaps this could just be part of eye changes like high order abberations.

Anyways, I will keep you updated as I will now be going to new doctors to possibly get an FoV surgery to remove the floaters, and I will definitely ask about the trailing too. Never know, one of them may know the reasoning for this issue!

Hei Clemxiii

I think you have visited a professional doctor since he knew about Palinopsia. You need to know that Palinopsia is not a disease, it is a term for å condition like Headache. Since we both are not a drug user, the season can be our eye shape as you said. I think my eye has too much curve, that is why the light is reflected wrongly!
Please keep me updated. I have done MRI last year with no problem.


Nana

Hei FixerClub,

In one of your comments in another thread I saw that you mentioned something about using Marijuana!!! perhaps that is the reason for your visual snow! if that is true, simply and quickly stop using that. Or, I am not sure if you have got any chemical into your eyes at school! please check this with a doctor.
but both me and Clemiiix ,we have never used any drug! I do not think that I have visual snow problem, I mean I do not have cloudy or blurry vision! My vision is perfect and I can see almost anything even from very far distances. My biggest problem is trails/ghost following moving objects in dim light. I guess my eye problem is related to the changes in my internal eyes shape (not sure yet), I need to check it with more doctors, I am still waiting to visit my next doctor which is going to check my eye cornea.


Regards
Nana

FixerClub said...
Hey I seem to have similar problems such as the snowy like vision in the dark nut it's more like black snow the trails your talking about seem familiar also it's only when the sun is hiding in a dark room though or at night but not as bad I also get these little lights that pop up out of knowhere which I have gotten used too and I will explain why I feel like I might have these bizarre issues it all started back in my 9th grade I was kinda freaked out at the fact of losing vision because of chemicals in the graphics room fast forward weeks ahead I felt as if I couldn't feel my eyes which freaked me out and I do have anxiety which made it worse I had an eye doctor appointment and nope nothing after that it was small things like vision was cloudy and it got really bright in some rooms but that ended fast forward months later in June I had an aura which freaked me more than I have ever been that's when it all started after that day I had little lights appear the trigger seemed to be when getting up after sitting and I would have pressure sometimes. It seemed to progress worse and worse as time went on six months later I had another aura and this changed me mentally after that it seemed like that snowy like stuff which eventually got better but is it just my mind playing tricks on me or is there a problem I like to think there isn't but I call myself ignorant for saying that and then I wondered if it has always been there and I'm always just expecting to see something in the sky or in the dark I don't know have you guys experienced this.

Post Edited (Nana1988) : 8/21/2017 6:13:58 AM (GMT-6)

Nana1988 said...

clemxiii said...


So, nothing great from Neuro. He understood what I was describing and mentioned palinopsia, but he typically see's that from drugs or injury. He also mentioned ruling out a brain lesion of some sort. He doesn't really have a definitive answer, but wants an MRI to rule out a brain issue I mentioned in the last sentence.

I'm starting to personally think we're just hyper-aware of a natural occurring change in eye. Is your eye more egg/football shaped? If it is, my guess is we trailing from the high order abberation.

My father said something interesting to me, that in the office to a retina surgeon for his dad, he over heard an older woman talking about her surgery she had as she was in for a checkup. He asked for the heck of it, if she ever had trailing issues. To his surprise, she said "yes, I just one day noticed some type of minor trailing from my hands and other objects". She didn't think much of it, and never focused on it. I think to her, it was just "normal" and not a problem. But here is a random person that seemed to of have it. Perhaps this could just be part of eye changes like high order abberations.

Anyways, I will keep you updated as I will now be going to new doctors to possibly get an FoV surgery to remove the floaters, and I will definitely ask about the trailing too. Never know, one of them may know the reasoning for this issue!

Hei Clemxiii

Did you get the MRI ? Any update from you? I got the letter from hospital and have appointment in 6 weeks to check the cornea by the cornea experts at the hospital.


Regards
Nana

Hi Nana,

Not yet. Fighting insurance right now over MRI. I expect it will be 100% fine though.

I really am hoping to find a doctor that can say, "Yes I think you have a certain high order aberration that can cause this trailing".

It's been bugging me a bit lately, as when I notice it I get this uneasy feeling that the movement feels off and not natural. Sometimes I notice it more than others.

I really wish I could find someone knowledgeable on high order aberrations and how lens is shaped, or eye and how that can affect visual symptoms.

I find it weird that when I track the movement with my eye I never see it. Only when it's in the non-focused part. Which is baffling to me.

Nana1988 said...

clemxiii said...


Hi Nana,

Not yet. Fighting insurance right now over MRI. I expect it will be 100% fine though.

I really am hoping to find a doctor that can say, "Yes I think you have a certain high order aberration that can cause this trailing".

It's been bugging me a bit lately, as when I notice it I get this uneasy feeling that the movement feels off and not natural. Sometimes I notice it more than others.

I really wish I could find someone knowledgeable on high order aberrations and how lens is shaped, or eye and how that can affect visual symptoms.

I find it weird that when I track the movement with my eye I never see it. Only when it's in the non-focused part. Which is baffling to me.

Hei Clemxiii

Yes perhaps your MRI would be clean the same as mine, but good to get it done.
I have the same exact issue and concern about the ghost/trails following the moving abjects, only when i am not following the motion with eyes! However soon i have a visit with experts in cornea and probably they know about abrerration and it's effect on the vision. I will let you know about what they say. Yes, the less attention to it is the best strategy until we find out the reason. Will let you know.

Regards

Thanks Nana,

Wish you all the best and I hope they can confirm high order abberation as the cause. Perhaps too, we're very more hyperaware of it, and once we've seen it it's hard to forget it too?

What I find odd, is the last couple days I've started to notice it more. So, I'm a little concerned as I don't know if it's worse, as in a longer trail, or just I'm more focused on it and seeing it. I've been very stressed the last few days too, which makes me wonder if that is somehow the reason (perhaps my stress/anxiety then is causing me to be more aware).

I wonder if we got glasses that were set up to fix these high order abberations, would that solve the problem and then also tell us, it's definitely an eye issue not a brain issue.

clemxiii said...
Just wanted to update that although no progress in the trailing, I'm also having a harder time ignoring what ever it is I see in low lighting. I hate to say it's Visual Snow, but perhaps it is. It's almost like a faint translucent shimmering overlaying things I look at if the lighting is mild/dim.

Had it for years, but for some reason it's really appearing more strong lately. I don't know if it's normal to see a little "noise" or "static" I guess at night and perhaps I'm overly analyzing it, but it's definitely worse than the trailing right now.

Hi Clemxiii

I have a lot of disturbing noises in my vision too, but I cannot call it like the visual snow which I have seen some photoes of it on internet. Beside the trail which follows motions in dim light, I have noises in my vision mostly similar to narrow lines of light into my vision from different angels (like star bursting). It is very difficult to discribe it, but mine is not like visual snow..., and these noises in my vision all appeared after the trails around 1.5 years ago. I never had these in vision before that.

Try to blink a lot apecially when you are on computer/phone and sleep enough.
Will keep you updated about anything from the doctors.


Regards
Nana

Hello,

Sorry you are experiencing this. Did you by chance start a new medication for something in the last 8 months? Side effects from meds can range widely.

I've had this happen with ocular migraines from stress in the past. Very weird, scary trailing lights, and if it got really bad loss of peripheral vision. Well worth talking to your family doctor, they can help with this. Since your eye doc said everything is ok, some like to just pass the buck along to another doctor. Sad, but true.
Good luck....hang in there.

Hello Nana1988 and Clemxiii, I made an account just to say that I have been having the same thing! I can't really find any answers online, but then I saw your thread about this.

For me, it started (or at least I began to notice them) last month. It's a similar story: dim room, moving arm, slight translucent trail playing catch up. Since then I have been able to see it when the lighting is just right. I think it's also present when the light is bright, it's just less noticeable. This is causing me major anxiety because I have health anxiety to begin with. I haven't gone to the eye doctor because I'm very scared but I know I will have to at some point. My trail, like yours, also noticable in my side vision or when Im not looking directly at my arm.

I can't even explain this thing I'm experiencing. Not really a trail, more like a delayed transparant illuminated shadow? Sometimes the trail is more apparent than most days, sometimes longer etc. maybe it depends on the lighting or how tired my eyes are.

I wear glasses but I do think I will have to adjust my prescriptions. I don't know if it matters or not, but for a long time I kinda neglected wearing them. My left eye was fine, it was my right one that was nearsighted. My doc told me back then if I didn't wear the glasses I might be left with a squint because the good eye was doing all of the work. I read online a squint could cause double vision (what we have isn't exactly that though). Or perhaps it's as simple as dry eyes, since my eyes are dry. I have to say I am on my computer a LOT though, and on my phone too which probably isn't helping but I don't know if it's the cause.

Browsing online, I seem to find multiple cases similar to ours but they all are stumped as to what's causing it. Or it's been years but they didn't come back to update about what was going on. I don't know if if's a case of Palinopsia too.

Yeah, just wanted to put it out there. It'll be nice to be able to talk with people who are experiencing the same thing.

Hi Nana, thanks for replying! It feels good and reassuring to be talking to someone who understands.

Seems like we have several things in common. I also have vitamin D deficiency! I've been taking supplements for it for the past year and a half (although I admittedly have days when I would forget to). Now I wonder if there's link to this weird eye problem because I read many people have vit D deficiency, they just don't know about it because it's not something that people would check out.

I'll try to make an eye doctor appointment soon, maybe next week if I can get in, and I'll be sure to update here again!